Topic: Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018 - page 14. (Read 31485 times)
I wouldn't spend crypto on it. Blokforge has them available with credit card and total is about the same you'd pay ordering from Bitmain after tariff and shipping if you're in the U.S. Pricing is better than anything else on the market and I don't see price dropping unless Innosilicon, Canaan, or another manufacturer engages in a price war.
Wow.....the price really killed it, I cancelled my pre-order. Most of the orders now are from resellers.
most of these S15 and T15 are going to be on the ebay soon.
Its a good step to the next level for Bitmain but not very profitable models and shipping is going to happen on a month from now.
ROI is from 10+ month to never
Its a good step to the next level for Bitmain but not very profitable models and shipping is going to happen on a month from now.
ROI is from 10+ month to never
Also this is technically third batch dates from the Chinese site releases I believe.
Waste of money, $2.42 a day... 
most of these S15 and T15 are going to be on the ebay soon.
Its a good step to the next level for Bitmain but not very profitable models and shipping is going to happen on a month from now.
ROI is from 10+ month to never
Its a good step to the next level for Bitmain but not very profitable models and shipping is going to happen on a month from now.
ROI is from 10+ month to never
Pricing on it is up but still no hard specs or delivery date. $1,475.00
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020181107195820131prWuuVTy0738
Estimated specs here
Also checkout point-8 in their description re duty and tariff.
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020181107195820131prWuuVTy0738
Estimated specs here
Also checkout point-8 in their description re duty and tariff.
Spec wise we're probably looking at 28-30th/s at 1500ish draw. Looking at market could see a price range from $1.2k-2.2k. Most likely on the low end to compete with the T25.
Also the added tariff is 25%, for a total of 27.6% duty to the US.
Also the added tariff is 25%, for a total of 27.6% duty to the US.
I guess I was pretty close to.
Pricing looks ok.
On the cn web the t15 batch 1 sold out. Second batch is more expensive?
You... I guess they nailed it lol.
Missed that post, as it would have been so much easier to just quote and say he nailed it with a link. Nice when at the end you can trust a good source.
Missed that post, as it would have been so much easier to just quote and say he nailed it with a link. Nice when at the end you can trust a good source.
my motto was to share as I no longer do mining for myself(except heating my greenhouse up) but for my clients only
my source was right
You... I guess they nailed it lol.
Missed that post, as it would have been so much easier to just quote and say he nailed it with a link. Nice when at the end you can trust a good source.
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Yeah the S model numbers look awesome. They are definitely trying to regain the king of the mountain spot with efficiency. The price will be interesting. Depending on what rumors to believe are they going to try and grab as much Bcash/Fiat as possible quickly. Do they look to maximize profit, not worry about how fast the product moves(probably not an issue with the specs).
I updated that post as well, once I saw what looked like Delivery between Dec 1 - 10. Only being 3 to 4 weeks out is better than I thought. I expected end of Dec/early Jan.
That removes any opportunity for board-level tuning, as now the entire miner has to ride the required voltage for the weakest single chip, and it also removes the option to ever replace your power supply with something other than their specific build (so you're over a barrel, warranty-wise).
This has always been my worry about buying a unit/PSU combo. Now you've given me a logical reason for that. Obviously without a closer look we don't know if that's for sure the case, but I don't have a decent option to warranty with them. So losing the unit over a dead PSU, would be a piss off.
Do I see a control line going into the power supply? I've been wondering for a while, what with all these miners now coming with power supplies built in, if they might be dropping the board-level string regulator and tightening control on the mains supply instead. That removes any opportunity for board-level tuning, as now the entire miner has to ride the required voltage for the weakest single chip, and it also removes the option to ever replace your power supply with something other than their specific build (so you're over a barrel, warranty-wise). If they're binning chips pretty specifically imbalances can be minimized and you end up with around a 3-6% efficiency gain and slightly reduced BOM. That binning might be why they're rolling out both a low-spec and high-spec model at the same time.
Looks like they may also be slacking on the density a bit, or at least starting to shorten the air path which keeps the rearmost chips from getting overcooked. That's a good sign, and a lesson that should have been learned from Spondoolies rack gear in 2014.
Looks like they may also be slacking on the density a bit, or at least starting to shorten the air path which keeps the rearmost chips from getting overcooked. That's a good sign, and a lesson that should have been learned from Spondoolies rack gear in 2014.
I wonder how long they have been mining with this devices, I also know about S11 and T11 which never exposed to public and I've seen the prototypes 2-3 month ago.
Dec shipping isn't that bad and now I'm guessing what will happen.
Oh and as I know first batch quantity will be limited to max
Dec shipping isn't that bad and now I'm guessing what will happen.
Oh and as I know first batch quantity will be limited to max
So a dec 1 to dec 12 ship date.
That is not too bad.
And a 50 watt per th
That is good.
That is not too bad.
And a 50 watt per th
That is good.
my source was right
So they have updates the sales option on the chinese site.
