Topic: bitstamp 18,000 bitcoins stolen? -confirmed - page 10. (Read 15061 times)
twitter maybe? https://twitter.com/nejc_kodric
We don't know if it's a hack or a technical problem, anyway.
I am trying to reach Nejc Kodrič, Bitstamp CEO, because if it's a hack, I may be able to help.
I did help a lot with the BTer's hack of 51M Nxt, and that experience may be profitable.
But I don't know how to contact him. Anyone has an idea?
I am trying to reach Nejc Kodrič, Bitstamp CEO, because if it's a hack, I may be able to help.
I did help a lot with the BTer's hack of 51M Nxt, and that experience may be profitable.
But I don't know how to contact him. Anyone has an idea?
Still all talk and no proof. We have address signing, time to make use of it.
Unless it's 100% clear what happened and what parts of the system were compromised, I don't think it's a particularly good idea to load the cold private keys onto any electronical system (and, so, make
them hot) just to sign a message and calm people down. That the cold private keys remain private
is the most important thing now.
You don't have to load your private keys to an online system in order to sign a message for an address. You could just as well sign that message on a computer not connected to the Internet whatsoever and then just publish the message, the address, and the according signature.
smartphone of the cleaning lady) until it's 100% cleared up what happened. They could buy a new computer in a local shop, take out the
wifi module and then do all the signing by hand and later destroy the computer. That would be ok. But I still think the marginal benefit simply
doesn't justify the risks involved with loading the privkey to any computer at this moment.
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I guess thieves would mix the coins then sit on them for a while.
A big dump after a security breach would looks very suspicious and they risk having their funds frozen before they can withdraw
A big dump after a security breach would looks very suspicious and they risk having their funds frozen before they can withdraw
Wow,
Could this be the reason for the dump? The thieves want to convert to fiat as quickly as possible, they clearly dont wanna be caught with their pants down! Stuff of pot boilers but just may be true. Just maybe Bitstamp is also playing a game here, after the great Gox debacle, this would have to rank as the next big heist in BTC history. Ofc this is excluding the greatest robbery ever - USMS stealing SR bitcoins!
Could this be the reason for the dump? The thieves want to convert to fiat as quickly as possible, they clearly dont wanna be caught with their pants down! Stuff of pot boilers but just may be true. Just maybe Bitstamp is also playing a game here, after the great Gox debacle, this would have to rank as the next big heist in BTC history. Ofc this is excluding the greatest robbery ever - USMS stealing SR bitcoins!
If the address with 18k BTC is indeed an address held by the attacker, then they definitely haven't dumped the coins yet. How could they? At least the price-decline over the past few days didn't have jack to do with this incident.
not good, not good at all
bitstamp do appear a very professional exchange though, so am sure anyone with losses will get reimbursed
wondering if hackers will sit on coins or immediately dump, as that will crash price further
bitstamp do appear a very professional exchange though, so am sure anyone with losses will get reimbursed
wondering if hackers will sit on coins or immediately dump, as that will crash price further
"the bulk" meaning some coins are indeed missing.
so it is confirmed.
0.1 btc fee is huge for any transaction.
also, I noticed that only addresses who had bitcoins deposited in the last 24 h are on the list. so I guess those addresses were compromised.
Wow,
Could this be the reason for the dump? The thieves want to convert to fiat as quickly as possible, they clearly dont wanna be caught with their pants down! Stuff of pot boilers but just may be true. Just maybe Bitstamp is also playing a game here, after the great Gox debacle, this would have to rank as the next big heist in BTC history. Ofc this is excluding the greatest robbery ever - USMS stealing SR bitcoins!
Could this be the reason for the dump? The thieves want to convert to fiat as quickly as possible, they clearly dont wanna be caught with their pants down! Stuff of pot boilers but just may be true. Just maybe Bitstamp is also playing a game here, after the great Gox debacle, this would have to rank as the next big heist in BTC history. Ofc this is excluding the greatest robbery ever - USMS stealing SR bitcoins!
Still all talk and no proof. We have address signing, time to make use of it.
