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Topic: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Blackjack, Roulette, 3 Card Poker, Slots and more! - page 27. (Read 82361 times)

legendary
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You don't consider card counting cheating? That's awesome! How many decks of cards are used in each game of blackjack?

I don't see how it can be considered cheating to play a game well.  A card counter just uses all the available information to decide how to play.  Seems like common sense to me.  It's not like he's sneaking a look at the deal's down card or anything underhand like that.

But since bitZino shuffles before every hand, the point is moot.
sr. member
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I just finished playing for about an hour. Played everything except video poker. Very clean setup there. Everything ran smoothly. I ended up for the night.

Good for you in making a profit. They must have forgotten to turn on the doom switch tonight because I finally had a winning session myself after a month of straight losses.

Lesson: go play tonight while the cards and dice are running hot!!
hero member
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I just finished playing for about an hour. Played everything except video poker. Very clean setup there. Everything ran smoothly. I ended up for the night. Probably won't go back because I'm not into playing house games. But if you ever get holdem going I'll definitely be back, because I know it will be high quality if it's like the rest of your site.

Good luck and keep up the good work!
full member
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Seems legit, only been using play money, cause otherwise I'll probably lose everything xD
hero member
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You don't consider card counting cheating? That's awesome! How many decks of cards are used in each game of blackjack?

Doogius answered this earlier:

They use 8 decks and shuffle before every hand.

You can see that 8 decks are used by opening up the 'provably fair' sub-window and counting the length of the "final shuffle" string.  Reading the "what is this?" link in the bottom right corner of that sub-window makes it clear that they shuffle before dealing every hand.

So basically, card counting is impossible? I can appreciate that.
legendary
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You don't consider card counting cheating? That's awesome! How many decks of cards are used in each game of blackjack?

Dooglus answered this earlier:

They use 8 decks and shuffle before every hand.

You can see that 8 decks are used by opening up the 'provably fair' sub-window and counting the length of the "final shuffle" string.  Reading the "what is this?" link in the bottom right corner of that sub-window makes it clear that they shuffle before dealing every hand.
hero member
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You don't consider card counting cheating? That's awesome! How many decks of cards are used in each game of blackjack?
legendary
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If I am not watching my balance, I might end up without enough at the table to double down or split.  Isn't a buy-in something I should be allowed to do at any point?

You can indeed add extra balance to the table at any time, even mid-hand. If you click on your balance (right above the "Split" button), you'll see a popup which allows you to add balance.

I wonder if there's a good way to make it more obvious that that is a click-able element. I was thinking of just adding a help bubble when the table is first created that informs the user that you can click there to add balance at any point...

i think that is fine, I guess what is throwing me off is that the button for DOUBLE is not enabled because of my insufficient balance.  If I'm new, I might think the game isn't allowing me to double down.

Perhaps the button should be enabled but if I click on it, it displays a message telling me that I need to click Buy In to add more funds in order to double down.
legendary
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We just pushed a bunch of fixes for all the issues you've been bringing up Dooglus. I also added another 0.25 BTC to your account to thank you for all the help you've provided us. This offer stands for anyone else too!

Thanks for the 250k uBTC.  Smiley

I thought I had found another bug - maybe one to keep to myself for a bit.  I got my balance up to 1.6 BTC, placed a largish bet on the roulette table, but then clicked 'cash out' before spinning the wheel.  My balance went to 1.85 BTC.  I figured you had accidentally added the placed-but-not-spun bet to my balance twice.

Then I checked the 'deposit' page and saw it was another thank you deposit.  Smiley

One issue this brought up for me was that the timestamp on the deposits is in UTC.  I thought UTC was 8 hours ahead of here, which would have made the 0.25 deposit just about 61 minutes ago, in which case I was wondering why you hadn't posted about it.  But I guess UTC is only 7 hours ahead of here, and you had made the 0.25 BTC deposit into my account before composing your post here.  What I'm trying to say is I'd like to see all timestamps in localtime, not UTC.  Maybe let me pick a timezone, or maybe trust that my browser knows what timezone I'm in, I don't really care which.
sr. member
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We just pushed a bunch of fixes for all the issues you've been bringing up Dooglus. I also added another 0.25 BTC to your account to thank you for all the help you've provided us. This offer stands for anyone else too!

