You can not generalize ... it depends a lot on each one, from his point of view ...
In these times, for example, if one has invested in photovoltaic panels or even another regenerative energy source (water, wind) ... the return with direct energy sales is even lower. So this is the last chance to consume it with the mining to earn more, compared to direct selling ... where they give a poor value of 2-3 cents per kw ...
Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 - page 147. (Read 299754 times)
October 04, 2017, 03:52:04 AM
October 03, 2017, 11:54:12 PM
Video recap on my recent earnings and not so positive projections on the future of x11 mining O_o /for anyone interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNBZzuBcfMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNBZzuBcfMk
You raise some fair points in the video regarding cost vs. return. Good luck with your sale I would take it off your hands but at this point buying a d3 is like playing Russian roulette with 2 bullets in the chamber and gets worse each batch. The L3+ was solid but this machine thus far is not a good investment nor would I advise anyone to purchase unless you really like gambling.
October 03, 2017, 11:21:02 PM
Video recap on my recent earnings and not so positive projections on the future of x11 mining O_o /for anyone interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNBZzuBcfMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNBZzuBcfMk
October 03, 2017, 10:19:36 PM
sorry to hear that man :/ I know that has to be incredibly frustrating
Places like PayPal are why cryptocurrencies like BTC can go far.
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October 03, 2017, 10:18:28 PM
mining on nicehash seems to be a good option right now
Why do you say that? I'll kick mine over to see
https://www.nicehash.com/miner/1ADjxn4jCV91izZJJtTR62UPfjw1PtsAZF
October 03, 2017, 10:17:07 PM
You not afraid to sell on eBay? I read stories about people returning miners after mining for a few months.
After months they can't. I had an asshole trying to return an L3+ 65 days after receiving it. Even though I clearly stated no returns due to the nature of the product. He cannot do anything after 60 days because he can't even leave any feedback after that. It's still a bit scary though if someone tries it after a month.
I have had an S9 returned right after the buyer received it. Bitched that it was too noisy, he returned it, I checked it out (it was all OK) and resold it. I also make little marks on the hash boards and take pictures of everything in case they try swapping boards.
So if you state "no returns" can eBay still force you to take it back?
This answer kind of varies, the correct answer is no .. but some people get scammed (sellers) unfortunately
Actually the answer is yes they can force you to take it back as long as the buyer is smart enough to figure out how to be a scumbag
sorry to hear that man :/ I know that has to be incredibly frustrating
October 03, 2017, 10:15:47 PM
mining on nicehash seems to be a good option right now
October 03, 2017, 10:09:18 PM
Yea i just got screwed by paypal i sold a baikal giant+ the guy used it for 2+ weeks then on sept 23 ironically when the dash difficulty went up he claimed it was not working he opened a case on ebay and i won because he admitted it was working when he recwived it. Then he opened a case on paypal i sent paypal the screenshots of him admitting it worked when he received it and he told paypal it was not working when he received it he straight up lied! And paypal said that the screenshot of him admitting it worked when he received it is not proof!!! This guy is a lying piece of shit! Im so pissed about it!!
Did you ask him why waited 2 weeks + then return?
Yea he said it was broken i told him it still had a 30 day warranty with baikal and he said he didnt want to "deal" with china and now it is my problem. He originally wanted to pick the miner up in person and pay me with paypal (then claim item mot received i assume) told him he could pay cash and pick it up but he refused hes basically just a scam artist POS
Do you mind posting his ebay's username so we could avoid/black list him in future? thanks
They will probably just open a new account unfortunately.
Dont worry ill post his name and fb acct as well fuck this guy I really cant believe it people are such dirtbags
October 03, 2017, 10:07:08 PM
Yea i just got screwed by paypal i sold a baikal giant+ the guy used it for 2+ weeks then on sept 23 ironically when the dash difficulty went up he claimed it was not working he opened a case on ebay and i won because he admitted it was working when he recwived it. Then he opened a case on paypal i sent paypal the screenshots of him admitting it worked when he received it and he told paypal it was not working when he received it he straight up lied! And paypal said that the screenshot of him admitting it worked when he received it is not proof!!! This guy is a lying piece of shit! Im so pissed about it!!
