My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe. Period.
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FTFY
Topic: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OLD and LOCKED] - page 10. (Read 55575 times)
December 07, 2015, 02:19:15 PM
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FTFY
December 07, 2015, 02:16:13 PM
It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.
My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe. Period.
My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe. Period.
... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.
December 07, 2015, 02:11:11 PM
I see. So you did not know that Bitstonedev was Dr. Keith Harville, and all of your dealings with his other sock puppet accounts- many of which he has positively identified- were simply with those other accounts and no mention or discussion about Bitstone ever occurred until these PMs that you are speaking of? Also, how is it that your first contact with Keith Harville, aka Bitstonedev, was made via PM? Did he just randomly pick you to contact after never having had contact with you before?
BitStoneDev has not identified himself to me as Dr. Keith Harville, nor do I care what his name is or what alts he uses. BitStoneDev did not reach out to me, I reached out to him. Another member of this forum mentioned BitStone in a PM asking if I would provide escrow for them, which I replied that I had no intention of providing escrow for an altcoin and then took a look at their thread. It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.
My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe. Period.
December 07, 2015, 01:39:48 PM
That was in April. Did Bitstonedev , aka Dr. Keith Harville , aka Whocarez, contact you then? How long have you known Dr. Keith Harville? Also, is this an address associated with you? 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS ?
Thank you for coming forward to explain your involvement with the Bitstone Operation, which appears to be a blatant fraud scam run by a proven liar, and I look forward to your reply.
Thank you for coming forward to explain your involvement with the Bitstone Operation, which appears to be a blatant fraud scam run by a proven liar, and I look forward to your reply.
Here is what I can be certain of. The first mention of BitStone in my private messages was ~ a week ago. I could find no communication with BitStoneDev prior to that. I initially turned them down as that is my standard reply to altcoins looking for an escrow agent. My first communication to BitStoneDev, regarding purchasing a silver bar, was made on December 2nd. It was at that time I understood they were looking for someone to escrow their goods and not their altcoin release. I then expressed an interest to get involved so that myself and others would be able to safely take advantage of their silver discount.
I have no involvement with the BitStone operation outside of escrowing purchases of their goods. I am not aware of anyone using the name Dr. Keith Harvile. I have no idea who owns the address 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS and it has no association with me.
I am merely offering my escrow services to buyers who would like to purchase their goods safely, the same as I do for most members of this forum who request it. The only difference is that I am offering it free of charge for the buyers in this case.
I see. So you did not know that Bitstonedev was Dr. Keith Harville, and all of your dealings with his other sock puppet accounts- many of which he has positively identified- were simply with those other accounts and no mention or discussion about Bitstone ever occurred until these PMs that you are speaking of? Also, how is it that your first contact with Keith Harville, aka Bitstonedev, was made via PM? Did he just randomly pick you to contact after never having had contact with you before?
December 07, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
That was in April. Did Bitstonedev , aka Dr. Keith Harville , aka Whocarez, contact you then? How long have you known Dr. Keith Harville? Also, is this an address associated with you? 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS ?
Thank you for coming forward to explain your involvement with the Bitstone Operation, which appears to be a blatant fraud scam run by a proven liar, and I look forward to your reply.
Thank you for coming forward to explain your involvement with the Bitstone Operation, which appears to be a blatant fraud scam run by a proven liar, and I look forward to your reply.
Here is what I can be certain of. The first mention of BitStone in my private messages was ~ a week ago. I could find no communication with BitStoneDev prior to that. I initially turned them (forum member asking for escrow) down as that is my standard reply to altcoins looking for an escrow agent. My first communication to BitStoneDev, regarding me purchasing a silver bar, was made on December 2nd. It was at that time I understood they were looking for someone to escrow their goods and not their altcoin release. I then expressed an interest to get involved so that myself and others would be able to safely take advantage of their silver discount.
I have no involvement with the BitStone operation outside of escrowing purchases of their goods. I am not aware of anyone using the name Dr. Keith Harvile. I have no idea who owns the address 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS and it has no association with me.
I am merely offering my escrow services to buyers who would like to purchase their goods safely, the same as I do for most members of this forum who request it. The only difference is that I am offering it free of charge for the buyers in this case.
December 07, 2015, 12:18:42 PM
Just jealous that you got dibs on that first kilo bar 
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.Well, I'm understanding why you attacked me now. Sure wasn't for altruistic reasons...
December 07, 2015, 11:09:00 AM
This is the concern I have with OgNasty's involvement; he's become a part of the confidence scam 
I reached out to them because I saw the post about buying a bar below spot price and I was interested in purchasing one for myself. I then saw that people were having concerns about an escrow, so I thought I would get involved to allow people to safely take advantage of their offer. My intent is to protect buyers of their products. If there are doubts about them, you would think my services would be particularly beneficial.