Fixes include:

- Correctly calculate min-bet in Roulette
- Preserve bet per click in Roulette between page refreshes
- Fix annoyance with changing bet values in Roulette and Craps (Re: #msg1291626)

We're also keeping an eye out for issues with the deposit address not showing up and the page not correctly refreshing on browser restart in Chrom[e|ium]. We haven't been able to replicate these, but we will likely fix the deposit address issue when we roll out our redesigned Buy-in window UI.

We're also working on adding additional varieties of Video Poker and adding Three Card Poker.

Thanks for the feedback, everyone!
legendary
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dooglus,

You should consider a career as a software QA person.

Ew, that sounds like work.  Smiley

In other news, I found another annoyance.  I have a bet of 2000 on a red.  I want to change it to 2100, so I click the existing 2000 bet, click between the 2nd and 3rd digit of the 2000, moving the cursor there:



then hit backspace to delete the first 0:



and finally type '1' to insert a 1 where the first '0' used to be:



As you can see, hitting backspace moves the cursor to the end of the bet amount, so when I type '1' I end up with 2001 and not 2100.  Almost everything I do moves the cursor to the end of the text field, which is kind of annoying, and makes it hard to edit the bet amount.  It's easier to just delete it and type the whole new value from scratch.

Edit: I discovered I can change 2000 to 2100 by selecting the 1st '0' by dragging the mouse over it:



and then typing a '1':



It still moves the text cursor to the end of the amount, which looks weird, but at least now I can make single-digit changes without having to retype the whole amount.

Edit2: note that the "bet per click" box has none of these problems.  The cursor keys work correctly there, and I am free to edit the number in the manner to which I have become accustomed on every other site on the web.
hero member
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I am the one who knocks
dooglus,

You should consider a career as a software QA person.
sr. member
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This reminds me of an almost-certainly-unrelated issue, in which I thought my balance was incorrectly reported.

Almost a week ago when I was playing around with the bug that caused the buttons to become active a second or so after they visually appear to be active, my balance had been around 1230000, and I worked it up to 1280000 or so, but after experimenting with placing 5 of 6 "sixline" bets and a few "red" bets, my balance was back at 1230000.  I thought I was carefully using martingale betting, which means my balance will only go up, until I lose it all.  I tried reloading, but I still had 1230k chips.

I'm not sure where the 5k chips went.  It's probably operator error on my part, and so I was thinking I'd like to be able to request a history of my bets.  Maybe a simple text file download of all the bets I made between 2 specified date/time points would suffice.  Then I'd be able to see what I did wrong, or maybe that there's a bug on your end.

We are indeed planning on exposing an interface for downloading your hand history. In the meantime, you can email support, and we'll provide you with your history over a certain period of time.

It looks better in roulette now:

Good Smiley

What's going on here?  "Your bitcoin deposit address: Available balance".



It doesn't tell me my deposit address.

Clicking "Or play with play money" then "play with bitcoins" fixed the problem.

Thant is a strange one! I've never seen that happen before, but we'll be sure to keep an eye out for it and fix it if we can. Also, let me know if you find a way to replicate it.
legendary
Activity: 2940
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What's going on here?  "Your bitcoin deposit address: Available balance".



It doesn't tell me my deposit address.

Clicking "Or play with play money" then "play with bitcoins" fixed the problem.
legendary
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We are aware that the 'bet per click' value doesn't correctly persist on page reloads, and we're actually in the process of fixing that now.

However, the other numbers you saw are much more strange. I suspect that this has to do with how Chromium handles restoring pages after a restart. We make use of AJAX page updates, so it's possible that Chromium simply restores that page without accounting for the AJAX updates that occurred. I suspect that if you had tried to place a bet when it was in this state, our page would have showed you and "Out of Sync" alert, and forced a page refresh.

I suppose it's possible that the router hadn't managed to get an Internet connection when I tried to load the bitZino tab, and so it was unable to request the latest state.  I can't be sure.
legendary
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One of the 21600's won, winning 129600.  The win was displayed in a tiny almost-impossible-to-read font size:

You probably don't want to make the text too big in the case that there are other winning bets nearby, but when only one bet wins maybe you can afford to make the text bigger?

