But but but... it's LIMITED EDISHIN, collectible almost, you'll have the honor of being among the million of other suckers who fell for that.
The good news is that whoever bought Batch 2 (or was it 3?) for under 3 BTC can now sell it for a nice ROI, considering that they mined perhaps half a coin by now.
Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 280. (Read 531298 times)
July 13, 2016, 09:07:27 AM
July 13, 2016, 09:02:35 AM
What a disappointment. I'm not even tempted to buy at these prices.
Bitmain, there's lots of us waiting for your prices to make sense. Hurry up and find a reasonable price point.
To everyone else, stop paying these outrageous prices. Seriously. You're only enabling Bitmain to keep gouging.
Bitmain, there's lots of us waiting for your prices to make sense. Hurry up and find a reasonable price point.
To everyone else, stop paying these outrageous prices. Seriously. You're only enabling Bitmain to keep gouging.
July 13, 2016, 08:55:56 AM
You also have to ascribe an accurate decisional weight to the warranty from Bitmain. It's pretty much understood that they'll do as much as they can to deny all warranty claims, and if you read the not-so-fine print basically any feasible issue is not covered under the warranty. I would not consider a Bitmain warranty as a factor in any risk assessment. The few problems they will actually work with you on, once you factor in hassle, arguments, shipping to China and the associated revenue loss of extended downtime, it'd be cheaper to solve the problem with parts off eBay or something. If you happen to have a hashboard that fails without burning something (and therefore voiding warranty) might be a bit tricky, but what are the odds of that?
exactly what i had last week.
Left for work all 3 boards of batch 1 working fine. come home 1 board dead. tried everything to bring it back to life. nothing worked. no visible burn marks or hot spots. board was just dead. 180 in shipping later, off to warranty it goes.
July 13, 2016, 08:54:46 AM
We wish you all a happy mining experience
Thanks Bitmain! Me very happy mining on GPUs nowdays
July 13, 2016, 07:58:40 AM
Hello all,
We are releasing two new limited-edition batches of the Antminer S9 today (13 July 2016) at 16:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).
Batch 8 and batch 9 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively. They are ready to ship upon order confirmation.
We advise those who missed the previous batches to confirm their orders here (https://goo.gl/SNkLVb) for batch 8 or here (https://goo.gl/clxHhx) for batch 9 while stock lasts.
We wish you all a happy mining experience,
the Bitmain team
We are releasing two new limited-edition batches of the Antminer S9 today (13 July 2016) at 16:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).
Batch 8 and batch 9 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively. They are ready to ship upon order confirmation.
We advise those who missed the previous batches to confirm their orders here (https://goo.gl/SNkLVb) for batch 8 or here (https://goo.gl/clxHhx) for batch 9 while stock lasts.
We wish you all a happy mining experience,
the Bitmain team
I am sorry but I won't be buying at those prices,
July 13, 2016, 07:37:17 AM
Like with every other good on the world, price will change with demand. High demand -> high price. Low demand -> low price.
Due to the fact, that the S9 is the only efficient miner available to the public, Bitmain can set whatever price they want. No reason to blame them for that.
Due to the fact, that the S9 is the only efficient miner available to the public, Bitmain can set whatever price they want. No reason to blame them for that.
You could always GPU mine which has a (currently) much better ROI than a S9. How people don't see this baffles me.
There are also philosophical reasons to not GPU mine despite the potential for profits.
July 13, 2016, 06:50:54 AM
Like with every other good on the world, price will change with demand. High demand -> high price. Low demand -> low price.
Due to the fact, that the S9 is the only efficient miner available to the public, Bitmain can set whatever price they want. No reason to blame them for that.
Due to the fact, that the S9 is the only efficient miner available to the public, Bitmain can set whatever price they want. No reason to blame them for that.
You could always GPU mine which has a (currently) much better ROI than a S9. How people don't see this baffles me.
Because they're retarded???
According to some members on the forum, don't blame the greedy manufacturer, just blame the noobs and ignorants.
July 13, 2016, 06:31:47 AM
Like with every other good on the world, price will change with demand. High demand -> high price. Low demand -> low price.
Due to the fact, that the S9 is the only efficient miner available to the public, Bitmain can set whatever price they want. No reason to blame them for that.
Due to the fact, that the S9 is the only efficient miner available to the public, Bitmain can set whatever price they want. No reason to blame them for that.
You could always GPU mine which has a (currently) much better ROI than a S9. How people don't see this baffles me.
July 13, 2016, 02:36:37 AM
Like with every other good on the world, price will change with demand. High demand -> high price. Low demand -> low price.
Due to the fact, that the S9 is the only efficient miner available to the public, Bitmain can set whatever price they want. No reason to blame them for that.
Due to the fact, that the S9 is the only efficient miner available to the public, Bitmain can set whatever price they want. No reason to blame them for that.
July 13, 2016, 01:11:43 AM
Hello all,
We are releasing two new limited-edition batches of the Antminer S9 today (13 July 2016) at 16:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).