This sounds like a reasonable explanation of your involvement in what appears to be a blatant fraud scam. I do however question your assertion that you "reached out to them" just recently, when you have already been named by Dr. Keith Harville as being part of his brilliant plans to sell valuable commodities at below the price which they can be purchased for.
Here is what I think is the first mention of you by Dr. Kieth Harville:
I see no reason why selling products for less than you can purchase them will fail, that is the way it is always done- right? 
He senses the Gaw faithful are ready to be sheared yet again.
You know... until we see if he's jacking his prices up or not... I'm going to give him credit for really believing that he can pull that off. I consult and, when the bitcoin market is in the RIGHT mood, I do give a deduction for bitcoin payment. I've managed to get 5 people into routine bitcoin use that way. So, I count it as a win even if I only break even.
Right but you are talking about regular retail, correct? In the Gold/Silver business there is no huge markup to begin with where you can make discounts, and then he is saying he will undercut the Fair Market Value, which is what you can buy the products for to begin with - if you buy in large quantities. There is no such thing as "wholesale" in the Gold/Silver business, it costs what it costs. (yes, giant industrial purchases are slightly less, but that is Millions of dollars in purchases) I have been into Gold & Silver for a very long time (Thanks Hunt Brothers, you helped me buy my first car!) and I can tell you for sure that there simply is no way to do what he is suggesting. It would be easier for him to just send back more XPY than customers pay him and save all the fucking around buying inventory and shipping things. Seriously. This guy has some mental issues, hard to believe he is an actual M.D. . Might have something to do with his drug addiction, of course.
Me personally? I'm giving discounts on consulting.
Him? I think he really does think that the XPY will go up significantly and he's bought into the idea that the future increase will offset his current losses. I'm pretty sure anyone who's offering to sell gold already knows it isn't a retail type of market. Notice that he's not using spot prices? He probably has a local shop that can sell to him at a "FMV"-ish price and going to take a personal hit for 'the interim' until XPY shoots off to the moon.
I think its a bad business decision, but I've looked at some of the online links related to him and he's not going to have Mensa battering down his door any time soon... so, unjustified, idealistic belief in Paycoin is consistent with his past performance.
I think you are missing something regarding Gold/Silver pricing. Fair Market Value is what you can actually buy something for. Small purchases like a single gram of gold or a single ounce of Silver will run you maybe ~20% MAX over spot, and that is if you do not know how to shop around. In today's market you can buy locally for ~5% over spot prices for less than ~1,000ish and more like 2% over spot once you get up above that. Beyond that the discounts to approach actual spot are very gradual as the quantities go up exponentially. What WhoCares is saying is that he is going to sell at less than he can buy his inventory for, unless of course, he plans on saying "Fair Market Value" is WAAY above spot and then give a ~5-10% discount or such, which then he is just full of bullshit and what he is stating is pure lies.
I typically do not post here, but wanted to make it clear. If the Spot Price is $1200/oz for gold - and you see the price on APMEX etc is $1230/oz - you will be able to purchase it for $1170 on my site-- so that beats the Spot price and the FMV price from the major dealers/refiners- If you purchase a 1 ct diamond and the Rap price is $3000 and the FMV is 60% of Rap - then you will pay less than 60% of Rap--
So, continue to say what you will - the only person that looks ridiculous in this situation is you- because you obviously have no idea about Gold/Silver or Gems--
And to prove my point - I will personally invite someone respectable from BCT like OgNasty to check it out and make a purchase (with escrow) to shut you up- although that would probably not work either.
Lastly- You guys spend a bunch of time digging up dirt on people- Why is it that all of you hide behind your Usernames - I will venture a guess but most people already know the answer - because you are a coward
That was in April. Did Bitstonedev , aka Dr. Keith Harville , aka Whocarez, contact you then? How long have you known Dr. Keith Harville? Also, is this an address associated with you? 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS ?
Thank you for coming forward to explain your involvement with the Bitstone Operation, which appears to be a blatant fraud scam run by a proven liar, and I look forward to your reply.
December 07, 2015, 09:58:33 AM
LULZ at the "buy walls" now sitting on this piece of shit.
December 07, 2015, 09:27:45 AM
December 07, 2015, 05:32:57 AM
Hello Community,
As we stated in previous comments, the BitStone Team planned to host miners on a BTC mining pool of our choice to contribute to a forever going means of buy support.
