Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 33. (Read 531164 times)
February 23, 2018, 01:38:01 PM
Has anyone here bought S9's from http://bitmainantminershop.us? If so what was your experience?
February 23, 2018, 07:31:11 AM
Whats the tactic here?
Dear Bitmain customers,
Thank you very much for your purchase of our March batch 3 of L3+. This email is to inform you that we will be sending you coupons with a value of USD140/- for each unit you have purchased. The coupons will be released within 3-5 business days and can be applied to new purchases of S9, L3+ and V9. Thank you for your continuous support and we look forward to receiving your orders soon.
Best regards,
The Bitmain team
Dear Bitmain customers,
Thank you very much for your purchase of our March batch 3 of L3+. This email is to inform you that we will be sending you coupons with a value of USD140/- for each unit you have purchased. The coupons will be released within 3-5 business days and can be applied to new purchases of S9, L3+ and V9. Thank you for your continuous support and we look forward to receiving your orders soon.
Best regards,
The Bitmain team
The tactic is that they are being nice since they lowered the current batch of L3+ price. This way, u buy at the same price as the current L3 Batch. I got a coupon for an miner I bought at higher price some time back too. They didnt have to do this.
February 23, 2018, 07:05:07 AM
Whats the tactic here?
Dear Bitmain customers,
Thank you very much for your purchase of our March batch 3 of L3+. This email is to inform you that we will be sending you coupons with a value of USD140/- for each unit you have purchased. The coupons will be released within 3-5 business days and can be applied to new purchases of S9, L3+ and V9. Thank you for your continuous support and we look forward to receiving your orders soon.
Best regards,
The Bitmain team
Dear Bitmain customers,
Thank you very much for your purchase of our March batch 3 of L3+. This email is to inform you that we will be sending you coupons with a value of USD140/- for each unit you have purchased. The coupons will be released within 3-5 business days and can be applied to new purchases of S9, L3+ and V9. Thank you for your continuous support and we look forward to receiving your orders soon.
Best regards,
The Bitmain team
February 22, 2018, 12:17:00 AM
I started mining LCC to HODL, not to sell. The lack of a market this early on in its development concerns me not. It could be argued that no market makes them cheap, just as much as no market makes them expensive.
Lets see how these turn out. Only time will tell.
In the meantime, I'm happy to give my miners to the project.
Lets see how these turn out. Only time will tell.
In the meantime, I'm happy to give my miners to the project.
Fair enough and I wish you luck. I am just very leery of this whole setup, althought BCash is still around so you may end up laughing all the way to your bank/wallet
I also have to give a big I told you so to the people who said I was wrong that folks would find a way to use SHA256 miners if BTC ever died!
I imagine yobit is waiting to make sure the chain is stable before letting deposits. They will probably open deposits within the next couple days. Devs seem to be active at working on the project and I expect LCC to be picked up by several other exchanges in the coming weeks. It just got listed on coin market cap today. Who knows what will happen to the price it's to early to tell. But right now this coin might have some legs and I am laughing at the people dumping their s9's on eBay for 2k and the guy that posted his elaborate chart about how the s9 will never roi.
February 21, 2018, 10:56:43 PM
I started mining LCC to HODL, not to sell. The lack of a market this early on in its development concerns me not. It could be argued that no market makes them cheap, just as much as no market makes them expensive.
Lets see how these turn out. Only time will tell.
In the meantime, I'm happy to give my miners to the project.
Lets see how these turn out. Only time will tell.
In the meantime, I'm happy to give my miners to the project.
Fair enough and I wish you luck. I am just very leery of this whole setup, althought BCash is still around so you may end up laughing all the way to your bank/wallet
I also have to give a big I told you so to the people who said I was wrong that folks would find a way to use SHA256 miners if BTC ever died!
February 21, 2018, 10:18:27 PM
With 2 x S9's I mined about 9 LCC during 24hrs.
So I took my own advice and threw 4 s9's towards mining LCC and after a 24hr pull I was able to get 32.5 LCC. Current price of LCC is $5.44 so each of my s9's are currently making $44.20 per day. With LCC slow block start the blocks are not even hitting their max of 250 LCC per block yet they are only up to about 175 per block right now. One of my units even hit a block of 159 LCC which would have been over $800 if I was solo mining. If LCC holds it's price it is currently much more profitable to mine then BTC.