I checked it out and translated just to get there. Here are their numbers
S15
28 TH/S +/-2% @ 1596W +/- 7% states 50 J/TH
Efficiency Mode - I think can't confirm as I can only read the numbers but it still looks like there is only 1 machine option
17 TH/S +/- 2% @ 850W +/- 7% states 57 J/TH
*Updating *
T15
23 TH/S +/-2% @ 1541W +/- 7% States 67 J/TH
Efficiency Mode - I think can't confirm as I can only read the numbers but it still looks like there is only 1 machine option
20 TH/S +/- 2% @ 1200W +/- 7% States 60 J/TH
Both include the PSU and have max order quantities 2 for the S and 5 for the T
I belive they are also stating delivery between December 1 - 10. Might just be for China. There may be a price in there as well, but the format it translated to looks funky so I'll leave that out.
Sorry I did not follow your links, as they looked odd to me. I went here by going to their site and then flipping to the China option.
https://shop.bitmain.com.cn/
I checked it out and translated just to get there. Here are their numbers
S15
28 TH/S +/-2% @ 1596W +/- 7% states 50 J/TH
Efficiency Mode - I think can't confirm as I can only read the numbers but it still looks like there is only 1 machine option
17 TH/S +/- 2% @ 850W +/- 7% states 57 J/TH
*Updating *
T15
23 TH/S +/-2% @ 1541W +/- 7% States 67 J/TH
Efficiency Mode - I think can't confirm as I can only read the numbers but it still looks like there is only 1 machine option
20 TH/S +/- 2% @ 1200W +/- 7% States 60 J/TH
Both include the PSU and have max order quantities 2 for the S and 5 for the T
I belive they are also stating delivery between December 1 - 10. Might just be for China. There may be a price in there as well, but the format it translated to looks funky so I'll leave that out.
Official Info regarding S15 and T15 from the Chinese Bitmain site
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Sorry I did not follow your links, as they looked odd to me. I went here by going to their site and then flipping to the China option.
https://shop.bitmain.com.cn/
Official Info regarding S15 and T15 from the Chinese Bitmain site
https://m.bitmain.com.cn/product/detail?pid=0002018110809334442941IvGb8x0678
https://m.bitmain.com.cn/product/detail?pid=00020181108093526735O6shJgO30690
https://m.bitmain.com.cn/product/detail?pid=0002018110809334442941IvGb8x0678
https://m.bitmain.com.cn/product/detail?pid=00020181108093526735O6shJgO30690
Looks like the official spec is 34th/1600w
Lets see if its true but from my supplier he says this +/- 10%
Lets see if its true but from my supplier he says this +/- 10%
1500/34000 = too good too be true.
44 watts a th is head and shoulders better then the m10 which is about 68 to 70 watts a th.
But they did claim under 50 watts a th.
44 watts a th is head and shoulders better then the m10 which is about 68 to 70 watts a th.
But they did claim under 50 watts a th.
Same ballpark as Bitfury's "Clarke" chip.
Bitmain does have a history of getting higher performance out of a node than most of the competition (though Bitfury is usually in the same ballpark).
Innosilicon in particular tends to be lower performance on a given node than Bitmain manages (there are persistant rumors that the Innosilicon A3 was never released because it was no better to worse performance than the chip that Bitmain used in the S7 on an older node).
Buying or not buying might depend on the price and other characteristics.
For example: is lower wattage a different machine (like mini) or is it a different set of frequency.
They actually implemented it (two settings) in some other machines as balanced vs turbo settings.
BTW, is it worth it to do passport/DL KYC with Bitmain and risk losing your creds somewhere in china?
Honestly, i don't get it why we have to do it since they already have my name and address?
For example: is lower wattage a different machine (like mini) or is it a different set of frequency.
They actually implemented it (two settings) in some other machines as balanced vs turbo settings.
BTW, is it worth it to do passport/DL KYC with Bitmain and risk losing your creds somewhere in china?
Honestly, i don't get it why we have to do it since they already have my name and address?
they have strict policies for Islamic countries that's why KYC for everyone
Buying or not buying might depend on the price and other characteristics.
For example: is lower wattage a different machine (like mini) or is it a different set of frequency.
They actually implemented it (two settings) in some other machines as balanced vs turbo settings.
BTW, is it worth it to do passport/DL KYC with Bitmain and risk losing your creds somewhere in china?
Honestly, i don't get it why we have to do it since they already have our names and addresses?
For example: is lower wattage a different machine (like mini) or is it a different set of frequency.
They actually implemented it (two settings) in some other machines as balanced vs turbo settings.
BTW, is it worth it to do passport/DL KYC with Bitmain and risk losing your creds somewhere in china?
Honestly, i don't get it why we have to do it since they already have our names and addresses?
Edited, sorry for the mislabeling. I was paying too much attention to all the other numbers. A sub-KW sub-$k miner would be pretty nice with anywhere near that efficiency.
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