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Topic: bitstamp 18,000 bitcoins stolen? -confirmed - page 4. (Read 15061 times)

newbie
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Obviously someone faking it.

I just Googled the name and it belongs to a Senior Hezbollah member, who was killed in 2013
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dd7_1384692467

Of course that's a joke. How could anyone believe that for one second?
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
My dad works in the UK police departament where this guy owner of Bitstramp call an theft over 100$ so this mean that also cold wallet was stolen.

What I can gather from your post:

1. Your dad works in UK police department, but your username sounds Russian
2. Your dad busted BitStamp owner over a $100 theft (I was hoping this figure would be in Pounds instead of Dollars since it was UK)
3. You are saying that point #1 & 2 given true, there is high possibility that BitStamp's cold wallet was hacked.

I want to smoke what you're smoking.  Tongue

"Kaczynski" sounds more like a Polish name than a Russian one. The languages are very similar though.
sgk
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
!! HODL !!
Here is guy;

Quote
I want to sell my bitcoin.I will accept $4 million.
  Roll Eyes

http://pastebin.com/6Gc1Zh2g

Yeah, someone made a stupid joke Cheesy It would be particularly clever to sign with the
real name but use bitmessage.

Obviously someone faking it.

I just Googled the name and it belongs to a Senior Hezbollah member, who was killed in 2013
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dd7_1384692467
sgk
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
!! HODL !!
My dad works in the UK police departament where this guy owner of Bitstramp call an theft over 100$ so this mean that also cold wallet was stolen.

What I can gather from your post:

1. Your dad works in UK police department, but your username sounds Russian
2. Your dad busted BitStamp owner over a $100 theft (I was hoping this figure would be in Pounds instead of Dollars since it was UK)
3. You are saying that point #1 & 2 given true, there is high possibility that BitStamp's cold wallet was hacked.

I want to smoke what you're smoking.  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
Here is guy;

Quote
I want to sell my bitcoin.I will accept $4 million.
 Roll Eyes

http://pastebin.com/6Gc1Zh2g

Yeah, someone made a stupid joke Cheesy It would be particularly clever to sign with the
real name but use bitmessage.

might be but bitcoin address seems to be real one....

He should at least sign a message from the address , something like that :

Code:
In *this moment I'm owning this address (1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf) and today is the *06-01-2015.


Or a better thing.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1012
Here is guy;

Quote
I want to sell my bitcoin.I will accept $4 million.
 Roll Eyes

http://pastebin.com/6Gc1Zh2g

Yeah, someone made a stupid joke Cheesy It would be particularly clever to sign with the
real name but use bitmessage.

might be but bitcoin address seems to be real one....
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0


It is a terrible image to bitStamp , the bitcoin as protocol is very fine ... The error/mistake is from the negligence of bitStamp.

True, Bitstamp is the one to blame and Bitcoin is a good protocol, but that is not what most people going to read. The people that are not on the forums and only get the highlights will read there was another theft of Bitcoins. Which is not the whole story with all the in and outs, but still it’s the truth. It’s more negative news.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 504
Here is guy;

Quote
I want to sell my bitcoin.I will accept $4 million.
  Roll Eyes

http://pastebin.com/6Gc1Zh2g

Yeah, someone made a stupid joke Cheesy It would be particularly clever to sign with the
real name but use bitmessage.
hero member
Activity: 697
Merit: 500
Here is guy;

Quote
I want to sell my bitcoin.I will accept $4 million.
  Roll Eyes

http://pastebin.com/6Gc1Zh2g
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
18k in a hot wallet is something to be ashamed off. No excuses for that. Terrible news for the image of Bitcoin as well. I read things from some guys like ‘they handled it professionally’. I have no idea what these guys are drinking every day, but it must be something bad.

I feel for the people that has money on that exchange, they must live in fear since the news of the hack started to spread out. When and if Stamp will be back online I suggest to all of them to withdraw all what they have from that exchange.

It is a terrible image to bitStamp , the bitcoin as protocol is very fine ... The error/mistake is from the negligence of bitStamp.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
18k in a hot wallet is something to be ashamed off. No excuses for that. Terrible news for the image of Bitcoin as well. I read things from some guys like ‘they handled it professionally’. I have no idea what these guys are drinking every day, but it must be something bad.

I feel for the people that has money on that exchange, they must live in fear since the news of the hack started to spread out. When and if Stamp will be back online I suggest to all of them to withdraw all what they have from that exchange.
hero member
Activity: 722
Merit: 500
My dad works in the UK police departament where this guy owner of Bitstramp call an theft over 100$ so this mean that also cold wallet was stolen.

yeah right, he should bust you for taking drugs Grin
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1002
My dad works in the UK police departament where this guy owner of Bitstramp call an theft over 100$ so this mean that also cold wallet was stolen.

So confused  Huh
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
Only if it was a small amount. Definitely not the whole 18,000 BTC. In the past 24 hours, DRK has had about 120 BTC volume. Trying to buy 18,000 BTC worth of DRK would drive up the price of DRK to insanely high levels and you'd probably exhaust all of the DRK that's sitting on the exchanges as well.

