Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 225.

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Quote from: ZymurBits on October 18, 2016, 11:44:34 AM

New firmware released today. Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date). Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case). Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

the temps are probably higher because the new firmware automatically overclocks the miner to the highest freq for each board. i much rather have each board at the same freq. one of my miners has a freq of 477 while another board in the same miner has a freq of over 600...that board is also hotter than the other 2. this will probably cause more failed boards than the old firmware did. afterall bitmain said "overclocking voids your warranty" because it puts the miner under more stress that wears it out faster...now it overclocks itself which will cause premature failures....not a good look bitmain...

has anyone tried the old firmware versions on b17 and 18?? im not sure what makes this batch any different. my 12th miners had 12th stickers placed over top of the 11.83th stickers and both stickers had the same serial number so im wondering if they are just saying that so people dont downgrade their firmware.

we're rolling it out on some 17s today and earlier problem miners.

I actually flashed it on a B14. Frequency has stayed at 550 on all boards. Chip temps still much higher than other S9's due to fan speed.

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Quote from: numnutz2009 on October 18, 2016, 12:35:14 PM

Quote from: Sierra8561 on October 18, 2016, 12:14:55 PM

Quote from: ZymurBits on October 18, 2016, 12:02:43 PM

Quote from: Sierra8561 on October 18, 2016, 11:47:46 AM

Quote from: ZymurBits on October 18, 2016, 11:44:34 AM

New firmware released today. Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date). Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case). Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

the temps are probably higher because the new firmware automatically overclocks the miner to the highest freq for each board. i much rather have each board at the same freq. one of my miners has a freq of 477 while another board in the same miner has a freq of over 600...that board is also hotter than the other 2. this will probably cause more failed boards than the old firmware did. afterall bitmain said "overclocking voids your warranty" because it puts the miner under more stress that wears it out faster...now it overclocks itself which will cause premature failures....not a good look bitmain...

has anyone tried the old firmware versions on b17 and 18?? im not sure what makes this batch any different. my 12th miners had 12th stickers placed over top of the 11.83th stickers and both stickers had the same serial number so im wondering if they are just saying that so people dont downgrade their firmware.

we're rolling it out on some 17s today and earlier problem miners.

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Quote from: Sierra8561 on October 18, 2016, 12:14:55 PM

Quote from: ZymurBits on October 18, 2016, 12:02:43 PM

Quote from: Sierra8561 on October 18, 2016, 11:47:46 AM

Quote from: ZymurBits on October 18, 2016, 11:44:34 AM

New firmware released today. Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date). Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case). Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

the temps are probably higher because the new firmware automatically overclocks the miner to the highest freq for each board. i much rather have each board at the same freq. one of my miners has a freq of 477 while another board in the same miner has a freq of over 600...that board is also hotter than the other 2. this will probably cause more failed boards than the old firmware did. afterall bitmain said "overclocking voids your warranty" because it puts the miner under more stress that wears it out faster...now it overclocks itself which will cause premature failures....not a good look bitmain...

has anyone tried the old firmware versions on b17 and 18?? im not sure what makes this batch any different. my 12th miners had 12th stickers placed over top of the 11.83th stickers and both stickers had the same serial number so im wondering if they are just saying that so people dont downgrade their firmware.

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Quote from: ZymurBits on October 18, 2016, 12:02:43 PM

Quote from: Sierra8561 on October 18, 2016, 11:47:46 AM

Quote from: ZymurBits on October 18, 2016, 11:44:34 AM

New firmware released today. Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date). Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case). Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

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Quote from: HagssFIN on October 18, 2016, 12:00:39 PM

Quote from: Biodom on October 18, 2016, 11:51:36 AM

One board on S9 (two month old) does not work anymore. It is still under warranty, but is it even worth it sending it to hong kong?
What is the cost to do that from US, approximately? Instructions are peculiar and I have no ability to photograph anything as the miner is in hosting. What did you guys use, UPS or FEDEX?

Philipma1957 here in forum has had good experience with BitmainWarranty.
In US it might be a good idea to deal with them.
www.bitmainwarranty.com

thanks. this is probably true re US repair, although typically you have to pay for it.
However, apart from sending cost, you are not supposed to pay for warranty repair in Hong Kong.
What if repair cost close to board cost when you do it in US? Then, it does not make sense.

I would appreciate if someone post re cost of sending a board from US to HK. Thanks.

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Quote from: Sierra8561 on October 18, 2016, 11:47:46 AM

Quote from: ZymurBits on October 18, 2016, 11:44:34 AM

New firmware released today. Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date). Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case). Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

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Quote from: Biodom on October 18, 2016, 11:51:36 AM

One board on S9 (two month old) does not work anymore. It is still under warranty, but is it even worth it sending it to hong kong?
What is the cost to do that from US, approximately? Instructions are peculiar and I have no ability to photograph anything as the miner is in hosting. What did you guys use, UPS or FEDEX?

Philipma1957 here in forum has had good experience with BitmainWarranty.
In US it might be a good idea to deal with them.
www.bitmainwarranty.com

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One board on S9 (two month old) does not work anymore. It is still under warranty, but is it even worth it sending it to hong kong?
What is the cost to do that from US, approximately? Instructions are peculiar and I have no ability to photograph anything as the miner is in hosting. What did you guys use, UPS or FEDEX?

