Topic: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OLD and LOCKED] - page 11. (Read 55593 times)

This whole thing is just absurd. Did anyone read the terms of escrow. Release of payment is against receipt (signing receipt) of goods. Nothing else. Door knocks there is Mr UPS man. You sign his wireless terminal, transmits electronically that the goods have been delivered even before your close your front door. You rush in side with heavy box of treasure, neatly lay it down on that cheap veneer coffee table of yours, open it up and ... its a box of bricks.  Now what?

Here you weird weird people, you can buy the same shitty branded silver bars for wait for it only 0.89 over spot. At least you have recourse if you really really want this crappy brand.

http://www.jmbullion.com/1-kilo-rmc-silver-bar/

Better still the conjob is in the shipping, I will let ebay explain it to you:


http://www.ebay.com/gds/Dos-and-Donts-of-Buying-a-Silver-Bar-/10000000177744575/g.html

Of course now shipping will be included now that it has been pointed out.

This so-called seller provides zero terms and conditions and explains what is for sale and how and what and where the so-called discounts apply. It's just some made up name on a forum with a with an unfinished website containing poached names and qualifications saying send me your money and I will send you this. Don't worry an OG from this forum will act as escrow. Once you signed for the package I get my monies.

Haven't you people learned anything?

You made that up. No where is it stated that the escrow decided to be paid in silver. A pure fabrication on your part. It is a gift and the deposit of the BTC is to cover the escrow fees.

Twice now it is stated thusly:

"Who is this escrow?

Well, I will let this person introduce himself shortly.

Many people want the Silver Kilo Bars, and it so happens that our escrow agent wants one as well...so we are sending him one to review and to keep as a gift"

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13163756


"On top of the 5 BTC, we have sent Og a Silver Kilo Bar as a gift."

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13145090

Secondly "proof of shipment" of what exactly? Pretend to customers even though the shipping date is before the escrow announcement. Or proof of shipping of something to the scheme owner here? Wherein he calls it simply "Customer Appreciation goods"

"Hello Community,

Quick update on Customer Appreciation goods currently in transit."

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13163259

He's muddling things up to make it look like the operation is a-go, goods being shipped out, escrow in place. You chiming in that the escrow

"and decided to be paid in silver."

which is a lie.

You kids are fucking around. Bad news for you is I did not have real interest in any of this bullshit other than come over after being swamped by a couple of lunatics on the Gaw thread, did a quick cursory read here and sticking out like a sore thumb are these multitudes of inconsistencies.

Now I have bookmarked this thread.

You mean to tell me that magic isn't for real? Now I have to reexamine my impression that Bewitched was a reality TV show. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnkHf069fvA

This is the concern I have with OgNasty's involvement; he's become a part of the confidence scam

is this shit down to 1sat yet?? shouldn't be long now bwuaaahahahaa.  GNSP.

I will sleep soundly at night.


Because I've seen your particular brand of fraudulent behavior in various forms on these forums throughout the years, and am concerned that OgNasty is lending his good reputation to such a disreputable venture.

Like I stated, caveat emptor.

I would say that is about the size of it all right. The sheer delusion displayed by Keith is astounding. It really does seem like he believes that there are a lot of people who don't view him as either an imbecile or a lunatic when they read his (and the totally not Keith Sock puppets'  ) posts "explaining" this operation.

If I were him I would be more worried about answering some investigator's inquiries. I can see it now. Pure brilliance in motion:

Investigator: Dr. Harville, could you please explain the financial model of the Bitstones operation and thus prove that there is a way to deliver what you are promising and perhaps thus exclude it from being a type of fraudulent Ponzi scam?

Kieth: "Derp!   Silver Bar!  LIARS!   B@ING,Boing,   BB@ooooiNG! I'll pay 20 BTC for the identity of you and your Posse!!!    Picasso!   Emeralds!   Imma gonna sell 10% below spot with Bitstones!!  zZZZoooom! That's it, you're on ignore mister! BadinBaDOOinGG!@$! >:(Innocent bystanders!     DErRRPP! Escrow!! Crimes Against Humanity!!   VRRROooooooo@@M! 46%%!#!$! Vroom!ZZZZoooooMM! "

Fucking hilarious.  

This fool doesn't get it. Got an answer for everything that is neither clever nor wise when expecting to conduct business or expecting to handle other people's money.

