Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 218. (Read 531298 times)
October 28, 2016, 09:51:41 AM
There are other reasons. The Bitfury ASIC is 6mm square, for 36mm^2 of surface area for heat transfer. Compare to the BM1384 with 64mm^2 area and a practical upperbound on the S5 of 10W (400MHz) gives a proportional areal heat density of 5.6W for the Bitfury chip; assuming it can be pushed to 6W safely that's 624W of board heat, plus fan power and controls and PSU losses puts it at about 750 wall watts maximum.
October 28, 2016, 09:36:49 AM
Hey Phil - I very highly doubt that miner will pull 1000W without the ASICs bursting into flames. I'd like to see their actual numbers, but my guess would be ~700W tops.
looking at it i would think the older style s3 heatsinks can not do 1000 watts.
so you could be correct that it is a 700watt miner.
October 28, 2016, 08:47:18 AM
Hey Phil - I very highly doubt that miner will pull 1000W without the ASICs bursting into flames. I'd like to see their actual numbers, but my guess would be ~700W tops.
October 28, 2016, 07:14:22 AM
Nah there is still Batch 18 left... for now.
I seriously thought (for about 1 min) about ordering 2 of the b18's. But -- I've really been waiting for another release of the R4's so I can get one or 2 for room heaters. Ya know, cool weather here and cold arriving... Wisely chose to Just Say No and stuck with just the one.Since again it will be replacing a power slot in my main farm at work that is currently used by a s7... starting to really get an unsightly buildup of off-line s7's growing at work
Then in in Pasture there is the uber-rare fully functional retired A1 rig from AMT, 2x s2's, 2x C1's, and 2x s4's... Quite the collection. Glad I was at least able to offload literal pile of my old s1's 3's, 5's, and another s4 to Sidehack
Lol I placed an order for 1 B18, but my wallet took well over an hour to synch, so the order expired. So I placed an order for 2 instead
October 28, 2016, 05:38:18 AM
yeah I saw those photos. but here is the deal the `14 nm chips all over the world from BMT to Intel have had issues .
Size matters the smaller you go the more voltage issues of leaking occur.
look for the 14nm design to stick around 2x to 3x longrt then the 28 nm size.
If BMT makes a new miner the s11 it may have an upgraded 14nm chip.
It may use more of the same chip at lower volts.
It will not be for sale until another company drops a new miner that is close in quality to the s9.
the miner below is said to exsist
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16681727
10 th at 1000 watts if this is sold at 899 - 999 usd it would be better then the s9.
If this goes on sale in under 1 month and does not crash and burn. It would push BMT
I did not even notice that thread was active again. Looking nice! Size matters the smaller you go the more voltage issues of leaking occur.
look for the 14nm design to stick around 2x to 3x longrt then the 28 nm size.
If BMT makes a new miner the s11 it may have an upgraded 14nm chip.
It may use more of the same chip at lower volts.
It will not be for sale until another company drops a new miner that is close in quality to the s9.
the miner below is said to exsist
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16681727
10 th at 1000 watts if this is sold at 899 - 999 usd it would be better then the s9.
If this goes on sale in under 1 month and does not crash and burn. It would push BMT
October 28, 2016, 05:32:03 AM
Antminer s9 is a good choice if you have free electricity otherwise keep some hundred's of dollars in your bank and pay the electricity bills.
October 28, 2016, 04:12:32 AM
Now it is time to buy S9 batch 19,20 or to wait for new s10 or s11
because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
BMT has no reason to release another miner. They have absolutely zero competition on the 14/16 nm node.because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
but in one exhibition it was shown that 14nm then 10 nm then 7 nm
yeah I saw those photos. but here is the deal the `14 nm chips all over the world from BMT to Intel have had issues .
Size matters the smaller you go the more voltage issues of leaking occur.
look for the 14nm design to stick around 2x to 3x longrt then the 28 nm size.
If BMT makes a new miner the s11 it may have an upgraded 14nm chip.
It may use more of the same chip at lower volts.
It will not be for sale until another company drops a new miner that is close in quality to the s9.
the miner below is said to exsist
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16681727
10 th at 1000 watts if this is sold at 899 - 999 usd it would be better then the s9.
If this goes on sale in under 1 month and does not crash and burn. It would push BMT
October 28, 2016, 03:47:03 AM
Now it is time to buy S9 batch 19,20 or to wait for new s10 or s11
because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
BMT has no reason to release another miner. They have absolutely zero competition on the 14/16 nm node.because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
but in one exhibition it was shown that 14nm then 10 nm then 7 nm
October 28, 2016, 01:15:20 AM
Now it is time to buy S9 batch 19,20 or to wait for new s10 or s11
because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
BMT has no reason to release another miner. They have absolutely zero competition on the 14/16 nm node.because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
but in one exhibition it was shown that 14nm then 10 nm then 7 nm
October 28, 2016, 01:14:01 AM
Now it is time to buy S9 batch 19,20 or to wait for new s10 or s11
because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
BMT has no reason to release another miner. They have absolutely zero competition on the 14/16 nm node. because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
October 28, 2016, 12:57:15 AM
Now it is time to buy S9 batch 19,20 or to wait for new s10 or s11
because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
October 27, 2016, 10:05:41 PM
what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
It seems like they've always manually adjusted their price on the site. Maybe they're afraid of automatic adjustments and the affect of larger price swings.
then, they should not say "bitcoins", just sell for $$ from credit cards or paypal.
bitcoin does not have bitmain's favorite value; value is known, real time.
what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
It seems like they've always manually adjusted their price on the site. Maybe they're afraid of automatic adjustments and the affect of larger price swings.
sometimes you win out on a drop. I have done it once in a while.
nowadays they just stop sales when it happens.
October 27, 2016, 10:04:12 PM
what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
It seems like they've always manually adjusted their price on the site. Maybe they're afraid of automatic adjustments and the affect of larger price swings.
sometimes you win out on a drop. I have done it once in a while.
October 27, 2016, 09:48:20 PM
what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
It seems like they've always manually adjusted their price on the site. Maybe they're afraid of automatic adjustments and the affect of larger price swings.
October 27, 2016, 07:06:36 PM
what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
October 27, 2016, 07:02:33 PM
Nah there is still Batch 18 left... for now.
I seriously thought (for about 1 min) about ordering 2 of the b18's. But -- I've really been waiting for another release of the R4's so I can get one or 2 for room heaters. Ya know, cool weather here and cold arriving... Wisely chose to Just Say No and stuck with just the one.Since again it will be replacing a power slot in my main farm at work that is currently used by a s7... starting to really get an unsightly buildup of off-line s7's growing at work
Then also in Pasture there is the uber-rare fully functional retired A1 rig from AMT, 2x s2's, 2x C1's, and 2x s4's... Quite the collection. Glad I was at least able to offload literal pile of my old s1's 3's, 5's, and another s4 to Sidehack
October 27, 2016, 06:54:48 PM
Nah there is still Batch 18 left... for now.
October 27, 2016, 06:53:09 PM
All "Sold Out"!
Well damn that was fast!Glad I um, ordered #9 for me just after lunch.
Is a batch-18. Just couldn't see spending ~$400 USD more for the not-enough-faster batch-19. In the past the price diff was more like ~$200 or a tad more so I had always gone for the faster ones released. This is 1st time I didn't.
October 27, 2016, 06:27:33 PM
All "Sold Out"!
October 27, 2016, 06:24:46 PM
I have a feeling that these latest batches are quite limited in quantity.
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