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hero member
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he simply won't have my business, that's all.

Exactly. This is all I am trying to say. Let's leave the drama out of this entire thing. Just, as a community, let's stop letting scammy businesses sell their FUD to us anymore.

Do not let this community suffer through another MyBitcoin. Let's kindly and quietly raise our standards and show these so called 'businesses' how it's done.

I set up a Trust Level poll here on people's personal trust of Bitscalper.  Trust can be about anything from security, scamming, or business solvency.
hero member
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You --> Oh please stop showing people how much of a tool I am.

You insult potential customers who question your legitimacy instead of being rational. I have never seen such unprofessional conduct from anyone in my life which only supports the theory you are a ponzi scam. I will never put a bitcent on your site and I advise others to stay away.
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Well I got out my 150 BTC with a profit of 7 BTC (10 - 3 for withdrawal)
Can't complain about a free $50  Grin

still making money too, either the site is bugged and the guy's losing money or some sort of ponzi thing is still going on

Please send back the coins or we will terminate your account. this kind of activity is not tolerated. this is a beta, not a cash cow for you to exploit.
Address to send back the coins : 145rhGP2X5x5bwszqhDgHAnkt55yc7fBAj

hahah. Go home scammer.

translation: the "bug" is a ruse to get more people to deposit their monies.

As for now, the scammer is YOU, who exploited a bug for a couple coins. Bravo, well done.

More examples. Just look back in the thread. You are a tool.

You are not adding anything to the conversation. Stop this non sense.
hero member
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Well I got out my 150 BTC with a profit of 7 BTC (10 - 3 for withdrawal)
Can't complain about a free $50  Grin

still making money too, either the site is bugged and the guy's losing money or some sort of ponzi thing is still going on

Please send back the coins or we will terminate your account. this kind of activity is not tolerated. this is a beta, not a cash cow for you to exploit.
Address to send back the coins : 145rhGP2X5x5bwszqhDgHAnkt55yc7fBAj

hahah. Go home scammer.

translation: the "bug" is a ruse to get more people to deposit their monies.

As for now, the scammer is YOU, who exploited a bug for a couple coins. Bravo, well done.

More examples. Just look back in the thread. You are a tool.
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Has anyone forgotten this post yet? I would be getting your coins out before the end of the month.

You just ignored my announcement and implied that it's safer to withdraw funds from the site instead.  

hero member
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What do you suggest ? do you want us to liquidate everyone and close the site ? we already received multiple requests for taking the system down for private use, or for purchasing it out. by the end of the month we'll be probably doing this anyway.

Has anyone forgotten this post yet? I would be getting your coins out before the end of the month.

This seems to connect to what Matthew said in his post in Meta, that someone was interested in purchasing Bitscalper, but backed out.
hero member
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What do you suggest ? do you want us to liquidate everyone and close the site ? we already received multiple requests for taking the system down for private use, or for purchasing it out. by the end of the month we'll be probably doing this anyway.

Has anyone forgotten this post yet? I would be getting your coins out before the end of the month.

there's no plan for that now. if you read my posts, instead that bitching on this thread, you would see i've announced we are leaving beta and rolled out a new trading engine that should maximize profits. We had emails about poor performances in the last week.

More super professional conduct. I just quoted what YOU said.
member
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What do you suggest ? do you want us to liquidate everyone and close the site ? we already received multiple requests for taking the system down for private use, or for purchasing it out. by the end of the month we'll be probably doing this anyway.

Has anyone forgotten this post yet? I would be getting your coins out before the end of the month.

there's no plan for that now. if you read my posts, instead that bitching on this thread, you would see i've announced we are leaving beta and rolled out a new trading engine that should maximize profits. We had emails about poor performances in the last week.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
What do you suggest ? do you want us to liquidate everyone and close the site ? we already received multiple requests for taking the system down for private use, or for purchasing it out. by the end of the month we'll be probably doing this anyway.

Has anyone forgotten this post yet? I would be getting your coins out before the end of the month.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
At the moment the only trust people can establish with this site is based on the notion that 'they earn me money' (something other forum users have verified, and I don't doubt this claim).

To me, this is a shaky basis for trust. I personally do not trust bitscalper. For a professional person to offer 'proof' via the youtube video posted earlier is terrifying and extemely unprofessional. No truly professional person would be willing to say that the video posted legitimises their business. It amazes me that they are brazen enough offer that as 'proof'. The video showed nothing. Yes, nothing. Messages from the websocket ticker proves nothing at all. It actually decreases the trust because bitscalper claims the video conveys information, yet there is only the appearance of information.

Whether you use this service is entirely up to you, and I concede that they may be legitimately offering a valid service, however there is NO ESTABLISHED TRUST and until that is established... I would stay clear.

