bitstamp 18,000 bitcoins stolen? -confirmed - page 9.

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Quote from: p4n on January 05, 2015, 10:16:57 AM

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https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

timestamp of the last trascaction -> 10:12.

bitstamp down from 10:12.

so they sent the funds to cold storage. And there is no issue I am hoping.

the question here is whose cold storage is that.

They stopped with deposits 3h before last transaction...

doesnt mean anything really, because someone could have sent his coins to the stamp's hacked hot wallet addresses.

in fact, I will send 1 satoshie to my old stamp address right about now just for fun.

To tarmi : Some new transactions can be seen on the "Hack" address. Could you see if some of these satoshis come from your address?

no.

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Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 11:29:17 AM

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Quote from: stonehedge on January 05, 2015, 10:49:26 AM

Bad and sad news.

Hopefully 2FA will be incorporated into Bitcoin at protocol level if it proves to be a success for Darkcoin.

Imagine that...stolen coins unspendable...

That's what multisig is for...

There was a story about a dark market silk road successor site that was busted, but the feds could not get users bitcoins because the site used multisig. If a dodgy website like that can use multisig why can't the legit exchanges? They could at least offer it as optional.

Clearly profits outweigh security. It's all speculation at this point and there is a serious lack of information, but my guess is someone screwed up some code somewhere that was creating the hotwallet key pairs and they didn't realize until it was too late which is why they cannot honor any transactions sent to those addresses.

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Quote from: freebit13 on January 05, 2015, 11:25:48 AM

Quote from: stonehedge on January 05, 2015, 10:49:26 AM

Bad and sad news.

Hopefully 2FA will be incorporated into Bitcoin at protocol level if it proves to be a success for Darkcoin.

Imagine that...stolen coins unspendable...

That's what multisig is for...

There was a story about a dark market silk road successor site that was busted, but the feds could not get users bitcoins because the site used multisig. If a dodgy website like that can use multisig why can't the legit exchanges? They could at least offer it as optional.

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Quote from: stonehedge on January 05, 2015, 10:49:26 AM

Bad and sad news.

Hopefully 2FA will be incorporated into Bitcoin at protocol level if it proves to be a success for Darkcoin.

Imagine that...stolen coins unspendable...

That's what multisig is for...

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Quote from: stonehedge on January 05, 2015, 10:49:26 AM

Bad and sad news.

Hopefully 2FA will be incorporated into Bitcoin at protocol level if it proves to be a success for Darkcoin.

Imagine that...stolen coins unspendable...

That wouldn't have helped here. It was Bitstamp's hot wallet that was compromised, the main reason to have a hot wallet is to be able to automate transactions. If 2FA was enabled, they'd either have to manually approve each transaction, which defeats the point of having a hot wallet, or automate that part too, which would negate the benefits of 2FA.

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It might put peoples mind at ease if they state how much they have in cold storage, and they should have an idea of how much was stolen.

DoM P

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Quote from: wpalczynski on January 05, 2015, 11:09:04 AM

The lack of clear and timely communication from Bitstamp is disconcerting.

When techs are at work, there's not much more to say than "We got it covered, working 100% on it, will keep you informed asap"

And that's basically what they said...

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Quote from: wpalczynski on January 05, 2015, 11:09:04 AM

The lack of clear and timely communication from Bitstamp is disconcerting.

I agree but sometimes it is necessary if you have been attacked or are still under attack. Law enforcement could be involved. There are all kinds of reasons why they might want to keep quiet for now.

Better to speak occasionally and accurately than regularly and speculate.

wpalczynski

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The lack of clear and timely communication from Bitstamp is disconcerting.

stonehedge

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Bad and sad news.

Hopefully 2FA will be incorporated into Bitcoin at protocol level if it proves to be a success for Darkcoin.

Imagine that...stolen coins unspendable...

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hope that's bitstamp's cold wallet address.

DoM P

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Quote from: marvinrouge on January 05, 2015, 09:56:06 AM

twitter maybe? https://twitter.com/nejc_kodric

He is not one of ma followers, so I can't send him a DM (that probably would get lost in the mass, I suspect people to be spamming his account...)

Quote from: coolmyrig on January 05, 2015, 09:58:54 AM

are you from China?

No, Switzerland. Why ?

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Quote from: derpinheimer on January 05, 2015, 10:01:49 AM

And this is why bitcoin is dropping. Totally insecure. Can't use it, only store it. Else its susceptible to hackers

So merchants cashing out, speculators, miners cashing out, normal market influence etc, have nothing to do with it.

Phew, luckily the world is extremely simple instead of complex!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_the_single_cause

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Quote from: tarmi on January 05, 2015, 06:34:28 AM

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Quote from: tarmi on January 05, 2015, 06:24:46 AM

Quote from: awais3344_1 on January 05, 2015, 06:22:42 AM

Quote from: tarmi on January 05, 2015, 06:20:19 AM

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

timestamp of the last trascaction -> 10:12.

bitstamp down from 10:12.

so they sent the funds to cold storage. And there is no issue I am hoping.

the question here is whose cold storage is that.

They stopped with deposits 3h before last transaction...

doesnt mean anything really, because someone could have sent his coins to the stamp's hacked hot wallet addresses.

in fact, I will send 1 satoshie to my old stamp address right about now just for fun.

To tarmi : Some new transactions can be seen on the "Hack" address. Could you see if some of these satoshis come from your address?

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Quote from: awais3344_1 on January 05, 2015, 05:42:47 AM

Someone posted this address in a comment on some article. He said that was the address where his bitcoins were sent to. from his bitstamp address. (something like that).

1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

So thief as 18,000 bitcoins from the alleged theft of bitcoins from bitstamp?

Is this true or not?

Article:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-reports-hot-wallet-issue-tells-customers-not-deposit-bitcoin/

Holy crap thats a ton of coins, customers are lucky bitstamp are very rich to cover the cost.

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Quote from: derpinheimer on January 05, 2015, 10:01:49 AM

And this is why bitcoin is dropping. Totally insecure. Can't use it, only store it. Else its susceptible to hackers

FUD. Bitcoin is not bitstamp. Saying Bitcoin is insecure is just ignorant.

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Quote from: awais3344_1 on January 05, 2015, 05:42:47 AM

Someone posted this address in a comment on some article. He said that was the address where his bitcoins were sent to. from his bitstamp address. (something like that). I

1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

So thief as 18,000 bitcoins from the alleged theft of bitcoins from bitstamp?

Is this true or not?

Article:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-reports-hot-wallet-issue-tells-customers-not-deposit-bitcoin/

Just to be clear, if bitcoins are stored on an exchange, they are not "his" coins, he is merely a creditor - an entry on their books.

No one should leave coins on exchanges - perhaps once an exchange is insured by a reputable company it will be different.

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And this is why bitcoin is dropping. Totally insecure. Can't use it, only store it. Else its susceptible to hackers

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This year did not start the best way to Bitcoin.

I hope it is settled.

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Quote from: DoM P on January 05, 2015, 09:24:58 AM

We don't know if it's a hack or a technical problem, anyway.

I am trying to reach Nejc Kodrič, Bitstamp CEO, because if it's a hack, I may be able to help.
I did help a lot with the BTer's hack of 51M Nxt, and that experience may be profitable.

But I don't know how to contact him. Anyone has an idea?

are you from China?

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