All sold out
And they are back at 11TH
Like a yo-yo.. people must be buying and getting cold feet. 
Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 219. (Read 531298 times)
October 27, 2016, 06:23:33 PM
And they are back at 11TH
Like a yo-yo.. people must be buying and getting cold feet. 
October 27, 2016, 06:12:30 PM
^^^it does not have to be either/or. you can spread it around or not buy any miner (hold btc/eth instead).
the setup you described makes only $172/mo (before electricity) right now. I don't see how it pays $3000.
It looked better in July, of course, with altcoin at $15 and much lower difficulty.
Now...meh.
the setup you described makes only $172/mo (before electricity) right now. I don't see how it pays $3000.
It looked better in July, of course, with altcoin at $15 and much lower difficulty.
Now...meh.
I sold off a lot of gear and I am holding 20 btc so far so good.
hoping that lightningasic.com releases it 10th miner that they have show us .
I rather both the s9 and any big miner be well under 1000k not well over.
the s9 13.5 is 1607 plus shipping.
October 27, 2016, 06:05:56 PM
All sold out
October 27, 2016, 04:16:21 PM
^^^it does not have to be either/or. you can spread it around or not buy any miner (hold btc/eth instead).
the setup you described makes only $172/mo (before electricity) right now. I don't see how it pays $3000.
It looked better in July, of course, with altcoin at $15 and much lower difficulty.
Now...meh.
the setup you described makes only $172/mo (before electricity) right now. I don't see how it pays $3000.
It looked better in July, of course, with altcoin at $15 and much lower difficulty.
Now...meh.
October 27, 2016, 04:04:39 PM
its amazing people are still buying these things..
low warranty, that cost money to use it..
high failure rate.. so almost guaranteed to break down.
very high cost.. so no chance of roi..
if you guys bought 8 rx 480s for 250 each, and 4 bare bones cpus/board/ram combos.. you would spend about 3000$ and make MORE bitcoin in the end with lower power costs.. and a guaranteed chance of roi with a 3 to 5 year warranty on hardware.
low warranty, that cost money to use it..
high failure rate.. so almost guaranteed to break down.
very high cost.. so no chance of roi..
if you guys bought 8 rx 480s for 250 each, and 4 bare bones cpus/board/ram combos.. you would spend about 3000$ and make MORE bitcoin in the end with lower power costs.. and a guaranteed chance of roi with a 3 to 5 year warranty on hardware.
October 27, 2016, 03:58:53 PM
13.5 th autotune fan is spinning up and down from 2500 to 5000
jeez
jeez
October 27, 2016, 03:49:36 PM
Batch 19 13.5th version is sold out. I wonder how many they had to sale?
October 27, 2016, 02:34:19 PM
I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.
Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip? The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did. I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them. I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3). That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.
EDIT: I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
I believe it runs, but so far, from what I have seen reported, it doesn't actually make them autotune at all like the new ones do.
EDIT: Batch 19 saying sold out on the website already.
Not.you is correct it works on older versions but won't auto tune.
October 27, 2016, 02:08:44 PM
I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.
Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip? The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did. I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them. I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3). That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.
EDIT: I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
I believe it runs, but so far, from what I have seen reported, it doesn't actually make them autotune at all like the new ones do.
EDIT: Batch 19 saying sold out on the website already.
October 27, 2016, 02:02:14 PM
It seems like the autotune frequencies are programmed in to the PIC in the hash boards.
I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again
Crap.I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again
I think the install of the autotune said don't have the "SAVE SETTINGS" button set. Maybe...
I also am giving todays firmware a try. Really hoping Bitmain gives us the ability to control fan speed again. My machine is running 10c hotter than the rest.
October 27, 2016, 02:01:21 PM
It seems like the autotune frequencies are programmed in to the PIC in the hash boards.
I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again
et.
This means that the autotune frequencies are only available in the newest batches. I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again
et.
October 27, 2016, 01:59:25 PM
It seems like the autotune frequencies are programmed in to the PIC in the hash boards.