This is beneficial for many reasons. These miners will take care of the 1% a month POS inflation along with continuous buy pressure as we set up support with the miners earnings on a day to day basis.
Yes, that is correct. The BitStone Team will post a daily update from what are Avalon 6 Miners are producing on a day to day basis, then use that BTC to fill the buy books on the exchange.
We feel over time the $30-$40 in BTC the 13TH +/- in Avalons mine per day will be a great benefit to the long term price stability we planned to have for BST.
Few shots of our miners in action on BitMinter as of right now:
See them for yourself as our worker name is "BitStoneFund"
https://bitminter.com/livestats/big
We also want to let the community know that we will be honoring a Holidays Savings Price Break for all BitStone Store Inventory.
For the rest of year we will be offering even more savings on our inventory and you can count on seeing more value given to the BitStone currency regardless of market price on exchanges.
Yes, that is right....more details on this soon.
Long day ahead of us tomorrow and will be signing off tonight.
Thanks,
BitStoneDev
As we stated in previous comments, the BitStone Team planned to host miners on a BTC mining pool of our choice to contribute to a forever going means of buy support.
This is beneficial for many reasons. These miners will take care of the 1% a month POS inflation along with continuous buy pressure as we set up support with the miners earnings on a day to day basis.
Yes, that is correct. The BitStone Team will post a daily update from what are Avalon 6 Miners are producing on a day to day basis, then use that BTC to fill the buy books on the exchange.
We feel over time the $30-$40 in BTC the 13TH +/- in Avalons mine per day will be a great benefit to the long term price stability we planned to have for BST.
Few shots of our miners in action on BitMinter as of right now:
See them for yourself as our worker name is "BitStoneFund"
https://bitminter.com/livestats/big
We also want to let the community know that we will be honoring a Holidays Savings Price Break for all BitStone Store Inventory.
For the rest of year we will be offering even more savings on our inventory and you can count on seeing more value given to the BitStone currency regardless of market price on exchanges.
Yes, that is right....more details on this soon.
Long day ahead of us tomorrow and will be signing off tonight.
Thanks,
BitStoneDev
December 07, 2015, 03:58:11 AM
This is the concern I have with OgNasty's involvement; he's become a part of the confidence scam
I reached out to them because I saw the post about buying a bar below spot price and I was interested in purchasing one for myself. I then saw that people were having concerns about an escrow, so I thought I would get involved to allow people to safely take advantage of their offer. My intent is to protect buyers of their products. If there are doubts about them, you would think my services would be particularly beneficial.
Thanks for your support OgNasty.
BitStoneDev
December 07, 2015, 03:50:11 AM
This is the concern I have with OgNasty's involvement; he's become a part of the confidence scam
I reached out to them because I saw the post about buying a bar below spot price and I was interested in purchasing one for myself. I then saw that people were having concerns about an escrow, so I thought I would get involved to allow people to safely take advantage of their offer. My intent is to protect buyers of their products. If there are doubts about them, you would think my services would be particularly beneficial.
Thanks for getting involved in this project. I hope it goes as planned, and with you as the escrow, I don't think people would be as concerned otherwise.
You have definitely earned your trust here for as long as I can remember
Just jealous that you got dibs on that first kilo bar
.Thanks!
December 07, 2015, 01:21:07 AM
This is the concern I have with OgNasty's involvement; he's become a part of the confidence scam
I reached out to them because I saw the post about buying a bar below spot price and I was interested in purchasing one for myself. I then saw that people were having concerns about an escrow, so I thought I would get involved to allow people to safely take advantage of their offer. My intent is to protect buyers of their products. If there are doubts about them, you would think my services would be particularly beneficial.That's all fine and dandy. For your sake, I hope they aren't going to abuse your gravitas, and make you a part of their confidence scam.
Be careful dude. You're about as OG as they come around here, and this causes me to raise an eyebrow
December 07, 2015, 12:45:54 AM
This is the concern I have with OgNasty's involvement; he's become a part of the confidence scam
I reached out to them because I saw the post about buying a bar below spot price and I was interested in purchasing one for myself. I then saw that people were having concerns about an escrow, so I thought I would get involved to allow people to safely take advantage of their offer. My intent is to protect buyers of their products. If there are doubts about them, you would think my services would be particularly beneficial.
December 06, 2015, 06:38:45 PM
Are you scared suchmoon? 
(I highly doubt it.)
(I highly doubt it.)
Trembling in my size 9 boots... oops I may have accidentally disclosed personally identifiable information.
December 06, 2015, 06:28:10 PM
Are you scared suchmoon?
(I highly doubt it.)
(I highly doubt it.)