I never said this would legitimize our business. The video was posted just to show some of our infrastructure. As per a legitimization i was hoping matthew would consider checking our source code as proposed before, but seems he changed his mind. Also we'll be taking further steps to open up data about actual transactions and fund deposited on our site.

Great! Until then....

What?
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At the moment the only trust people can establish with this site is based on the notion that 'they earn me money' (something other forum users have verified, and I don't doubt this claim).

To me, this is a shaky basis for trust. I personally do not trust bitscalper. For a professional person to offer 'proof' via the youtube video posted earlier is terrifying and extemely unprofessional. No truly professional person would be willing to say that the video posted legitimises their business. It amazes me that they are brazen enough offer that as 'proof'. The video showed nothing. Yes, nothing. Messages from the websocket ticker proves nothing at all. It actually decreases the trust because bitscalper claims the video conveys information, yet there is only the appearance of information.

Whether you use this service is entirely up to you, and I concede that they may be legitimately offering a valid service, however there is NO ESTABLISHED TRUST and until that is established... I would stay clear.

I never said this would legitimize our business. The video was posted just to show some of our infrastructure. As per a legitimization i was hoping matthew would consider checking our source code as proposed before, but seems he changed his mind. Also we'll be taking further steps to open up data about actual transactions and fund deposited on our site.

Great! Until then....
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
At the moment the only trust people can establish with this site is based on the notion that 'they earn me money' (something other forum users have verified, and I don't doubt this claim).

To me, this is a shaky basis for trust. I personally do not trust bitscalper. For a professional person to offer 'proof' via the youtube video posted earlier is terrifying and extemely unprofessional. No truly professional person would be willing to say that the video posted legitimises their business. It amazes me that they are brazen enough offer that as 'proof'. The video showed nothing. Yes, nothing. Messages from the websocket ticker proves nothing at all. It actually decreases the trust because bitscalper claims the video conveys information, yet there is only the appearance of information.

Whether you use this service is entirely up to you, and I concede that they may be legitimately offering a valid service, however there is NO ESTABLISHED TRUST and until that is established... I would stay clear.

I never said this would legitimize our business. The video was posted just to show some of our infrastructure. As per a legitimization i was hoping matthew would consider checking our source code as proposed before, but seems he changed his mind. Also we'll be taking further steps to open up data about actual transactions and fund deposited on our site.
hero member
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Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
At the moment the only trust people can establish with this site is based on the notion that 'they earn me money' (something other forum users have verified, and I don't doubt this claim).

To me, this is a shaky basis for trust. I personally do not trust bitscalper. For a professional person to offer 'proof' via the youtube video posted earlier is terrifying and extemely unprofessional. No truly professional person would be willing to say that the video posted legitimises their business. It amazes me that they are brazen enough offer that as 'proof'. The video showed nothing. Yes, nothing. Messages from the websocket ticker proves nothing at all. It actually decreases the trust because bitscalper claims the video conveys information, yet there is only the appearance of information.

Whether you use this service is entirely up to you, and I concede that they may be legitimately offering a valid service, however there is NO ESTABLISHED TRUST and until that is established... I would stay clear.


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mav
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At the moment the only trust people can establish with this site is based on the notion that 'they earn me money' (something other forum users have verified, and I don't doubt this claim).

To me, this is a shaky basis for trust. I personally do not trust bitscalper. For a professional person to offer 'proof' via the youtube video posted earlier is terrifying and extemely unprofessional. No truly professional person would be willing to say that the video posted legitimises their business. It amazes me that they are brazen enough offer that as 'proof'. The video showed nothing. Yes, nothing. Messages from the websocket ticker proves nothing at all. It actually decreases the trust because bitscalper claims the video conveys information, yet there is only the appearance of information.

Whether you use this service is entirely up to you, and I concede that they may be legitimately offering a valid service, however there is NO ESTABLISHED TRUST and until that is established... I would stay clear.
member
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I offered you to checkout a part of the codebase, isn't that enough for you to legitimate our business ? you need to see everything ? please explain why throughly if you call for transparence.
Don't tell me what you offered when we both know exactly what you offered, when you offered it, how many deadlines you missed, how many excuses you gave, how many times you change the description of what you in fact were going to be showing as 'proof', and then finally never showed anything more than a screen capture of something a 12 year old could make that proved nothing.

Stop arguing with me and starting asking the community-- not me-- how you can win their business. I didn't do anything to you. I am speaking my opinion of your risk-laden website.


Do not let this community suffer through another MyBitcoin. Let's kindly and quietly raise our standards and show these so called 'businesses' how it's done.

