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Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 219. (Read 531173 times)

legendary
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Nah there is still Batch 18 left... for now.
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
All "Sold Out"!
Well damn that was fast!
Glad I um, ordered #9 for me just after lunch.

Is a batch-18. Just couldn't see spending ~$400 USD more for the not-enough-faster batch-19. In the past the price diff was more like ~$200 or a tad more so I had always gone for the faster ones released. This is 1st time I didn't.
legendary
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Mine for a Bit
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
I have a feeling that these latest batches are quite limited in quantity.
legendary
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All sold out

And they are back at 11TH Smiley Like a yo-yo.. people must be buying and getting cold feet.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
^^^it does not have to be either/or.  you can spread it around or not buy any miner (hold btc/eth instead).
the setup you described makes only $172/mo (before electricity) right now. I don't see how it pays $3000.
It looked better in July, of course, with altcoin at $15 and much lower difficulty.
Now...meh.

I sold off a lot of gear and I am holding 20 btc so  far so good.

hoping that lightningasic.com releases it 10th miner that they have show us .


I rather both the s9 and any big miner be well under 1000k  not well over.

the s9 13.5 is 1607 plus shipping.
legendary
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legendary
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^^^it does not have to be either/or.  you can spread it around or not buy any miner (hold btc/eth instead).
the setup you described makes only $172/mo (before electricity) right now. I don't see how it pays $3000.
It looked better in July, of course, with altcoin at $15 and much lower difficulty.
Now...meh.
legendary
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its amazing people are still buying these things..

low warranty, that cost money to use it..
high failure rate.. so almost guaranteed to break down.
very high cost.. so no chance of roi..


if you guys bought 8 rx 480s for 250 each, and 4 bare bones cpus/board/ram combos.. you would spend about 3000$ and make MORE bitcoin in the end with lower power costs.. and a guaranteed chance of roi with a 3 to 5 year warranty on hardware.
hero member
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13.5 th autotune fan is spinning up and down from 2500 to 5000
jeez
sr. member
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Batch 19 13.5th version is sold out. I wonder how many they had to sale?
sr. member
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I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.

Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip?  The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did.  I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them.  I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3).  That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.

EDIT:  I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
You mean older s9's? New firmware does not run on old s9's?

I believe it runs, but so far, from what I have seen reported, it doesn't actually make them autotune at all like the new ones do.

EDIT: Batch 19 saying sold out on the website already.

Not.you is correct it works on older versions but won't auto tune.
legendary
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I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.

Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip?  The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did.  I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them.  I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3).  That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.

EDIT:  I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
You mean older s9's? New firmware does not run on old s9's?

I believe it runs, but so far, from what I have seen reported, it doesn't actually make them autotune at all like the new ones do.

EDIT: Batch 19 saying sold out on the website already.
sr. member
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It seems like the autotune frequencies are programmed in to the PIC in the hash boards.
I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again  Grin
Crap.
I think the install of the autotune said don't have the "SAVE SETTINGS" button set. Maybe...

I also am giving todays firmware a try. Really hoping Bitmain gives us the ability to control fan speed again. My machine is running 10c hotter than the rest.
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
It seems like the autotune frequencies are programmed in to the PIC in the hash boards.
I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again  Grin
et.
This means that the autotune frequencies are only available in the newest batches.
hero member
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It seems like the autotune frequencies are programmed in to the PIC in the hash boards.
I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again  Grin
Crap.
I think the install of the autotune said don't have the "SAVE SETTINGS" button set. Maybe...
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
It seems like the autotune frequencies are programmed in to the PIC in the hash boards.
I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again  Grin
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 523

I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.

Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip?  The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did.  I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them.  I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3).  That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.

EDIT:  I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
You mean older s9's? New firmware does not run on old s9's?
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018

I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.

Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip?  The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did.  I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them.  I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3).  That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.

EDIT:  I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
hero member
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If you use multibit HD you can 'fix' (fix button) your wallet which will clear the payment and you can resubmit.
Bitcoin core wallet has to be restarted with some goofy flag to do the same.

Run bitcoin core with -zapwallettxes  flag to clear unconfirmed transactions.

I have done BOTH of these fixes, have BOTH wallets.

That's super helpful to know.  Thanks.  I was using multibit hd in this case but it was confirmed already so all good.  I also use a variety of different wallets but usually use the multibit wallet for my miner purchases.

Bitmain needs to give us control over fan speed again.

Wouldn't mind a lower limit but we really need more fan speed. Maybe even an idiot  FAN BOOST button for us paranoid folk.
They do control the fan speed with the autotune, just need a bit more. Chips may have lower HWE when they are warmer, that might be the reasoning.
If we could just bend some tech's ear....

Yeah it would be nice if you could at least increase it some.  I was running my early batches at 90% all summer.  I have them decreased to 80% now though.
I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq. Or just put in the FAN BOOST button on the GUI.
I have to run mine at 80% fan to keep them cool and they are in a tier 4 datacenter. 30%/40% seems a bit scary for a $1600 machine,
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