It might show to be more profitable, but good luck selling it. YoBit's wallet is down so you cannot move any LCC to it to sell, luckily the price has rebounded somewhat. Who knows what the price will be once you can deposit LCC, and who knows if any good exchanges will pick it up.
February 21, 2018, 09:16:38 PM
With 2 x S9's I mined about 9 LCC during 24hrs.
So I took my own advice and threw 4 s9's towards mining LCC and after a 24hr pull I was able to get 32.5 LCC. Current price of LCC is $5.44 so each of my s9's are currently making $44.20 per day. With LCC slow block start the blocks are not even hitting their max of 250 LCC per block yet they are only up to about 175 per block right now. One of my units even hit a block of 159 LCC which would have been over $800 if I was solo mining. If LCC holds it's price it is currently much more profitable to mine then BTC.
February 21, 2018, 10:39:17 AM
With 2 x S9's I mined about 9 LCC during 24hrs.
Wow not so bad. I am not be able to create wallet on Yobit, said temporary off. How you get the wallet? downloaded and install to your PC?
I installed on my desktop using the link from their download page
https://litecoinca.sh/#download
I also downloaded the Bootstrap to speed up the wallet setup.
February 21, 2018, 08:29:18 AM
With 2 x S9's I mined about 9 LCC during 24hrs.
Wow not so bad. I am not be able to create wallet on Yobit, said temporary off. How you get the wallet? downloaded and install to your PC?
February 21, 2018, 07:10:41 AM
Could anyone assist with my problem please?
I've tried multiple times on all 3 of my S9's just delivered last week and there is no status in the status page.
I've tried resetting it to factory settings, but same problem.
I've tried multiple times on all 3 of my S9's just delivered last week and there is no status in the status page.
I've tried resetting it to factory settings, but same problem.
I am sorry for your troubles man. A little search lead to a whole thread which described your issue and different ways to solve it.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s9-no-data-in-miner-status-page-2615999
Hopefully it will help.
February 21, 2018, 07:04:58 AM
Could anyone assist with my problem please?
I've tried multiple times on all 3 of my S9's just delivered last week and there is no status in the status page.
I've tried resetting it to factory settings, but same problem.
https://s10.postimg.org/p42uv722h/bitmainfinal.png
I tried downgrading firmware too, but the is the system page, there is no bmminer version.
Also tried nicehash too.
https://s10.postimg.org/d27h18g15/vers.png
I've tried multiple times on all 3 of my S9's just delivered last week and there is no status in the status page.
I've tried resetting it to factory settings, but same problem.
https://s10.postimg.org/p42uv722h/bitmainfinal.png
I tried downgrading firmware too, but the is the system page, there is no bmminer version.
Also tried nicehash too.
https://s10.postimg.org/d27h18g15/vers.png
February 20, 2018, 06:39:14 PM
I pulled two S7's that had just retired out of storage and put them on LCC last night when Suprnova announced they had a pool open. In about 3 hours it will be 24 hours. So far I have 2.5 coins mined. Right now on Suprnova there are 609 workers mining. Suprnova shows a Pool Hashrate of 22,410 TH/s and a global of 110015 TH/s.
February 20, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
Just thinking about mining Litecoin Cash. How much we will get with this S9 13.5th?
I have been following this fork and it looks interesting. Supposedly it was created to give old bitcoin miners like s7's something to mine that would be profitable. Since the fork happened 2 days ago it has been mooning to over $9 as of now. But wallets are not available yet and therefore it can't be mined yet. But wallets should be ready shortly. There are only a couple of exchanges that support it at the moment like yobit and the only people that were able to sell it were litecoin holders on those exchanges when it forked and had LCC dropped into their accounts. I imagine when everyone is able to access their lcc and sell it the price will come down quite a bit. I'm just going off of memory from a form I read but I want to say someone calculated that they would be able to mine 26 LCC per day with about 60th but when everyone is able to mine the diff will jump a lot and price may come down a lot. Probably like the A3 did with siacoin. But it might be a good bet to mine it right now at least for a little bit. There's a thread on it here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annlcc-litecoin-cash-sha256-ltc-fork-block-1371111-101-claim-ratio-2876538
I don't know, but the show is about to start. This is a sha256 coin and it is mineable with all bitcoin miners. Since my last post it looks like wallets have been released and the coin is being mined. The price did slip a little bit to around $7 but looks very profitable at the moment. This could possibly cause bitcoin diff to plateau or even drop a little bit at least for the moment.
