Topic: bitstamp 18,000 bitcoins stolen? -confirmed - page 11. (Read 15061 times)
Still all talk and no proof. We have address signing, time to make use of it.
twitter from Bitstamp's CEO
That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
timestamps of the transactions match perfectly with the attack
huge and non standard miner fees
That's not proof. Stamp could have set high fees also to move those coins as quickly as possible after they discovered the breach.
1) Bitstamp are being stupid
2) Bitstamp were hacked by someone stupid
Well, that's encouraging.
That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
timestamps of the transactions match perfectly with the attack
huge and non standard miner fees
That's not proof. Stamp could have set high fees also to move those coins as quickly as possible after they discovered the breach.
There is no proof either way, but last transactions on that address correspond to this:
"Customer deposits made prior to January 5th, 2015 9:00 UTC are fully covered by Bitstamp’s reserves. Deposits made to newly issued addresses provided after January 5th, 2015 9:00 UTC can be honored."
This could mean that transactions before Jan 5th 9:00 UTC are safe (this also explains high fees, they had to transfer from hot wallets to cold quickly).
But those after are lost and will be paid for by Bitstamp.
"Customer deposits made prior to January 5th, 2015 9:00 UTC are fully covered by Bitstamp’s reserves. Deposits made to newly issued addresses provided after January 5th, 2015 9:00 UTC can be honored."
This could mean that transactions before Jan 5th 9:00 UTC are safe (this also explains high fees, they had to transfer from hot wallets to cold quickly).
But those after are lost and will be paid for by Bitstamp.
That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
Real question is, where's the proof that Bitstamp holds them? We can't get the hacker to sign addresses, but Bitstamp could do it. That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
timestamps of the transactions match perfectly with the attack
huge and non standard miner fees
That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
There is none, also look my posts in this thread.
That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
Isn't that address is bitstamp cold wallet
They said they already moved all customer bitcoin to their cold wallet
Hope what i heard is true
They said they already moved all customer bitcoin to their cold wallet
Hope what i heard is true
Their cold wallet would hold A LOT more than 18,000 BTC.
If you trust the auditor, "Bitstamp proved its ownership of 183,497.40310794 BTC to Bitcoin developer Mike Hearn."
It seems this audit was end of Aug / Start of Sept 2014, if done around the same time as Huobi. But I can't see exactly when the audit was.
If this is a loss of some kind, then it is ~10% of all BTC Bitstamp had.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/wallet-breach-causes-bitcoin-exchange-bitstamp-to-temporarily-suspend-service/
The rumor machine hasn´t even bothered to shift to second gear
so it´s most likely just a storm in a teacup.
so it´s most likely just a storm in a teacup.
Someone posted this address in a comment on some article. He said that was the address where his bitcoins were sent to. from his bitstamp address. (something like that).
1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
So thief as 18,000 bitcoins from the alleged theft of bitcoins from bitstamp?
Is this true or not?
Article:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-reports-hot-wallet-issue-tells-customers-not-deposit-bitcoin/
1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
So thief as 18,000 bitcoins from the alleged theft of bitcoins from bitstamp?
Is this true or not?
Article:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-reports-hot-wallet-issue-tells-customers-not-deposit-bitcoin/
https://blockchain.info/address/1JoktQJhCzuCQkt3GnQ8Xddcq4mUgNyXEa ?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2re2pw/18864_coins_stolen_from_stamp_that_doesnt_look/
Another thread to follow about this subject:
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/bitstamp-in-trouble/
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/bitstamp-in-trouble/
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Customer deposits made prior to January 5th, 2015 9:00 UTC are fully covered by Bitstamp’s reserves.
This corresponds well with timestamp of last transactions for 18k address, so this seems to be Bitstamp cold storage.
no it doesnt. 2 more transactions after that.
So transactions sent in block 337581 (up to 9:00:15) could only have been received by 10:11:44
no. it doesnt work like that.
that transaction was included in block 337588.
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also I noticed random miner fees included with transactions. some transactions got random 0.1~0.5 btc fees, another one 1 btc!
https://blockchain.info/tx/07a78d55fc17a2809e031116e71ac63faa6c2ea9e29480b4fa59031683b506b8
someone was in a hurry.
All the transfers to that address have insanely high fees not just that transaction.
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no. it doesnt work like that.
that transaction was included in block 337588.
that transaction was included in block 337588.
They had to have been sent by 9:00 (337581 block) to source address, to be able to be sent (from source) to 18k address at block 337588.
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Customer deposits made prior to January 5th, 2015 9:00 UTC are fully covered by Bitstamp’s reserves.
This corresponds well with timestamp of last transactions for 18k address, so this seems to be Bitstamp cold storage.
no it doesnt. 2 more transactions after that.
So transactions sent in block 337581 (up to 9:00:15) could only have been received by 10:11:44
no. it doesnt work like that.
that transaction was included in block 337588.
...
also I noticed random miner fees included with transactions. some transactions got random 0.1~0.5 btc fees, another one 1 btc!
https://blockchain.info/tx/07a78d55fc17a2809e031116e71ac63faa6c2ea9e29480b4fa59031683b506b8
someone was in a hurry.
Bitstamp has been around for a while, this would look bad if it's true. Another piece of bad publicity for cryptocoin.
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