Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018 - page 12.

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Quote from: ConnerM on December 12, 2018, 12:52:10 PM

Has anyone seen any detailed specs on the S15's PSU? 127/220 is a common industrial voltage output from 3 phase service in many parts of the world, but we run our farm on US 3 Phase WYE service which gives us native 208v. It's doesn't appear that the new BitMain gear is being designed for the US market, but I'm thinking perhaps the input voltage specs may actually be a little more flexible than what's being shown.

Any who, reworking the farms supply panel or adding boosters for this gear would make it cost prohibitive, as if it isn't already. Wink

I imagine it should work 208V, best efficiency will be on 220v from what I understand. Maybe some one more knowledgeable will chime in shortly.

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Has anyone seen any detailed specs on the S15's PSU? 127/220 is a common industrial voltage output from 3 phase service in many parts of the world, but we run our farm on US 3 Phase WYE service which gives us native 208v. It's doesn't appear that the new BitMain gear is being designed for the US market, but I'm thinking perhaps the input voltage specs may actually be a little more flexible than what's being shown.

Any who, reworking the farms supply panel or adding boosters for this gear would make it cost prohibitive, as if it isn't already. Wink

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 11, 2018, 07:54:02 AM

65 dollar coupons

and Know your customer is in effect.

I do not want my passport info in their hands.

Yea, reason I don't shop personally with huge companies as much as possible. Anything I need I just ask them here to get it for me. We have some buyers who pay more in shipping just so the deliveries are routed through us and not directly to them. Even a little buffer goes I a long way I suppose.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 11, 2018, 07:54:02 AM

65 dollar coupons

and Know your customer is in effect.

I do not want my passport info in their hands.

Was hoping for $230 coupons given that's the max they can accept for the DR5 and S11.

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Quote from: Exoskeleton on December 11, 2018, 07:38:47 AM

Did any of you guys get a coupon? If so for how much? Are they still transferable?

Im curious because I didn't order anything from this last batch I wouldn't know.

If the coupon was good enough I might consider a few S15 or T15 miners I guess.

Are they still grilling you for your personal info just to place an order?

65 dollar coupons

and Know your customer is in effect.

I do not want my passport info in their hands.

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Did any of you guys get a coupon? If so for how much? Are they still transferable?

Im curious because I didn't order anything from this last batch I wouldn't know.

If the coupon was good enough I might consider a few S15 or T15 miners I guess.

Are they still grilling you for your personal info just to place an order?

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Quote from: VRobb on December 10, 2018, 03:44:51 PM

Email I got listed the new price as $1402, not $1204... Huh

$1204 on the website

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Quote from: stompix on December 10, 2018, 03:07:35 PM

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020181210184613385gc3S2eKL0674

So we're down from 1475$ to 1204$ for the January batch...and lost one TH Huh

on the way also but same power 1596W and same 57J/TH.
Still over a year to ROI at 4c/kwh.

Email I got listed the new price as $1402, not $1204... Huh

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https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020181210184613385gc3S2eKL0674

So we're down from 1475$ to 1204$ for the January batch...and lost one TH Huh

on the way also but same power 1596W and same 57J/TH.
Still over a year to ROI at 4c/kwh.

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Quote from: betajuice on November 20, 2018, 08:58:42 PM

Is there a way to order a larger amount of the S15's ? From Bitmain's site, they are limiting 2 per order. Are there third party suppliers that will sell them in bulk?

Contact our site, we should be able to get a quote.

Quote from: DaCryptoRaccoon on November 17, 2018, 05:49:58 AM

From what I hear they had issues with the chips and wafers so this is good advice unless you enjoy looking at a machine while parts are away for repair or replace.

I might budget to include units for possible repair. Maybe order an extra or two to swap pending your farm.

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Is there a way to order a larger amount of the S15's ? From Bitmain's site, they are limiting 2 per order. Are there third party suppliers that will sell them in bulk?

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Quote from: sidehack on November 15, 2018, 09:31:42 AM

Don't forget how much money you'll have to put into maintenance and repairs to keep it running at spec for that whole time. Bitmain gear isn't built to last for two years.