February 20, 2018, 04:04:51 PM
Just thinking about mining Litecoin Cash. How much we will get with this S9 13.5th?
I have been following this fork and it looks interesting. Supposedly it was created to give old bitcoin miners like s7's something to mine that would be profitable. Since the fork happened 2 days ago it has been mooning to over $9 as of now. But wallets are not available yet and therefore it can't be mined yet. But wallets should be ready shortly. There are only a couple of exchanges that support it at the moment like yobit and the only people that were able to sell it were litecoin holders on those exchanges when it forked and had LCC dropped into their accounts. I imagine when everyone is able to access their lcc and sell it the price will come down quite a bit. I'm just going off of memory from a form I read but I want to say someone calculated that they would be able to mine 26 LCC per day with about 60th but when everyone is able to mine the diff will jump a lot and price may come down a lot. Probably like the A3 did with siacoin. But it might be a good bet to mine it right now at least for a little bit. There's a thread on it here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annlcc-litecoin-cash-sha256-ltc-fork-block-1371111-101-claim-ratio-2876538
February 20, 2018, 03:04:05 PM
Just thinking about mining Litecoin Cash. How much we will get with this S9 13.5th?
I have been following this fork and it looks interesting. Supposedly it was created to give old bitcoin miners like s7's something to mine that would be profitable. Since the fork happened 2 days ago it has been mooning to over $9 as of now. But wallets are not available yet and therefore it can't be mined yet. But wallets should be ready shortly. There are only a couple of exchanges that support it at the moment like yobit and the only people that were able to sell it were litecoin holders on those exchanges when it forked and had LCC dropped into their accounts. I imagine when everyone is able to access their lcc and sell it the price will come down quite a bit. I'm just going off of memory from a form I read but I want to say someone calculated that they would be able to mine 26 LCC per day with about 60th but when everyone is able to mine the diff will jump a lot and price may come down a lot. Probably like the A3 did with siacoin. But it might be a good bet to mine it right now at least for a little bit. There's a thread on it here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annlcc-litecoin-cash-sha256-ltc-fork-block-1371111-101-claim-ratio-2876538
February 20, 2018, 07:03:46 AM
Just thinking about mining Litecoin Cash. How much we will get with this S9 13.5th?
February 20, 2018, 02:39:40 AM
I'm feeling like there should to come new "S9", like there was jump from S7 to S9...4th > 13-14TH... S9 is becoming obsolete..Unless you have free electricity...Or Bitcoin jumps...But you can't just wait for it to jump...Difficulty is increasing enormous speed...And new Dragonmint...is ONLY 2TH better then S9...We need crazy jump in tech again 
There won't be a big jump anytime soon. The reason we had a big jump form S7 to S9 was that S7 was using 28nm chipset in 2015. And in 2015 we already had commercial production of even up to 14nm. But right now S9 is using 16nm which is pretty much the bottleneck. The next step is 10nm and that is barely getting into commercial production today and when it does the foundries will be booked by giants like Apple and Samsung for some time. So S9 is here to stay for at-least another year or two.
you can increase the hashrate by liquid cooling, better design, etc etc. But won't be anything like the S7 to S9
This is incorrect. The ebang ebit has already been delivered, it's using 10nm chips from Samsung, but it's still only an 18T/Hs machine for around 5k USD, so it's not really the game changer I expected it to be.
Those are mostly just marketing BS. In terms of energy, the ebang machine is using .09J/GH +/- 10%. Which is only a %10 improvement over S9s. So the improvement is within their margin of error.
But even if we give them the benefit of the doubt. When you solve the equations for the ebang machine, at an optimistic rate, it will only earn 0.45BTC during its entire lifetime. (As oppposed to S9s 0.37BTC). That is the entire lifetime of the machine. Assuming the machine is operating with free electricity and is running until end of time. In reality the lifetime earning will be much less.
