Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 128. (Read 531168 times)

Come again?



https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=calc

Avalon 7's actually do have a shorter ROI time than ****main's s9's. They are not as effective as S9's when it comes to power efficiency but that's a small price for not supporting a p.o.s company.

#UASF

My friend, I think you spend too much time on this forum, there's no way you're this negative in RL, or maybe you no longer have any friends 

You say covert-asicboost attack vector doesn't exist? Can you reference something to back-up this claim? I'm not the type to stick to a position when new light is shed to disprove it, convince me and I'll work to convince others. I'll admit, I do not have the computer science skillset, nor the time, to validate the claim originating from GMaxwell myself. This is why we humans tend to trust experts on these matters, so we can focus on our own expertise. Hmm... should I trust GMaxell & Core regarding covert Asicboosts existence, or Mr. Genie... 

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No one is mining asicboost, you dumb twit, and despite the claims that you conveniently "forget" that you made, no one has ever mined asicboost on mainnet.

Being "Anti-Covert-Asicboost" requires that "Covert-Asicboost" does, did, or would exist.  

There's an irony in being "anti" something that is in someone's imagination.

Genie buddy, what disparaging comments are you referring to particularly? I don't recall ever trashing Bitmain, all I've ever done is stated facts. In fact I have posted positive comments on this forum and others regarding how they continue to offer the public miners when other companies (e.g. bitfury) has not, and have advised others to buy direct from Bitmain due to the best-in-class product. Just read my post history.

I looked in my post history to find what has made you so angry, maybe you are referring to this comment I made on slushpool forum? - "Also, the fact is that Bitmain has too much influence due to their mining monopoly. They control well over 51% of the hash, if you consider the pools they influence and the farms they influence with their hosting contracts..."? It just so happens that the context and subject matter of this post is true. If you read through my post history you will see that I am Anti-Covert-Asicboost (only an ignoramus wouldn't be), so if I've said anything about Bitmain it is solely related to my hate for covert Asicboost. Guess what? When I buy more Antminers, I won't be using covert-Asicboost. So I am not being a hypocrite, I am supporting the cause I believe in and putting skin in the game.

I have not "accused" Bitmain of subversive mining practices, it is a *fact* that they own Asicboost patents, so one can assume they are using the IP they spent hundreds of thousands to protect... The related Segwit2X / Scaling stall tactics are all related to covert Asicboost and protecting it, only the uninformed do not realize this. How can other mining manufacturers get in the game when there is IP threats relating to patents on security exploits (it is not a network optimization), it is simply *unfeasible* and strengthens the monopoly. Why should anyone support a monopoly that is based on a security exploit?

Sorry, not-mining is *not* an option: I have access to low cost power, so I want to mine because it is profitable to mine. I will mine on a pool that supports the vision of Bitcoin that I have, how else can it be achieved if it isn't mined? I will not mine asicboost.

Boy you are quick to be negative aren't you?

Yes, not mining is an actual option.

No, you have every right to be a hypocrite and purchase equipment from a company you've disparaged for being a monopoly and you've accused of subversive mining practices. Just don't expect that when you do all 3 of those things publicly that there will not be anyone calling you out on your bullshit.  

What other choice does one have? Not mine? Doesn't mean I can't support Core and Segwit because I'm mining with Antminers... and Avalon isn't an option, I'll probably never ROI...

I don't fault Bitmain for doing what's in their own best interest, it is expected.

Anyways, anyone have any recent experience with shipping schedule?

Fantastic, and here it is :-

Asic[33]=19016.2

OK, off to my friend Ashli over at Denver.

Thanks ComputerGenie!

You have at least 1 bad chip.
Look in the "Kernel Log" (under the "System" tab) for the words "get RT hashrate" and you should be able to see if it's just 1 bad chip or more than one (the "Asic[xx]=" part will read way higher than the rest). Sadly, there's nothing you can do to fix it on your own.

Hi.

Logged into the mine today to check over everything as you do, one of my S9's is reporting a crazy hash rate on HB2.
Ive been over and done a hard reset and its still reporting the same after a hard reset.



Any ideas folks?

Its certainly not hashing at that rate although I wish it was!

Irony: Saying a business has too much of a monopoly, accusing them of covertly using "unfair" mining practices, and then buying a "sizable" amount of equipment from them.  

Hey all, how many weeks have you been receiving your units after order, lately? Last batch (sold out now) was indicating shipping September 10th ish, but I've heard from others that they are getting their orders before the date indicated on the batch. I'm looking to make my first sizable purchase
 

Yes, because every professional, contemplating spending $100,000+USD through Paypal or debit cards, comes here (after reading imaginary complaints on BitmainTalk) and makes their first ever post here (instead of the location of the imaginary complaints on BitmainTalk) all about FUD, hyperbole, and how things used to be.  

I am new to all this but i did get confirmation of my payment made by email on my order yesterday. On a previous order my User Profile/Order details was updated with status of payment. If you log into your Bitmain.com Account (assuming you created one when you ordered) you would be able to see your order progress and even ask question about the order via their ticket system.

Everyone on your site is complaining that they have placed orders and have no confirmation of payment. Why is there no confirmation of payment and you stopped accepting Paypal or debit cards? You need to be more professional, I want to make big orders, but everyone complains on your site they have no confirmation weeks after payment. How are you dealing with this?

I've seen 16% board level failure rate. I don't have nearly as many units as you, so this might not be statistically relevant.

My previous failure rate with a similar number of S3 and S7s was zero.

FYI - It looks like Bitmain is shipping their July 5-15 batch a little early. We have another 100 units that just shipped and are due to be delivered July 6th 10th.

I've noticed a common perception in this thread that the S9 series has a high failure rate. I thought I'd share that our failure rate across 350 units has averaged around 3.9%. Perhaps that is a high failure rate compared to the S7 series, but it's a lot less than this thread would lead you to believe.

get 5 of s9 
and it is all about aug 1 segwit the price will sky rock or goes down to hell like crazy we ll see..
and they double l3+ price in a month first to 1300$ and now $2000 + 
my main concern is any one bought 10 4 of them had usually board problem and it is mention by a lot of user bitmain sales whole sales to big clients and those sold to consumers are usually the machines that can not pass quality control how come 4 of 10 machines stop work in a few week crazy
i guess i just gambled to 5  of them august batch and we ll see

More likely that has to do with the fact that the cost of an S9 has been under 0.4BTC for a while now.

As I understand the s9 is still the fastest/most effective miner in the world. I was wondering, are there any news or indications that a new, faster asic will be released soon?
Just two weeks ago there was a very high bump in difficulty - could this be because of new "unreleased" hardware going online somewhere in the world?

Yes. I only answered for a single-coin situation.