Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 169.

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Quote from: Sr.Urbanist on February 15, 2017, 07:29:37 PM

Quote from: M091 on February 15, 2017, 12:19:09 PM

Because of forum posts like this, which might deter "idiots like me" from buying from them, and maybe a few class actions... However, they are always welcome to fix their problems if they really want to...

Are they really that bad? I mean it sucks USA doesn't design/build too, but I just ordered my first two S9s. I assume most have a good experience or they would not stay in business. Plus, I have an S3 that claims to have 1100 days of activity clocked.

S9s are not awful. But you are more likely to have an issue with one than with an S7 or S5. Neither of which will do much for you now. And the S9 is the most expensive miner this late in it's product stage. I think part of the reason people get pissy about breakdowns is the poor repair options and loss of mining time. Not to mention the virtual monopoly Bitmain enjoys.
In my opinion, we are lucky to have anyone selling us miners the way btc mining has gone all corporate.

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Quote from: M091 on February 15, 2017, 12:19:09 PM

Because of forum posts like this, which might deter "idiots like me" from buying from them, and maybe a few class actions... However, they are always welcome to fix their problems if they really want to...

Are they really that bad? I mean it sucks USA doesn't design/build too, but I just ordered my first two S9s. I assume most have a good experience or they would not stay in business. Plus, I have an S3 that claims to have 1100 days of activity clocked.

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Buy, Buy, Buy and keep on Buying!

Some talk about the "Difficulty" rising while the adversaries talk about the rise in BTC price.

Keep on making the coin!

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I'm in BTC XTC

Pay no attention to laughingboy, all the smart folks on here have that noisy idiot on ignore... Including me, so don't bother replying to me moron.

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Quote from: Unacceptable on February 11, 2017, 09:38:07 PM

Quote from: M091 on February 11, 2017, 07:15:21 PM

I'd like to warn people over here about Bitmain's poor customer service and poorly built products, as I'm waiting for a few months atm for a broken hash board of an R4 miner to get repaired. Moreover, their PSUs sometimes don't switch on at all, and you need to wait a few hours before trying to get them working again by pulling out the power plug and then putting it back in the wall socket again, and another S9 miner switched broke and it took a few months to get it working again. Bitmain, please fix your problems and train your support staff better, as the current staff seems completely unreliable to solve time-critical problems as which may arise with bitcoin mining. It might be superfluous to tell you all that we're still waiting for apologies and a fitting compensation for the damage this problems causes to our mining operation. @Bitmain: thanks in advance and don't hesitate to send a private message in order to get things working again!

Why should they care??? You idiots will keeping buying their crap at a loss......no matter what!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!! Cheesy

Because of forum posts like this, which might deter "idiots like me" from buying from them, and maybe a few class actions... However, they are always welcome to fix their problems if they really want to...

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Quote from: fanatic26 on February 13, 2017, 03:26:48 PM

Quote from: Unacceptable on February 11, 2017, 09:38:07 PM

Buy video cards till sidehack gets his miners built!!!! Cool

You cant mine bitcoin with GPUs and Sidehacks miners wont be an option for people that want to make real profits from mining. For now you have to buy from one of the 3 main companies manufacturing miners.

Yes,mine altcoins instead of BTC cause the big miner corps are raising the diff over & over & over & you'll just lose your butt over & over & over Cheesy

Your pretty quick fer a new guy Wink

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he was referring to buying gpus to mine and i was reminding that this is a bitcoin subforum so buying gpus will not help anyone here looking to mine BTC

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Quote from: fanatic26 on February 13, 2017, 03:26:48 PM

Quote from: Unacceptable on February 11, 2017, 09:38:07 PM

Buy video cards till sidehack gets his miners built!!!! Cool

You cant mine bitcoin with GPUs and Sidehacks miners wont be an option for people that want to make real profits from mining. For now you have to buy from one of the 3 main companies manufacturing miners.

I think fanatic26 is referring to alt-coin mining not btc mining with GPUs.

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Quote from: Unacceptable on February 11, 2017, 09:38:07 PM

Buy video cards till sidehack gets his miners built!!!! Cool

You cant mine bitcoin with GPUs and Sidehacks miners wont be an option for people that want to make real profits from mining. For now you have to buy from one of the 3 main companies manufacturing miners.