Batch 8 and batch 9 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively. They are ready to ship upon order confirmation.
We advise those who missed the previous batches to confirm their orders here (https://goo.gl/SNkLVb) for batch 8 or here (https://goo.gl/clxHhx) for batch 9 while stock lasts.
We wish you all a happy mining experience,
the Bitmain team
We are releasing two new limited-edition batches of the Antminer S9 today (13 July 2016) at 16:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).
Batch 8 and batch 9 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively. They are ready to ship upon order confirmation.
We advise those who missed the previous batches to confirm their orders here (https://goo.gl/SNkLVb) for batch 8 or here (https://goo.gl/clxHhx) for batch 9 while stock lasts.
We wish you all a happy mining experience,
the Bitmain team
Your prices are retarded.
Their prices are not retarded ! The people who buy them are retarded !
If the retarded ones would have not bought them at their ridiculous prices, they would have driven the prices down for sure !
But why would they let the price down if there are plenty of RETARDED that buy them ? Would you do that if you were them ? NO
July 13, 2016, 01:01:25 AM
Well, they could have made more sense...
I was OK when they had 60% of btc mining profits in S1 while I had 40%
I was OK when they had 80% in S3 and I had 20%
same S5 more or less
I was even OK when they had 100% profits in S7 and I had none
however, i am not OK for bitmain to have more than 100% mining profits where all miners together using their equipment to have losses.
Sorry, not playing this game!
I was OK when they had 60% of btc mining profits in S1 while I had 40%
I was OK when they had 80% in S3 and I had 20%
same S5 more or less
I was even OK when they had 100% profits in S7 and I had none
however, i am not OK for bitmain to have more than 100% mining profits where all miners together using their equipment to have losses.
Sorry, not playing this game!
July 13, 2016, 12:55:25 AM
Hello all,
We are releasing two new limited-edition batches of the Antminer S9 today (13 July 2016) at 16:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).
Batch 8 and batch 9 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively. They are ready to ship upon order confirmation.
We advise those who missed the previous batches to confirm their orders here (https://goo.gl/SNkLVb) for batch 8 or here (https://goo.gl/clxHhx) for batch 9 while stock lasts.
We wish you all a happy mining experience,
the Bitmain team
We are releasing two new limited-edition batches of the Antminer S9 today (13 July 2016) at 16:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).
Batch 8 and batch 9 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively. They are ready to ship upon order confirmation.
We advise those who missed the previous batches to confirm their orders here (https://goo.gl/SNkLVb) for batch 8 or here (https://goo.gl/clxHhx) for batch 9 while stock lasts.
We wish you all a happy mining experience,
the Bitmain team
Your prices are retarded.
you could use a better (less insensitive) descriptive of their prices, or should we all go back to name calling on your community?
July 13, 2016, 12:31:02 AM
Why would they do something that they have not done on the last three devices they have released? They NEVER mine at the advertised hashrate.
Last 3?
Most S5's mined at or better than at advertised hashrate.
Ditto the S5+ as I recall.
S7.... well, iffy on the early batches.
Last *2* have been an issue....
July 12, 2016, 11:58:48 PM
I figured him for a troll and/or jackass and have him ignored as well.
whatever you say shithack ,ah Missouri go get stuck in a tornado lol lol.
I have been pretty slammed at my "day job", and haven't had much of a chance to participate lately. Thankfully it looks like I got back in time for more uplifting, and professional dialog with folks here......
More to the point, the Bitmain S9 roll-out continues. Maybe they have gotten all the folks willing to pay $2000 for an S9, and want to find out who is willing to pay $1900+ for an S9?
July 12, 2016, 11:10:29 PM
Hello all,
We are releasing two new limited-edition batches of the Antminer S9 today (13 July 2016) at 16:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).
Batch 8 and batch 9 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively. They are ready to ship upon order confirmation.
We advise those who missed the previous batches to confirm their orders here (https://goo.gl/SNkLVb) for batch 8 or here (https://goo.gl/clxHhx) for batch 9 while stock lasts.
We wish you all a happy mining experience,
the Bitmain team
We are releasing two new limited-edition batches of the Antminer S9 today (13 July 2016) at 16:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).
Batch 8 and batch 9 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively. They are ready to ship upon order confirmation.
We advise those who missed the previous batches to confirm their orders here (https://goo.gl/SNkLVb) for batch 8 or here (https://goo.gl/clxHhx) for batch 9 while stock lasts.
We wish you all a happy mining experience,
the Bitmain team
July 12, 2016, 05:26:47 PM
Am I calculating this right for a single S9 miner....
$2075 for an S9
12.9TH hashrate using 1350W
Electric rate 13.111 cents per KWh in southeast Wisconsin
ROI for just the miner 365 days ( not including climate control electrical costs )
...
......
.........