February 20, 2018, 01:06:30 AM
I'm feeling like there should to come new "S9", like there was jump from S7 to S9...4th > 13-14TH... S9 is becoming obsolete..Unless you have free electricity...Or Bitcoin jumps...But you can't just wait for it to jump...Difficulty is increasing enormous speed...And new Dragonmint...is ONLY 2TH better then S9...We need crazy jump in tech again
There won't be a big jump anytime soon. The reason we had a big jump form S7 to S9 was that S7 was using 28nm chipset in 2015. And in 2015 we already had commercial production of even up to 14nm. But right now S9 is using 16nm which is pretty much the bottleneck. The next step is 10nm and that is barely getting into commercial production today and when it does the foundries will be booked by giants like Apple and Samsung for some time. So S9 is here to stay for at-least another year or two.
you can increase the hashrate by liquid cooling, better design, etc etc. But won't be anything like the S7 to S9
This is incorrect. The ebang ebit has already been delivered, it's using 10nm chips from Samsung, but it's still only an 18T/Hs machine for around 5k USD, so it's not really the game changer I expected it to be.
February 19, 2018, 12:00:26 AM
price rise > diff rise s-9 is great
price rise = diff rise s-9 is good
price rise < diff rise s-9 is bad
the ratio varies
diff rise for 2017 336,899,000,000 to 1,931,136,000,000 = 5.73 to 1
diff rise for 2016 113,354,000,000 to 336,899,000,000 = 2.97 to 1
diff rise for 2015 43,971,000,000 to 113,354,000,000 = 2.57 to 1
diff rise for 2014 1,418,000,000 to 43,971,000,000 = 31.00 to 1 damn
diff rise for 2013 3,249,000 to 1,418,000,000 = 436.44 to 1 damn
diff rise for 2012
diff rise for 2011
diff rise for 2010
diff rise for 2009
price rise = diff rise s-9 is good
price rise < diff rise s-9 is bad
the ratio varies
diff rise for 2017 336,899,000,000 to 1,931,136,000,000 = 5.73 to 1
diff rise for 2016 113,354,000,000 to 336,899,000,000 = 2.97 to 1
diff rise for 2015 43,971,000,000 to 113,354,000,000 = 2.57 to 1
diff rise for 2014 1,418,000,000 to 43,971,000,000 = 31.00 to 1 damn
diff rise for 2013 3,249,000 to 1,418,000,000 = 436.44 to 1 damn
diff rise for 2012
diff rise for 2011
diff rise for 2010
diff rise for 2009
This is perfect. Thanks Phil. I had something similar to this in a spreadsheet.
i think the main reason for the massive hash rate increases were due to enterprise class ASIC centers going in worldwide. Of course every joe blow setting up his garage contributed some.
February 18, 2018, 03:00:50 PM
I read the article. And it's 13% per month difficulty is way off. The article stated difficulty doubling every 5-6 months. But in actuality, it more than doubled in under 3 months! I used the mining calculators in the last week of Nov. 2017. I took a snapshot of how much bitcoin an S9 makes and it was only 0.92 bitcoin back then. Today an S9 only makes 0.43 bitcoins. Regardless of the price of bitcoin, that's more than a 50% drop in under 3 months. If this continues an S9 won't make much bitcoins, but it can still be profitable if the price of bitcoin moves up exponentially. If the price stagnates, you can forget about making a profit even with so called "free electricity". If difficulty continues to shoot up exponentially, bitcoin mining will go the way of dash mining! So all cryptos designed this way will become unprofitable to mine eventually, once difficulty gets high enough.
Yeah
price rise > diff rise s-9 is great
price rise = diff rise s-9 is good
price rise < diff rise s-9 is bad
the ratio varies
diff rise for 2017 336,899,000,000 to 1,931,136,000,000 = 5.73 to 1
diff rise for 2016 113,354,000,000 to 336,899,000,000 = 2.97 to 1
diff rise for 2015 43,971,000,000 to 113,354,000,000 = 2.57 to 1
diff rise for 2014 1,418,000,000 to 43,971,000,000 = 31.00 to 1 damn
diff rise for 2013 3,249,000 to 1,418,000,000 = 436.44 to 1 damn
diff rise for 2012
diff rise for 2011
diff rise for 2010
diff rise for 2009
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