Did you ask him why waited 2 weeks + then return?
Yea he said it was broken i told him it still had a 30 day warranty with baikal and he said he didnt want to "deal" with china and now it is my problem. He originally wanted to pick the miner up in person and pay me with paypal (then claim item mot received i assume) told him he could pay cash and pick it up but he refused hes basically just a scam artist POS
Do you mind posting his ebay's username so we could avoid/black list him in future? thanks
They will probably just open a new account unfortunately.
October 03, 2017, 10:01:54 PM
Yea i just got screwed by paypal i sold a baikal giant+ the guy used it for 2+ weeks then on sept 23 ironically when the dash difficulty went up he claimed it was not working he opened a case on ebay and i won because he admitted it was working when he recwived it. Then he opened a case on paypal i sent paypal the screenshots of him admitting it worked when he received it and he told paypal it was not working when he received it he straight up lied! And paypal said that the screenshot of him admitting it worked when he received it is not proof!!! This guy is a lying piece of shit! Im so pissed about it!!
Did you ask him why waited 2 weeks + then return?
Yea he said it was broken i told him it still had a 30 day warranty with baikal and he said he didnt want to "deal" with china and now it is my problem. He originally wanted to pick the miner up in person and pay me with paypal (then claim item mot received i assume) told him he could pay cash and pick it up but he refused hes basically just a scam artist POS
Do you mind posting his ebay's username so we could avoid/black list him in future? thanks
Yes i will once the case is over with he has 10 days to return it and if he doesnt i win the case crossing my fingers on this! But im so pissed off today
October 03, 2017, 10:01:02 PM
Maybe almost every pre paid miner that people are waiting for to be delivered is mining right now, hence the difficulty increase more then expected not saying all but some would definitely be doing this to milk maximum profit before shipping. If this is true it may be a good thing as future batch shipments won't impact the difficulty as much. Also new x11 coins like helium will hopefully spread the hash rate around. Maybe digibyte will add x11 to its list of supported algos , who knows. It's still possible that some people may regret selling their d3s too soon or selling them now at ever decreasing prices. The evolution dash updates due soon, that should help with the dash price.
October 03, 2017, 09:59:14 PM
Yea i just got screwed by paypal i sold a baikal giant+ the guy used it for 2+ weeks then on sept 23 ironically when the dash difficulty went up he claimed it was not working he opened a case on ebay and i won because he admitted it was working when he recwived it. Then he opened a case on paypal i sent paypal the screenshots of him admitting it worked when he received it and he told paypal it was not working when he received it he straight up lied! And paypal said that the screenshot of him admitting it worked when he received it is not proof!!! This guy is a lying piece of shit! Im so pissed about it!!
Did you ask him why waited 2 weeks + then return?
Yea he said it was broken i told him it still had a 30 day warranty with baikal and he said he didnt want to "deal" with china and now it is my problem. He originally wanted to pick the miner up in person and pay me with paypal (then claim item mot received i assume) told him he could pay cash and pick it up but he refused hes basically just a scam artist POS
Do you mind posting his ebay's username so we could avoid/black list him in future? thanks
October 03, 2017, 09:57:36 PM
Yea i just got screwed by paypal i sold a baikal giant+ the guy used it for 2+ weeks then on sept 23 ironically when the dash difficulty went up he claimed it was not working he opened a case on ebay and i won because he admitted it was working when he recwived it. Then he opened a case on paypal i sent paypal the screenshots of him admitting it worked when he received it and he told paypal it was not working when he received it he straight up lied! And paypal said that the screenshot of him admitting it worked when he received it is not proof!!! This guy is a lying piece of shit! Im so pissed about it!!
Did you ask him why waited 2 weeks + then return?
