Topic: bitscalper anyone use this ? [PASSWORDS LEAKED] - page 13. (Read 40982 times)

well, sometimes mafia pretends to know more than what they are allowed to know, using coercive methods. I do see some patterns here.
Anyway, lately i was busy coding, had some personal issue, and still think there are things i won't share with you, because i don't feel i need to.
What it is clear now, is that we did not run away with the money, we are coders, very well grounded in the financial field, and we're developing more and more infrastructure. The facts are all against your theory Matthew. Even if you use fancy words. I hope you seriously reconsider your position in a few weeks when you see that everything is working smoothly, also contact me if you want to see a part of our codebase.

Exactly. This is all I am trying to say. Let's leave the drama out of this entire thing. Just, as a community, let's stop letting scammy businesses sell their FUD to us anymore.

Do not let this community suffer through another MyBitcoin. Let's kindly and quietly raise our standards and show these so called 'businesses' how it's done.

I took my (very small amount of) Bitcoins and withdrew them from Bitscalper.  It was a test run.

I think you guys should cut Bitscalper some slack.  If people want to be stupid and take the chance of losing a large amount, that's their prerogative.  Bitscalper has no obligation to share anything -- he simply won't have my business, that's all.

No one is forcing anything. Welcome to the free market.




2 weeks has passed. Several kind nudges were given, followed by flat out requests. You have yet to provide anything remotely considerable as proof. Furthermore, I would have loved to keep this between you and I and gave you ample time to consider (which you also agreed on) and warned you that if you cannot provide this evidence that you are not just a scammer that I would not support you and would actively voice my opinions on it as I feel bound to do (as you agreed on).


Nice try. No one has refused anything. We, myself and at least 12 others from the DCAO in separate conversations have been pleading with you to give some shred of recognizable proof and you have delayed, pretended your phone was not working, cited your fears of conspirators and the legal system, etc etc etc.

The "now this" part you're referring to is me kindly telling the community my own personal opinion of your risk-laden website. Do you have a problem with me voicing my opinion? Does the mafia often voice their opinion and ask for proof of things? I'm pretty sure the mafia would just break your kneecaps if you didn't let them in on any of your business endeavors. I have logs to prove that I have only tried to involve you in our endeavors, sharing much more than I should in fact. For someone who lives in a glass house you sure do throw a lot of stones.

Banks aren't anonymous. Do you consider yourself a bank now?

Yes well, as I said both publicly and privately, I hope I am wrong about you as you seemed to be a very nice chap. The problem is, the business your running is anonymous and scammy.


I'll say this again:

Do not let this community suffer through another MyBitcoin. Let's kindly and quietly raise our standards and show these so called 'businesses' how it's done.

This is your translation, because you think i'm a scammer. Operations did not go beyond that yet, and we plan to move out from the country within a short timespan.

Translation: Don't take out all your coins or I will be found out!

What are you going to do when MTGox reports your $10K+ operations on your income taxes? If you are so concerned about remaining anonymous then the verification at MTGox goes against that.

I'm verified with mtgox of course. You are just diffusing panic.

Now considerably diminished after matthew diffused panic, the fund topped at 4k bitcoin on some days.

Another point to consider; If the site owner is so concerned about being anonymous with the volume he claims he would have had to verify at MTGox and other exchanges. Their AML policies are pretty strict and its very easy to trigger a verification. Anonymous in this type of business only means that he is taking your money. If anyone has money in here I would advise to get it out immediately.

A few hundred thousand bitcoins you say? That would be very easy to pay out pretending to be making money. If you truly were trading with this volume at arbitrage there would be no difference in prices between the exchanges. I am sorry but I call bullshit.

One only needs to look at the market depth at Crypto X Change to see that there is no arbitrage going on there. Last night for example the highest bit was $4.90 which is a huge opportunity. They accept MTGox codes directly so this would work perfectly.

I am sorry folks but anything that sounds too good to be true usually is. I completely agree with Matthew in his 99% risk factor analysis of this site.

Well Matthew, you guys are free to do whatever you'd like to. If you still want, i can show you what we agreed before. Let me know.

Matthew, i do believe that you do not have any authority for asking our source codes. What i agreed with you was showing our codebase, with some of the sensitive parts removed. You refused and acted like a mafia boss by threating us of being shutdown, and now this. Do you go to your bank and ask for their trading algos ? i doubt so. Also, do you see that withdrawals are processing correctly? we are not a scam, and not running away. there are just a few  hundreds bitcoin in the fund now.

Vladimir Marchenko, a member of our organization put it best I think:

This doesn't prove anything other than that you've learned how to use a socket connection to a public exchange that offers a public API. Congratulations.


I have written a thread about BitScalper and I highly advise that everyone read it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitscalper-risk-level-61505

TL;DR:

Do not let this community suffer through another MyBitcoin. Let's kindly and quietly raise our standards and show these so called 'businesses' how it's done.

Sorry for taking long to update the thread. We've completed the migration of the trading engine to node.js. The new backend is now live and here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZUuokn8YoU you can see a video of the monitoring scripts in action. Everything is powered by node.js/socket.io and blazing fast. Profits should reflect the upgrade in performances as well, and we will be exiting the beta soon.

I did better than than that here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--61577

lol

1) Not sure if it is a scam or not.
2) It is like watching paint dry.
3) Cashed out for now with a small profit.
4) May come back later if it is still here.

Here is how I did:

I go with the assumption that all businesses are legit, but that there are risks doing business with any business.  For example, a disgruntled employee can steal their bitcon wallet, or their server host can crash leaving them inoperable.  Until they have a terms of service that outlines these risks then I won't do business with them.

If Bitcoin can be an open source project then so can businesses that use Bitcoin.

some new bits:

I just sent a small amount from MtGox to my BS account. It didnt show up in blockexplorer but was still balanced.
So its obvious that the BS account addresses are from a MtGox account(s).

Consequently:
They can work with the balance even without moving the "physical" coins from that address.
If and when the "physical" coins transferred to these addresses are moved has nothing to do with BS any more.

Therefore, I dont see the bitcoin-moving-behavior as suspicious any more.

This does not prove that BS is legit, but explains my biggest argument.

Of course it rises the question why BS didnt tell this some weeks ago? Seems like they are not as knowledgeable about the details of their project as I would wish..

edit:
And there are still several questions never answered by BS. For example, #358 "why does the payout % change with balance?"

Ente

Thank you for the insider-leads.
Interesting how many people have similar experiences with the whole topic.  Good thing those bits are collected here..
I only keep the small gainings I made in my BS account, to closely watch the stats and numbers..

Ente