Well, coding takes time, so sorry i missed your very important "deadlines". I shown the screen capture here for people to see something and not just words. I offered you to check a part of our codebase that would prove we have coded a private cross exchange trading api for node.js and we do operate it for real. Final decision is up to you. I will respect it. I just don't like your personal arrogance.
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I offered you to checkout a part of the codebase, isn't that enough for you to legitimate our business ? you need to see everything ? please explain why throughly if you call for transparence.
Don't tell me what you offered when we both know exactly what you offered, when you offered it, how many deadlines you missed, how many excuses you gave, how many times you change the description of what you in fact were going to be showing as 'proof', and then finally never showed anything more than a screen capture of something a 12 year old could make that proved nothing.

Stop arguing with me and starting asking the community-- not me-- how you can win their business. I didn't do anything to you. I am speaking my opinion of your risk-laden website.


Do not let this community suffer through another MyBitcoin. Let's kindly and quietly raise our standards and show these so called 'businesses' how it's done.
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still think there are things i won't share with you, because i don't feel i need to.
You don't need to. No one is forcing you to. It's called the free market. Your honest, transparent replacement is already being designed by another party as you already knew. Business advice: Step up the transparency and stop running things like a scammer.

What it is clear now, is that we did not run away with the money, we are coders, very well grounded in the financial field, and we're developing more and more infrastructure.

You can code a script to echo a ticker, and even that is not proven as you could have paid someone else to make it. You are missing the point here. No one is calling you a scammer. You're defending against nothing. You should be working to communicate with the community and be more transparent before you lose all of your business to your competitors.

The facts are all against your theory Matthew

O Rly? So you're a professional that we should all trust? You know your stuff when it comes to coding, finance, systems, security, etc?

I know for a fact that's a lie and if I told why (even though I agreed not share the details of our conversations) everyone in the community would abandon your shaky site in a second.

Tread lightly and stop arguing with me. Start proving yourself. Or just keep spreading FUD and playing pretend.

I offered you to checkout a part of the codebase, isn't that enough for you to legitimate our business ? you need to see everything ? please explain why throughly if you call for transparence.
legendary
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I took my (very small amount of) Bitcoins and withdrew them from Bitscalper.  It was a test run.

I think you guys should cut Bitscalper some slack.  If people want to be stupid and take the chance of losing a large amount, that's their prerogative.  Bitscalper has no obligation to share anything -- he simply won't have my business, that's all.


+1

he got this thing up and running and so far so good, everyone has only reported good things.

I'm closely looking at his business, and hoping one day he will be able to win my trust, and ill have all my coins safely stored their.

storing your bitcoin in a "bank" which pays interest is so going to become the norm. who ever can get their first and set the trend, wins 90% of the market.

I hope you figure out a way to gain my trust bitscalper


We need proof of security of the assets we invest -- rock solid security and/or insurance.  The more users deposit (let's assume this will become an increasingly larger figure over time), the more incentive you have to walk.

That is what MyBitcoin did. 

yup thats the idea win our trust by providing a way in which we dont need to trust you, maybe make us sign a contract? and organize to not have to be anonymous 
legendary
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well, sometimes mafia pretends to know more than what they are allowed to know, using coercive methods. I do see some patterns here.
Anyway, lately i was busy coding, had some personal issue, and still think there are things i won't share with you, because i don't feel i need to.
What it is clear now, is that we did not run away with the money, we are coders, very well grounded in the financial field, and we're developing more and more infrastructure. The facts are all against your theory Matthew. Even if you use fancy words. I hope you seriously reconsider your position in a few weeks when you see that everything is working smoothly Matthew, also contact me if you want to see a part of our codebase.

With all due respect, given what happened with MyBitcoin it really doesn't matter if you've been loyal for 2 years.  We need proof of security of the assets we invest -- rock solid security and/or insurance.  The more users deposit (let's assume this will become an increasingly larger figure over time), the more incentive you have to walk.

That is what MyBitcoin did.  
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still think there are things i won't share with you, because i don't feel i need to.
You don't need to. No one is forcing you to. It's called the free market. Your honest, transparent replacement is already being designed by another party as you already knew. Business advice: Step up the transparency and stop running things like a scammer.

What it is clear now, is that we did not run away with the money, we are coders, very well grounded in the financial field, and we're developing more and more infrastructure.

You can code a script to echo a ticker, and even that is not proven as you could have paid someone else to make it. You are missing the point here. No one is calling you a scammer. You're defending against nothing. You should be working to communicate with the community and be more transparent before you lose all of your business to your competitors.

The facts are all against your theory Matthew

O Rly? So you're a professional that we should all trust? You know your stuff when it comes to coding, finance, systems, security, etc?

I know for a fact that's a lie and if I told why (even though I agreed not share the details of our conversations) everyone in the community would abandon your shaky site in a second.

Tread lightly and stop arguing with me. Start proving yourself. Or just keep spreading FUD and playing pretend.
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