Yea he said it was broken i told him it still had a 30 day warranty with baikal and he said he didnt want to "deal" with china and now it is my problem. He originally wanted to pick the miner up in person and pay me with paypal (then claim item mot received i assume) told him he could pay cash and pick it up but he refused hes basically just a scam artist POS
October 03, 2017, 09:43:59 PM
Yea i just got screwed by paypal i sold a baikal giant+ the guy used it for 2+ weeks then on sept 23 ironically when the dash difficulty went up he claimed it was not working he opened a case on ebay and i won because he admitted it was working when he recwived it. Then he opened a case on paypal i sent paypal the screenshots of him admitting it worked when he received it and he told paypal it was not working when he received it he straight up lied! And paypal said that the screenshot of him admitting it worked when he received it is not proof!!! This guy is a lying piece of shit! Im so pissed about it!!
Did you ask him why waited 2 weeks + then return?
October 03, 2017, 09:41:56 PM
You not afraid to sell on eBay? I read stories about people returning miners after mining for a few months.
After months they can't. I had an asshole trying to return an L3+ 65 days after receiving it. Even though I clearly stated no returns due to the nature of the product. He cannot do anything after 60 days because he can't even leave any feedback after that. It's still a bit scary though if someone tries it after a month.
I have had an S9 returned right after the buyer received it. Bitched that it was too noisy, he returned it, I checked it out (it was all OK) and resold it. I also make little marks on the hash boards and take pictures of everything in case they try swapping boards.
So if you state "no returns" can eBay still force you to take it back?
This answer kind of varies, the correct answer is no .. but some people get scammed (sellers) unfortunately
Actually the answer is yes they can force you to take it back as long as the buyer is smart enough to figure out how to be a scumbag
October 03, 2017, 09:39:35 PM
Yea i just got screwed by paypal i sold a baikal giant+ the guy used it for 2+ weeks then on sept 23 ironically when the dash difficulty went up he claimed it was not working he opened a case on ebay and i won because he admitted it was working when he recwived it. Then he opened a case on paypal i sent paypal the screenshots of him admitting it worked when he received it and he told paypal it was not working when he received it he straight up lied! And paypal said that the screenshot of him admitting it worked when he received it is not proof!!! This guy is a lying piece of shit! Im so pissed about it!!
October 03, 2017, 08:52:20 PM
You not afraid to sell on eBay? I read stories about people returning miners after mining for a few months.
After months they can't. I had an asshole trying to return an L3+ 65 days after receiving it. Even though I clearly stated no returns due to the nature of the product. He cannot do anything after 60 days because he can't even leave any feedback after that. It's still a bit scary though if someone tries it after a month.
I have had an S9 returned right after the buyer received it. Bitched that it was too noisy, he returned it, I checked it out (it was all OK) and resold it. I also make little marks on the hash boards and take pictures of everything in case they try swapping boards.
So if you state "no returns" can eBay still force you to take it back?
This answer kind of varies, the correct answer is no .. but some people get scammed (sellers) unfortunately
October 03, 2017, 08:50:10 PM
I've decided to sell my D3, my GF is keeping hers
If anyone's interested
Would prefer to deal with BTCtalk members but it's also on eBay w/ 24 hours as I imagine that is the best market to sell these in currently
http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/112587969996?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/d3-sold-2234463
If anyone's interested
Would prefer to deal with BTCtalk members but it's also on eBay w/ 24 hours as I imagine that is the best market to sell these in currently
http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/112587969996?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/d3-sold-2234463
You not afraid to sell on eBay? I read stories about people returning miners after mining for a few months.
October 03, 2017, 05:36:54 PM
About Bitmain, they are leade in the crypto market hardware. I can not record they put a non ROI product on the market. There derive statistics are very close to reality. It looks they mis out on x11, but we have not the statics (like algoritme, pretty scarry for me neo 
). X11 will make ROI also i think beside the danger of 10nm closing in.
). X11 will make ROI also i think beside the danger of 10nm closing in. October 03, 2017, 05:26:22 PM
Hello guys, i have november 4 pieces to sell. if you are interested i would gladly put them on ebay or amazon and give you price without any additional costs and sell it for price that i have got them. I just need to get my investment off some pieces that i have ordered. If anyone is interested i am able to show bitmain paid order and my september batch pictures to credible my offer as you don't know me well yet.
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