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Quote from: ZymurBits on October 18, 2016, 11:44:34 AM

New firmware released today. Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date). Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

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New firmware released today. Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date). Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

Correction - Date is 10/18. Must get new glasses.

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i get there response

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Thank you for the updates. I need to check with the engineers about how the B17 machine handles interruptions in the internet connection. This batch miner works very differently from earlier batches.

The earlier firmware will not work on this batch.

I will get back to you as soon as I have more information.

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on October 18, 2016, 12:31:54 AM

Since you are using Awesome miner to monitor/control, try editing the Miner Offline rule to use 'Start Miner" Instead of "Restart Miner. I just started trying that and so far it seems to give the miner a kick in the pants without doing a full restart/warm boot.

good advice, thank you
i will try it after start my miner because i closed it until i fixed my internet connection with my ISP

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Hey! my first post on these forums so sorry if I am doing something wrong

I saw Bitmain does not sell S9s anymore, they are out of stock. Anyone knows when it will be filled up, any soon? And while its not in stock, where should I buy it off? I would buy it at ebay but I am not sure, is it recommended by you guys? Also I was looking for a trusted seller not a random 40-50 point ones on ebay (yeah I know they are mostly not scammers either, but I am paranoid!)

TL;DR: where to buy s9?

Sorry if this was posted before.

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Since you are using Awesome miner to monitor/control, try editing the Miner Offline rule to use 'Start Miner" Instead of "Restart Miner. I just started trying that and so far it seems to give the miner a kick in the pants without doing a full restart/warm boot.

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on October 17, 2016, 07:10:25 PM

Quote from: mamiakimo on October 17, 2016, 06:20:21 PM

i replaced the psu to another one used on B600 and they both work correctly now!
i hope this issue wouldn't return

Cool.
Query: what PSU's are you using? I've pretty much have mostly used Bitmains 1,600W ones and some are getting very long in the tooth... At least one that was powering a s9 b3 had to be swapped out with a bit newer one (previously used on a s7). Miner seems more stable now although even at worst dropouts were maybe 1 every5-6 days.

PSU: EVGA 1600G2
i think i found the problem
i have unstable internet connection
i am losing it about 5-10 times a day for 1 minute or 2
all my miners haven't problem with that except B17
some times it can handle this disconnect but some other times it losing hash rate and not return to full hash rate until i restart it
so it's the new firmware issue i guess
i will ask the support to give me an old firmware until they fix this issue

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Quote from: mamiakimo on October 17, 2016, 06:20:21 PM

i replaced the psu to another one used on B600 and they both work correctly now!
i hope this issue wouldn't return

Cool.
Query: what PSU's are you using? I've pretty much have mostly used Bitmains 1,600W ones and some are getting very long in the tooth... At least one that was powering a s9 b3 had to be swapped out with a bit newer one (previously used on a s7). Miner seems more stable now although even at worst dropouts were maybe 1 every5-6 days.

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on October 17, 2016, 05:58:54 PM

Quote from: mamiakimo on October 17, 2016, 04:58:41 PM

i went to boot loop now
every 20 minutes and before the machine start it restart by self

As others said - contact Bitmain to start the RMA process.
For now -- and document all of this with screen shots --,
At the bad hashboard, swap the data cable with a hashboard next to it.

Restart the miner and take screen shot. Did the problem chain move?
If it did the hashboard is bad.
If it did NOT then either the cable or controller is bad.
Odds are it's the board.

Once the problem is identified I disconnect that 1 board/cable so the remaining 2 can work properly. DO NOT BREAK THE WARRANTY SEAL UNTIL BITMAIN SAYS YOU CAN!

**TIP** unplugging the data cable can be -- difficult. You need to squeeze the long tab very firmly to disengage the hooks, then rock the connector back and forth as you pull.

i replaced the psu to another one used on B600 and they both work correctly now!
i hope this issue wouldn't return

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Quote from: mamiakimo on October 17, 2016, 04:58:41 PM

i went to boot loop now
every 20 minutes and before the machine start it restart by self

As others said - contact Bitmain to start the RMA process.
For now -- and document all of this with screen shots --,
At the bad hashboard, swap the data cable with a hashboard next to it.

Restart the miner and take screen shot. Did the problem chain move?
If it did the hashboard is bad.
If it did NOT then either the cable or controller is bad.
Odds are it's the board.

Once the problem is identified I'd disconnect that 1 board/cable so the remaining 2 can work properly. DO NOT BREAK THE WARRANTY SEAL UNTIL BITMAIN SAYS YOU CAN!

**TIP** unplugging the data cable can be -- difficult. You need to squeeze the long tab very firmly to disengage the hooks, then rock the connector back and forth as you pull.

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Quote from: AriesIV10 on October 17, 2016, 05:32:18 PM

What software is this?

If you are referring to the monitor software -- it is Awesome Miner from Awesomeminer.com.
I also use it and gotta say - it's great and well worth the 1-time cost when controlling >4 miners. 4 or less is free! Cheesy

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Quote from: mamiakimo on October 17, 2016, 03:38:21 PM

now after 5 hours i lost all hash rate

What software is this?

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