This guy keeps slithering around every time he gets caught. Says one thing, means another, when that is insufficient he's another meaning for the other. This is not a business man and this is not a serious operation, a get rich quick scheme fly by night operation. OG would be wise to divorce himself from all of this before it goes any further.

Hello,

Its considered a barter.

A trade off of trade.

Obviously no escrow is free and it should never be.

We deal with Gold, Silver, Diamonds, Gem, etc and Og deals with escrow.

It was more a gift than anything at first, but Og is acceptable with taking the Silver kilo bar and in return is giving us no fees on our escrow transactions for 2 months.

The 5 BTC is for the community's protection and his in case we were to flop on a deal.

The escrow is in place, and it will be used every time to protect both you the community and the BitStone team.

If you think we are "full of shit", go ahead and put us to the test by buying some BST and exchanging it for one of the items we have currently listed.

No need to go ham on the markets, we take BTC too...but would prefer some payment be in the form of BST.

The tracking info was posted to prove that the items posted by their "stock images" are items we truly plan to offer in return for BST...and that they're currently in transit and will be available for purchase when they are delivered.

It's basically us putting our own selves to the test, and giving the community something to hold on to as we start to mature into a legitimate community...we gotta start somewhere and its just that simple.

We aren't promising any price pegs, or promising any major investors...we are here trying to become a merchant/vendor middle man offering BST as a currency with some buying power within the fields we specialize in on a daily basis.

Continuing to quote Garza, complain about an old mockup website, and making shill accounts because we're ignoring you on your other accounts is unacceptable and for that reason, your new account will be ignored as well.

Take care,

BitStoneDev

Really wish that I could find a program that doesn't require me to compile, that's better at analysis of a block chain. Trying to perform analysis with crpytoID is almost impossible. Oh well, guess I'll go watch the football game, instead.

This guy is full of shit IMO.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13163756

"On top of the 5 BTC, we have sent Og a Silver Kilo Bar as a gift."

Before its a gift now its payment. Whole thing reeks of Garza. Unfinished websites with people's names who never agreed to be in them in the first place, half baked courier invoices as examples of what exactly? All nuanced bullshit in the making. Slithering around every time someone points out something that is off.

Steer clear of this nonsense people.

Lets keep this short.

You are losing respect with me, and I will be forced to add you to my ignore list.

Before I do so I wanted to come at you correct with an explanation of why I "paid" OgNasty with a Silver Kilo Bar.

ALL ESCROWS CHARGE A 1% or .01 BTC MINIMUM FOR THEIR ESCROW AGENT FEES!

Plain and simple partner, and for a person being around so long I figured you'd comprehend this.

Instead of paying the 1% FEES on $50-$1600 escrow'ed  transactions, we decided to pay OgNasty in Silver.

I mean come on, gold and silver will always be considered a form currency, and we have the right to use it as such.

It was a business move that made sense and will save us 1% fee for 60 days.

As we plan to be successful and bring in some sales...I'm sure the $405 in silver is well worth the expertise and credibility he brings to the operation.

Sorry if you think otherwise, but this isn't your coin or project...and it doesn't sound like you are an investor so why are you here?

Must get going,

BitStoneDev

Unfortunately, this entity redistributed the coins to multiple addresses.  It now would take much time and effort to find out where all the coins ended up. What I would like to know, is if Yobit stakes their coins. The address all the coins were in for a brief time, was a staking address. Bittrex has a policy of not staking their coins, so it probably wasn't them.

Edit: According to my inquiry that I made in the Yobit trollbox, it does not appear Yobit stakes their coins either. It appears someone had and may still have control of a substantial portion of this coin, and it's not one of the exchanges. Investors should take this into consideration before placing their bids. However, if this is an acceptable risk to you, invest away. 

LOL, of all things, you're concerned about a 51% attack when someone is holding 46%?  Smart.

The 46% bag is a bit concerning. For the health of the currency. 51% attack inevitable? Hopefully they will dump a bit to alleviate concern.

Ok, looks like things happened, so here is a revised list:

46% bag - still not explained and nobody seems to be worried
147 total active BST addresses, 50%+ coins in top 10 addresses
fake website - sort of - the front page redirects to Google now but the Team page is still up: http://bitstones.org/team.html - my offer of help still stands
secret escrow OgNasty is the escrow
business entity you're dealing with is unknown, no terms of service, conducts sales via PM on the forum
hilarious troll assault trying to make me into a "GAW fanboy" - great sign of a fully legit operation