December 06, 2015, 05:52:14 PM
I like the idea. So here it is. I will purchase 8,000 bst from the exchange and give it to the first person that provides the info about suchmoon and/or Paul Revere.
I will give 20,000 bst that i purchase from the exchange for the info on both. I will first put up a wall at a designated number on the exchange and then proceed to purchase the required amount, while they are being purchased I will leave them on the exchange so that people can verify they are in fact being purchased.
The person that has the info can use any reliable escrow they want and I will transfer the BST to the escrow. Once the info is passed to me I will be allowed 48 hours to verify it before escrow can release the BST. If it does not check out then escrow can proceed with giving the submitting person time to prove that it is.
It must be undeniable proof of the info.
Mods- I am not asking for any info that is not publicly available and I am not endorsing any type of criminal activity
I will give 20,000 bst that i purchase from the exchange for the info on both. I will first put up a wall at a designated number on the exchange and then proceed to purchase the required amount, while they are being purchased I will leave them on the exchange so that people can verify they are in fact being purchased.
The person that has the info can use any reliable escrow they want and I will transfer the BST to the escrow. Once the info is passed to me I will be allowed 48 hours to verify it before escrow can release the BST. If it does not check out then escrow can proceed with giving the submitting person time to prove that it is.
It must be undeniable proof of the info.
Mods- I am not asking for any info that is not publicly available and I am not endorsing any type of criminal activity
So you are giving a bounty to DOX suchmoon and PaulRevere?
? I thought that wasn't allowed on the forum??Side note: seeing the raging BS from the few sock puppet accounts is enjoyable. You do realize that people are gonna read this thread and run for the hills, correct? I've never seen such simple questions be skated around so much in my entire life. Instead of attacking the person who asked the question why don't you just answer it?
I think the point is that they are doing their best to AVOID paying out that bounty, moving goal posts and all.
AFAIK doxing on Bitcointalk is not against rules as long as the information is obtained from publicly available sources but that's a moot point in this case. The intent is to scare opponents off.
December 06, 2015, 05:43:52 PM
If not then you are not a potential customer, and you are not being solicited, and probably why you are on his ignore list.
Are you saying if I buy BST and become a customer then "Kieth" will start paying more attention to "customer concerns" as opposed to just questions from the general public? I find it extremely hard to believe but I'm open to doing an experiment. How much do you think I should buy?
Whatever the threshold to be a felony where you are if the Bitstone operation turns out to be a fraud scheme sounds like a good amount. Your Doxx payment should cover it and then some.
December 06, 2015, 05:40:47 PM
If not then you are not a potential customer, and you are not being solicited, and probably why you are on his ignore list.
Are you saying if I buy BST and become a customer then "Kieth" will start paying more attention to "customer concerns" as opposed to just questions from the general public? I find it extremely hard to believe but I'm open to doing an experiment. How much do you think I should buy?
December 06, 2015, 05:24:40 PM
I like the idea. So here it is. I will purchase 8,000 bst from the exchange and give it to the first person that provides the info about suchmoon and/or Paul Revere.
I will give 20,000 bst that i purchase from the exchange for the info on both. I will first put up a wall at a designated number on the exchange and then proceed to purchase the required amount, while they are being purchased I will leave them on the exchange so that people can verify they are in fact being purchased.
The person that has the info can use any reliable escrow they want and I will transfer the BST to the escrow. Once the info is passed to me I will be allowed 48 hours to verify it before escrow can release the BST. If it does not check out then escrow can proceed with giving the submitting person time to prove that it is.
It must be undeniable proof of the info.
Mods- I am not asking for any info that is not publicly available and I am not endorsing any type of criminal activity
I will give 20,000 bst that i purchase from the exchange for the info on both. I will first put up a wall at a designated number on the exchange and then proceed to purchase the required amount, while they are being purchased I will leave them on the exchange so that people can verify they are in fact being purchased.
The person that has the info can use any reliable escrow they want and I will transfer the BST to the escrow. Once the info is passed to me I will be allowed 48 hours to verify it before escrow can release the BST. If it does not check out then escrow can proceed with giving the submitting person time to prove that it is.
It must be undeniable proof of the info.
Mods- I am not asking for any info that is not publicly available and I am not endorsing any type of criminal activity
So you are giving a bounty to DOX suchmoon and PaulRevere?
? I thought that wasn't allowed on the forum??Side note: seeing the raging BS from the few sock puppet accounts is enjoyable. You do realize that people are gonna read this thread and run for the hills, correct? I've never seen such simple questions be skated around so much in my entire life. Instead of attacking the person who asked the question why don't you just answer it?
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