Unless it's 100% clear what happened and what parts of the system were compromised, I don't think it's a particularly good idea to load the cold private keys onto any electronical system (and, so, make
them hot) just to sign a message and calm people down. That the cold private keys remain private
is the most important thing now.
You don't have to load your private keys to an online system in order to sign a message for an address. You could just as well sign that message on a computer not connected to the Internet whatsoever and then just publish the message, the address, and the according signature.
not true.
the fees have nothing to do with the number of coins.
With size of transaction, many addresses -> large size.
no panic dude, that address was collecting bitcoins from compromised bitstamp addresses for 24 h.
Maybe a typo then or just generosity, either way it says nothing about who the wallet's owner is.
well, we do know that stamp uses standard fees 0.0001 when moving coins.
here we have some transactions with 0.55, 1 BTC, 0.1 BTC fees.
You can't use standard fees when moving that many coins from that many addresses in one go
Gonna take too much time to confirm
not true.
the fees have nothing to do with the number of coins.
You can't use standard fees when moving that many coins from that many addresses in one go
no panic dude, that address was collecting bitcoins from compromised bitstamp addresses for 24 h.
Maybe a typo then or just generosity, either way it says nothing about who the wallet's owner is.
well, we do know that stamp uses standard fees 0.0001 when moving coins.
here we have some transactions with 0.55, 1 BTC, 0.1 BTC fees.
You can't use standard fees when moving that many coins from that many addresses in one go
Gonna take too much time to confirm
no panic dude, that address was collecting bitcoins from compromised bitstamp addresses for 24 h.
Maybe a typo then or just generosity, either way it says nothing about who the wallet's owner is.
well, we do know that stamp uses standard fees 0.0001 when moving coins.
here we have some transactions with 0.55, 1 BTC, 0.1 BTC fees.
no panic dude, that address was collecting bitcoins from compromised bitstamp addresses for 24 h.
Maybe a typo then or just generosity, either way it says nothing about who the wallet's owner is.
Still all talk and no proof. We have address signing, time to make use of it.
Unless it's 100% clear what happened and what parts of the system were compromised, I don't think it's a particularly good idea to load the cold private keys onto any electronical system (and, so, make
them hot) just to sign a message and calm people down. That the cold private keys remain private
is the most important thing now.
Someone posted this address in a comment on some article. He said that was the address where his bitcoins were sent to. from his bitstamp address. (something like that).
1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
So thief as 18,000 bitcoins from the alleged theft of bitcoins from bitstamp?
Is this true or not?
Article:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-reports-hot-wallet-issue-tells-customers-not-deposit-bitcoin/
1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
So thief as 18,000 bitcoins from the alleged theft of bitcoins from bitstamp?
Is this true or not?
Article:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-reports-hot-wallet-issue-tells-customers-not-deposit-bitcoin/
That's a cold storage address of bitstamp.
They started to move coins as soon as they found the hack.
They moved the last coins as soon as they closed the website.
That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
timestamps of the transactions match perfectly with the attack
huge and non standard miner fees
That's not proof. Stamp could have set high fees also to move those coins as quickly as possible after they discovered the breach.
1) Bitstamp are being stupid
2) Bitstamp were hacked by someone stupid
Well, that's encouraging.
Well people generally act stupid in a state of panic. A wallet breach sure must have sent Stamp owners' heart rates to new all time highs.
no panic dude, that address was collecting bitcoins from compromised bitstamp addresses for 24 h.
That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
timestamps of the transactions match perfectly with the attack
huge and non standard miner fees
That's not proof. Stamp could have set high fees also to move those coins as quickly as possible after they discovered the breach.
1) Bitstamp are being stupid
2) Bitstamp were hacked by someone stupid
Well, that's encouraging.
Well people generally act stupid in a state of panic. A wallet breach sure must have sent Stamp owners' heart rates to new all time highs.
That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
timestamps of the transactions match perfectly with the attack
huge and non standard miner fees
That's not proof. Stamp could have set high fees also to move those coins as quickly as possible after they discovered the breach.
no. coins will not move any faster if you put 1 btc fee.
someone was generous with the fees.
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