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Quote from: M091 on February 11, 2017, 07:15:21 PM

I'd like to warn people over here about Bitmain's poor customer service and poorly built products, as I'm waiting for a few months atm for a broken hash board of an R4 miner to get repaired. Moreover, their PSUs sometimes don't switch on at all, and you need to wait a few hours before trying to get them working again by pulling out the power plug and then putting it back in the wall socket again, and another S9 miner switched broke and it took a few months to get it working again. Bitmain, please fix your problems and train your support staff better, as the current staff seems completely unreliable to solve time-critical problems as which may arise with bitcoin mining. It might be superfluous to tell you all that we're still waiting for apologies and a fitting compensation for the damage this problems causes to our mining operation. @Bitmain: thanks in advance and don't hesitate to send a private message in order to get things working again!

Why should they care??? You idiots will keeping buying their crap at a loss......no matter what!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!! Cheesy

Buy video cards till sidehack gets his miners built!!!! Cool

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I'd like to warn people over here about Bitmain's poor customer service and poorly built products, as I'm waiting for a few months atm for a broken hash board of an R4 miner to get repaired. Moreover, their PSUs sometimes don't switch on at all, and you need to wait a few hours before trying to get them working again by pulling out the power plug and then putting it back in the wall socket again, and another S9 miner switched broke and it took a few months to get it working again. Bitmain, please fix your problems and train your support staff better, as the current staff seems completely unreliable to solve time-critical problems as which may arise with bitcoin mining. It might be superfluous to tell you all that we're still waiting for apologies and a fitting compensation for the damage this problems causes to our mining operation. @Bitmain: thanks in advance and don't hesitate to send a private message in order to get things working again!

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Quote from: philipma1957 on February 10, 2017, 08:57:02 AM

Quote from: willi9974 on February 10, 2017, 02:32:09 AM

The s9 miners are not more in the Bitmain Shop and not only marked with sold out :-)
It is possible a new miner generation will come?

It would be senseless to make a new chip.

So if new gear comes it could be the T9. Maybe 10 th using 1400 watts and it does not break.

New chip. Not for a year or longer.

I am with you on this one. Intel is bringing out new chips, but this takes a while (1-1.5 years) before we see the new chips in mining. I will also agree with Phil on the incremental upgrades of the current chips to be more reliable/efficient before we see the 7nm in mining.

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Quote from: willi9974 on February 10, 2017, 02:32:09 AM

The s9 miners are not more in the Bitmain Shop and not only marked with sold out :-)
It is possible a new miner generation will come?

It would be senseless to make a new chip.

So if new gear comes it could be the T9. Maybe 10 th using 1400 watts and it does not break.

New chip. Not for a year or longer.

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Quote from: willi9974 on February 10, 2017, 02:32:09 AM

The s9 miners are not more in the Bitmain Shop and not only marked with sold out :-)
It is possible a new miner generation will come?

no, they just change the price with BTC

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The s9 miners are not more in the Bitmain Shop and not only marked with sold out :-)
It is possible a new miner generation will come?

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Well this is good news and also bad news,. Good news we can start to combat the endless trove of thieves that btc seems to harbor. Bad news we prolly only seen the beginning of price to tank. Be interesting if it tanks far enough and people have to withdrawal their s7.. what will happen .. Anyone guess. Somehow I think Bitmain may have some trouble producing enough s7. time will tell. Lets hope this is only opportunity to buy lower. http://www.coindesk.com/two-chinas-biggest-exchanges-stop-bitcoin-withdrawals/

http://www.bitcoinforecast.com/kraken.usd

Lets hope you took the advice and didn't invest more than you can afford to lose.. Lord knows i sure lost my hat with all this BS. Time to dump everything for me. Ive flat out had enough

Good luck to all in your future endeavors. Took me long enough.. But this crap just isn't my forte

With Best Regards and well wishes.