Actually, there would be a way:
If the guy sends 10 btc to account A on an exchange
He then buys 10 btc Worth of DRK.
Next he sends those DRK to a DRK wallet, the moves around a bit.
From thew last DRK wallet he sent to DRK to, he sends them to account B on an exchange
And puts his DRK for sale.
Back to account A. He send 10 more btc, and buy his own DRK from account B
And all over again.
But:
It takes a lot of time.
He could be caught going through the exchange...
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Ouch. Well, it seems to be confirmed:

"Bitstamp customers can rest assured that their bitcoins held with us as prior to temporary suspension of services on January 5th (at 9am UTC) are completely safe and will be honored in full.

On January 4th, some of Bitstamp’s operational wallets were compromised, resulting in a loss of less than 19,000 BTC. Upon learning of the breach, we immediately notified all customers that they should no longer make deposits to previously issued bitcoin deposit addresses. As an additional security measure, we suspended our systems while we fully investigate the incident and actively engage with law enforcement officials.

This breach represents a small fraction of Bitstamp’s total bitcoin reserves, the overwhelming majority of which are are held in secure offline cold storage systems. We would like to reassure all Bitstamp customers that their balances held prior to our temporary suspension of services will not be affected and will be honored in full.

We appreciate customers’ patience during this disruption of services. We are working to transfer a secure backup of the Bitstamp site onto a new safe environment and will be bringing this online in the coming days. Customers can stay informed via updates on our website, on Twitter (@Bitstamp) and through Bitstamp customer support at [email protected]."


Bitcoin is not hackable with the private key kept private.

Exchanges are hackable because of poor security and/or shitty passwords.

See where the weak link is?

When you send your stash to an exchange you risk losing it all. That is why Smart Contracts and Automated Transactions have been born. It will eliminate all exchanges once this goes mainstream.

Unfortunately, I think exchanges will continue to exist, whether we like it or not. Even if smart contracts and automated transactions are developed to the point where they can provide all of the functionality of centralized exchanges, there will always be the less technical people who prefer the simplicity and familiarity of centralized exchanges.

EDIT: Also, smart contracts and automated transactions won't solve the fiat problem too. As long as there are still people who want to buy bitcoins with fiat or sell bitcoins for fiat, some form of centralized exchange that deals with "real" money (e.g. dollars, pesos, yen, etc.) must exist.

If thieves can deposit loot in a wallet for all to see specially

marked LOOT and then calmly take their time withdrawing it

then bitcoin is doomed for sure

You really need to stop embarassing yourself here and go read an intro to what bitcoin is. If you still fail to understand why the funds can't and won't be "frozen", then go read again. And again. Then, when you understand at least something, come back to share your precious insight on whether or not bitcoin is doomed.

Technically, the funds can be "frozen". But doing so would require the cooperation of the devs and miners. Blacklisting of coins would also destroy the fungible nature of Bitcoin and most would agree that the repercussions of doing so would outweigh the benefits.

No you are wrong. The money is traceable right now but if the person sends it to an exchange and changes it to DRK and then send the DRK to himself its completely untraceable.



Only if it was a small amount. Definitely not the whole 18,000 BTC. In the past 24 hours, DRK has had about 120 BTC volume. Trying to buy 18,000 BTC worth of DRK would drive up the price of DRK to insanely high levels and you'd probably exhaust all of the DRK that's sitting on the exchanges as well.

No you are wrong. The money is traceable right now but if the person sends it to an exchange and changes it to DRK and then send the DRK to himself its completely untraceable.


Or he can just use a Bitcoin mixing service?

This would only work if the hacker mixed a tiny percentage of his funds. The more coins he tries to mix, the less effective it would be. Trying to mix the whole 18,000 BTC in one go would be impossible. 99.99 percent of the output would be tainted coins. The hacker would simply get his coins back mixed in with a tiny percentage of coins from others who were unlucky enough to use the same mixing service when he did.
sgk
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
!! HODL !!
No you are wrong. The money is traceable right now but if the person sends it to an exchange and changes it to DRK and then send the DRK to himself its completely untraceable.


Or he can just use a Bitcoin mixing service?

And BTW, there is no way an exchange can have 18000 BTC volume for DARK. Nobody buys/sells that many Dark.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
I got Satoshi's avatar!
Honestly its crazy why they would hold so much bitcoins in their hot wallet.

Its reasons like this why BTC is in the dumps because everybody is a crooks and steals from one another.
Looks like they usually kept BTC2000 in that wallet for operations, but more was swept into it just before it was cleared.... which looks like a bigger problem than just losing control of the keys to that one wallet...
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
No you are wrong. The money is traceable right now but if the person sends it to an exchange and changes it to DRK and then send the DRK to himself its completely untraceable.

legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1010
Borsche
If thieves can deposit loot in a wallet for all to see specially

marked LOOT and then calmly take their time withdrawing it

then bitcoin is doomed for sure

You really need to stop embarassing yourself here and go read an intro to what bitcoin is. If you still fail to understand why the funds can't and won't be "frozen", then go read again. And again. Then, when you understand at least something, come back to share your precious insight on whether or not bitcoin is doomed.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
Honestly its crazy why they would hold so much bitcoins in their hot wallet.

Its reasons like this why BTC is in the dumps because everybody is a crooks and steals from one another.
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