From what I hear they had issues with the chips and wafers so this is good advice unless you enjoy looking at a machine while parts are away for repair or replace.

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They tend, from what I've seen and many other reports, to have a lot more issues with "infant mortality" than death over time - like most electronic gear, especially when it's pushing a heavy load.

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Quote from: sidehack on November 15, 2018, 09:31:42 AM

Don't forget how much money you'll have to put into maintenance and repairs to keep it running at spec for that whole time. Bitmain gear isn't built to last for two years.

This. As someone who has been running Bitmain gear from the beginning I can say for certain that their gear fails over time. I've had hashboards, control units, fans, etc all go bad in no time.

I think a lot of people like to forget and overlook how much maintenance and failures add to the cost of a miner. Add to that the inevitable downtime when things go wrong and you end up pushing the ROI out much, much further than what is perfect on paper. We used to have more room in the margins for these added costs. Not so much now. At least when it comes to mining BTC. Its slowly becoming a fools game that only benefits the ASIC makers.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on November 15, 2018, 02:57:03 AM

What apology?
I was explaining why your comment was not only wrong but rude.

It wasn't wrong, nor was it rude. I accept your apology.

Quote from: stompix on November 15, 2018, 06:50:32 AM

Your plan is nice on paper, mine long time, but unfortunately right now if we assume a flat price and over 7 cents per kwh you're not going to ROI before the halving Grin

Of course, prices might go up but at that point just buy directly BTC.

The s15 might be efficient but it has a price tag that is dragging it down and this is not a normal industry, I doubt there is something out there where you have to plan a halving in global markets every 4 years.

With an s9 you're going to ROI faster and start making a profit faster, the s15 is indeed for the long run but it might take way too much time to make some bucks on it.

Slash the price at least 25% and yeah, it looks attractive but at its current price...nope. Just no!

No, you're wrong! WRONG WRONG WRONG! lol

S15 is way overpriced...in total agreement with what you're cookin'

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Don't forget how much money you'll have to put into maintenance and repairs to keep it running at spec for that whole time. Bitmain gear isn't built to last for two years.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on November 15, 2018, 02:57:03 AM

There is no new "more efficient" node anticipated to BUILD miners on for years.
Is that hard for you to understand?

In fact, there is some question how much longer semiconductor node CAN continue to progress - GMO's over-optimistic projections to the contrary.
Intel and IBM in particular have both stated that "pure silicon" has reached the end of the road - IBM's current "next gen" process design work uses a MIXED silicon/germanium die while Intel has been quite mum on their plans for anything past their current 10nm node.

The old "new miner model every 6 months" routine died when ASIC mining hardware caught up with semiconductor state-of-the-art at the 14nm node (S9 and such), and CAN'T ever return.

Your plan is nice on paper, mine long time, but unfortunately right now if we assume a flat price and over 7 cents per kwh you're not going to ROI before the halving Grin

Of course, prices might go up but at that point just buy directly BTC.

The s15 might be efficient but it has a price tag that is dragging it down and this is not a normal industry, I doubt there is something out there where you have to plan a halving in global markets every 4 years.

With an s9 you're going to ROI faster and start making a profit faster, the s15 is indeed for the long run but it might take way too much time to make some bucks on it.

Slash the price at least 25% and yeah, it looks attractive but at its current price...nope. Just no!

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Quote from: rifleman74 on November 14, 2018, 04:23:31 PM

Thank you for your apology.

What apology?
I was explaining why your comment was not only wrong but rude.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on November 14, 2018, 04:19:13 PM

There is no new "more efficient" node anticipated to BUILD miners on for years.
Is that hard for you to understand?

In fact, there is some question how much longer semiconductor node CAN continue to progress - GMO's over-optimistic projections to the contrary.
Intel and IBM in particular have both stated that "pure silicon" has reached the end of the road - IBM's current "next gen" process design work uses a MIXED silicon/germanium die while Intel has been quite mum on their plans for anything past their current 10nm node.

The old "new miner model every 6 months" routine died when ASIC mining hardware caught up with semiconductor state-of-the-art at the 14nm node (S9 and such), and CAN'T ever return.

Thank you for your apology.

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