73's
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Quote from: philipma1957 on February 08, 2017, 07:53:10 PM

Quote from: takagari on February 08, 2017, 07:33:38 PM

Quote from: Swimmer63 on February 07, 2017, 04:22:33 PM

Quote from: tntdgcr on February 07, 2017, 03:42:29 PM

Quote from: takagari on February 07, 2017, 11:55:41 AM

It is sad that they do this. they use us to bank roll their system

why is that sad? they make a product you want ....

Almost every successful product based business grows this way. If people did not buy Bitmain miners they would not have the money to innovate and bring out newer, faster, more efficient miners. And you can replace the word miners with widgets and Bitmain with any company building cutting edge products. Tesla has done the exact same thing as have 100's of brands we buy and use every day.
Bitmain has a lot of faults, like there deplorable repair system. But it's a well run business in most respects.

It's sad that they sell junk and don't warranty it worth a damn.
And we don't payf or them to invent, I'm fairly certain they keep a miner for every one or two they sell which is dumped into their farms. have you seen how big they are? we bank roll their mining.
Which would be okay if the hardware they were releasing was worthy and reliable.

Hashnest and the gear never breaks. pay 7 cents for power and use of their psu.

To compete against this you need 5 cent power with no breakdowns. or 3 cent power with breakdowns.

really not much choice to go past mining at hashnest.

I think they just haven't squeezed all of the juice out of hashnest S7's so they are lowering the fees. Otherwise they would face huge amount of S7's being redeemed. As long as S7's are in their hands, they earn transaction and maintenance fees.
Or an even worse suspicion: they simply don't have that many S7's to back up the amount represented on hashnest. it could be hashrate created from nowhere, or from S9's.

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Quote from: takagari on February 08, 2017, 07:33:38 PM

Quote from: Swimmer63 on February 07, 2017, 04:22:33 PM

Quote from: tntdgcr on February 07, 2017, 03:42:29 PM

Quote from: takagari on February 07, 2017, 11:55:41 AM

It is sad that they do this. they use us to bank roll their system

why is that sad? they make a product you want ....

Almost every successful product based business grows this way. If people did not buy Bitmain miners they would not have the money to innovate and bring out newer, faster, more efficient miners. And you can replace the word miners with widgets and Bitmain with any company building cutting edge products. Tesla has done the exact same thing as have 100's of brands we buy and use every day.
Bitmain has a lot of faults, like there deplorable repair system. But it's a well run business in most respects.

It's sad that they sell junk and don't warranty it worth a damn.
And we don't payf or them to invent, I'm fairly certain they keep a miner for every one or two they sell which is dumped into their farms. have you seen how big they are? we bank roll their mining.
Which would be okay if the hardware they were releasing was worthy and reliable.

Hashnest and the gear never breaks. pay 7 cents for power and use of their psu.

To compete against this you need 5 cent power with no breakdowns. or 3 cent power with breakdowns.

really not much choice to go past mining at hashnest.

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Quote from: Swimmer63 on February 07, 2017, 04:22:33 PM

Quote from: tntdgcr on February 07, 2017, 03:42:29 PM

Quote from: takagari on February 07, 2017, 11:55:41 AM

It is sad that they do this. they use us to bank roll their system

why is that sad? they make a product you want ....

Almost every successful product based business grows this way. If people did not buy Bitmain miners they would not have the money to innovate and bring out newer, faster, more efficient miners. And you can replace the word miners with widgets and Bitmain with any company building cutting edge products. Tesla has done the exact same thing as have 100's of brands we buy and use every day.
Bitmain has a lot of faults, like there deplorable repair system. But it's a well run business in most respects.

It's sad that they sell junk and don't warranty it worth a damn.
And we don't payf or them to invent, I'm fairly certain they keep a miner for every one or two they sell which is dumped into their farms. have you seen how big they are? we bank roll their mining.
Which would be okay if the hardware they were releasing was worthy and reliable.

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Quote from: kurbeks on February 08, 2017, 09:09:46 AM

10nm is also half node. And TSMC alredy told it will be short lived process. Both GlFo and TSMC will do 7nm as full node. Then can expect new Miners from Bitmain. No point from them to waste money on 10/12nm chip if they have massive efficency lead.

Well OK, I've got your point

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