I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again
Crap.I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again
I think the install of the autotune said don't have the "SAVE SETTINGS" button set. Maybe...
October 27, 2016, 01:53:47 PM
It seems like the autotune frequencies are programmed in to the PIC in the hash boards.
I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again
I tried the new firmware October 27 in my S9, batch 2 and all it tried based on the kernel log was 600Mhz all over again
October 27, 2016, 01:51:32 PM
I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.
Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip? The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did. I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them. I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3). That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.
EDIT: I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
October 27, 2016, 01:45:06 PM
I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.
Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip? The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did. I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them. I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3). That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.
EDIT: I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
October 27, 2016, 01:32:56 PM
If you use multibit HD you can 'fix' (fix button) your wallet which will clear the payment and you can resubmit.
Bitcoin core wallet has to be restarted with some goofy flag to do the same.
Run bitcoin core with -zapwallettxes flag to clear unconfirmed transactions.
I have done BOTH of these fixes, have BOTH wallets.
That's super helpful to know. Thanks. I was using multibit hd in this case but it was confirmed already so all good. I also use a variety of different wallets but usually use the multibit wallet for my miner purchases.
Bitmain needs to give us control over fan speed again.
Wouldn't mind a lower limit but we really need more fan speed. Maybe even an idiot FAN BOOST button for us paranoid folk.
They do control the fan speed with the autotune, just need a bit more. Chips may have lower HWE when they are warmer, that might be the reasoning.
If we could just bend some tech's ear....
They do control the fan speed with the autotune, just need a bit more. Chips may have lower HWE when they are warmer, that might be the reasoning.
If we could just bend some tech's ear....
Yeah it would be nice if you could at least increase it some. I was running my early batches at 90% all summer. I have them decreased to 80% now though.
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq. Or just put in the FAN BOOST button on the GUI.
I have to run mine at 80% fan to keep them cool and they are in a tier 4 datacenter. 30%/40% seems a bit scary for a $1600 machine,
October 27, 2016, 01:28:18 PM
If you use multibit HD you can 'fix' (fix button) your wallet which will clear the payment and you can resubmit.
Bitcoin core wallet has to be restarted with some goofy flag to do the same.
Run bitcoin core with -zapwallettxes flag to clear unconfirmed transactions.
I have done BOTH of these fixes, have BOTH wallets.
That's super helpful to know. Thanks. I was using multibit hd in this case but it was confirmed already so all good. I also use a variety of different wallets but usually use the multibit wallet for my miner purchases.
Bitmain needs to give us control over fan speed again.
Wouldn't mind a lower limit but we really need more fan speed. Maybe even an idiot FAN BOOST button for us paranoid folk.
They do control the fan speed with the autotune, just need a bit more. Chips may have lower HWE when they are warmer, that might be the reasoning.
If we could just bend some tech's ear....
They do control the fan speed with the autotune, just need a bit more. Chips may have lower HWE when they are warmer, that might be the reasoning.
If we could just bend some tech's ear....
Yeah it would be nice if you could at least increase it some. I was running my early batches at 90% all summer. I have them decreased to 80% now though.
October 27, 2016, 01:21:33 PM
New firmware running 20C hotter (PCB) than old.
75C vs 55C
HWE are low.
75C vs 55C
HWE are low.
My test machine is running hotter also. The update runs quite smooth, Bitmain needs to give us control over fan speed again.
They do control the fan speed with the autotune, just need a bit more. Chips may have lower HWE when they are warmer, that might be the reasoning.
If we could just bend some tech's ear....
October 27, 2016, 01:17:08 PM
New firmware running 20C hotter (PCB) than old.
75C vs 55C
HWE are low.
75C vs 55C
HWE are low.
My test machine is running hotter also. The update runs quite smooth, Bitmain needs to give us control over fan speed again.
October 27, 2016, 01:15:37 PM
New firmware running 20C hotter (PCB) than old.
75C vs 55C
HWE are low.
Fans run slow (about 30%)
New oct 27 firmware now.
75C vs 55C
HWE are low.
Fans run slow (about 30%)
New oct 27 firmware now.
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