............ If its a year til ROI, and it takes Bitmain LESS THAN a year to come out with a new model ( The time the S7 hit the market to the time the S9 was being sold was less than a year) ... individuals and farms will not be profitable at all .... the death of bitcoin mining it looks like... unless you have solar or renewable energy.
$2075 for an S9
12.9TH hashrate using 1350W
Electric rate 13.111 cents per KWh in southeast Wisconsin
ROI for just the miner 365 days ( not including climate control electrical costs )
...
......
.........
............ If its a year til ROI, and it takes Bitmain LESS THAN a year to come out with a new model ( The time the S7 hit the market to the time the S9 was being sold was less than a year) ... individuals and farms will not be profitable at all .... the death of bitcoin mining it looks like... unless you have solar or renewable energy.
New machines won't be coming out for another 2 years. There will be no more than 20% improvement on efficiency on the current machines. You have time to profit.
That doesn't mean they can't optimise the 16nm process somewhat. Bitmain put out, what, two? 28nm chips that each improved on the previous process. I'm sure we will see a chip revision with new hardware coming out sometime... how soon is the real question
But first, Bitmain has to fix the current S9's in production to bring them up to the advertised speed of 14+TH. Although, I have a funny feeling that Bitmain is cherry picking the 14+TH machines for their own farm and the sub-standard machines that failed quality control that have 11TH, 12TH etc... are simply sold as "Special Editions"
Why would they do something that they have not done on the last three devices they have released? They NEVER mine at the advertised hashrate.
July 12, 2016, 04:55:37 PM
You also have to ascribe an accurate decisional weight to the warranty from Bitmain. It's pretty much understood that they'll do as much as they can to deny all warranty claims, and if you read the not-so-fine print basically any feasible issue is not covered under the warranty. I would not consider a Bitmain warranty as a factor in any risk assessment. The few problems they will actually work with you on, once you factor in hassle, arguments, shipping to China and the associated revenue loss of extended downtime, it'd be cheaper to solve the problem with parts off eBay or something. If you happen to have a hashboard that fails without burning something (and therefore voiding warranty) might be a bit tricky, but what are the odds of that?
I noticed that each miner seems to have its own personality (frequency) that it runs most efficiently. You just have to find it and run it. The warranty is an issue that you are going to have to decide.
July 12, 2016, 04:50:59 PM
You also have to ascribe an accurate decisional weight to the warranty from Bitmain. It's pretty much understood that they'll do as much as they can to deny all warranty claims, and if you read the not-so-fine print basically any feasible issue is not covered under the warranty. I would not consider a Bitmain warranty as a factor in any risk assessment. The few problems they will actually work with you on, once you factor in hassle, arguments, shipping to China and the associated revenue loss of extended downtime, it'd be cheaper to solve the problem with parts off eBay or something. If you happen to have a hashboard that fails without burning something (and therefore voiding warranty) might be a bit tricky, but what are the odds of that?
July 12, 2016, 04:50:32 PM
I have an option to get a S9-B6, 11.85TH for a pretty decent price from someone I know.
My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?
The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?
I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)
Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!
Thanks!!
My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?
The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?
I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)
Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!
Thanks!!
I have 5 of these and so far they are running perfect. I'm running them at 550 I don't want to void my warranty. After warranty expires I'll flash the 12.93 firmware and give it a shot.
I agree on waiting as there voiding warranty currently is on a 2k or so miner. Wait the 90 day's it (hopefully) will be down where if something goes wrong it won't hurt as bad. But still not sure worth doing when you look at added speed vs possible loss.
If everything goes perfect yes getting some extra hash would be nice. But your risking a awful lot on your OC. I think ROIing in 90 day's is going to not happen to much unless bought in Fiat and big BTC jump in value. I know I need to run quite a bit longer then 90 day's so I think I will not be OC'ing S9's anytime soon. Just not worth the risk for me and with being in summer it's not the best time for me to OC personally.
I agree summer won't be the best time, fall should be coming when the warranty runs out.
July 12, 2016, 04:43:37 PM
I have an option to get a S9-B6, 11.85TH for a pretty decent price from someone I know.
My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?
The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?
I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)
Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!
Thanks!!
My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?
The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?
I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)
Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!
Thanks!!
I have 5 of these and so far they are running perfect. I'm running them at 550 I don't want to void my warranty. After warranty expires I'll flash the 12.93 firmware and give it a shot.
I agree on waiting as there voiding warranty currently is on a 2k or so miner. Wait the 90 day's it (hopefully) will be down where if something goes wrong it won't hurt as bad. But still not sure worth doing when you look at added speed vs possible loss.
If everything goes perfect yes getting some extra hash would be nice. But your risking a awful lot on your OC. I think ROIing in 90 day's is going to not happen to much unless bought in Fiat and big BTC jump in value. I know I need to run quite a bit longer then 90 day's so I think I will not be OC'ing S9's anytime soon. Just not worth the risk for me and with being in summer it's not the best time for me to OC personally.
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