Good call! We've updated the style so that large wins and large wagers will be slightly wider and use a larger font. This is what we started doing in craps, but we hadn't adopted it to Roulette yet, so thanks for the heads-up!

It looks better in roulette now:

legendary
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Ah, thanks for your persistence in describing this! I have been able to replicate it now. This is indeed is a bug, which we'll fix shortly.

I thought you hadn't understood the first time I told you, so I told you again with pictures to back me up...  Smiley

However, the other numbers you saw are much more strange. I suspect that this has to do with how Chromium handles restoring pages after a restart.

This reminds me of an almost-certainly-unrelated issue, in which I thought my balance was incorrectly reported.

Almost a week ago when I was playing around with the bug that caused the buttons to become active a second or so after they visually appear to be active, my balance had been around 1230000, and I worked it up to 1280000 or so, but after experimenting with placing 5 of 6 "sixline" bets and a few "red" bets, my balance was back at 1230000.  I thought I was carefully using martingale betting, which means my balance will only go up, until I lose it all.  I tried reloading, but I still had 1230k chips.

I'm not sure where the 5k chips went.  It's probably operator error on my part, and so I was thinking I'd like to be able to request a history of my bets.  Maybe a simple text file download of all the bets I made between 2 specified date/time points would suffice.  Then I'd be able to see what I did wrong, or maybe that there's a bug on your end.
sr. member
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Keep up the great work Cheesy

Thanks Cheesy

Here's what I'm seeing:  a 1200 bet on 3rd 12 reduces my max bet on 36:

But the same bet on 1st row doesn't:

Is that something you know about and intend to happen?  That's what seems odd to me.

Ah, thanks for your persistence in describing this! I have been able to replicate it now. This is indeed is a bug, which we'll fix shortly.

We are treating the "[1st|2nd|3rd] 12" bets as other wages in that you can bet up to 10 BTC on them - however, we are erroneously counting bets on them against the individual number bets, which shouldn't be happening.

...

Notice the balance now shows the 0.25 BTC you gave me, and the in game balance is as I expected.  The 'bet per click' has been reset to 1 though.  It surprised me that the 'bet per click' could survive a cold boot without getting reset, but not a page refresh.

In summary, I was surprised to see the outdated numbers when I rebooted my laptop.

We are aware that the 'bet per click' value doesn't correctly persist on page reloads, and we're actually in the process of fixing that now.

However, the other numbers you saw are much more strange. I suspect that this has to do with how Chromium handles restoring pages after a restart. We make use of AJAX page updates, so it's possible that Chromium simply restores that page without accounting for the AJAX updates that occurred. I suspect that if you had tried to place a bet when it was in this state, our page would have showed you and "Out of Sync" alert, and forced a page refresh.

Nonetheless, I'll definitely be looking into this further. It would be ideal if we could get Chromium (and I'm sure Chrome) to behave more correctly when it restarts.
legendary
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I noticed something else yesterday but didn't have a chance to report it until now.

2 days ago I was playing and know for sure that my last bet was on red for 4567 chips.  My balance before was 1230000 and after was 1234567.  Easy numbers to remember.

I finished playing, shut off the generator (we don't have electricity here except from a gasoline powered generator) which killed the Internet connection, then watched movies on the laptop until the laptop battery was dead.

The next morning I fired the laptop back up.  It was completely dead, not just hibernated or suspended.  After cold booting, I ran Chromium.  It told me I had a bunch of tabs open when it shut down and would I like to restore them.  I clicked 'restore'.  One of the tabs was bitZino.  I was online at the time, and here's how the restored bitZino tab looked:



Note the "bet per click" is as I left it, at 4567 chips (I edit the bet amount in that box because the text is bigger there), but the balance is neither 1230000 nor 1234567.  It's a smaller value, from some time before my final bet of the day before.  Note also my balance in the top right is zero, even though you had added 0.25 BTC to my account overnight.

I immediately realised it was wrong, and hit the 'refresh' button in the browser.  It updated as follows:



Notice the balance now shows the 0.25 BTC you gave me, and the in game balance is as I expected.  The 'bet per click' has been reset to 1 though.  It surprised me that the 'bet per click' could survive a cold boot without getting reset, but not a page refresh.

In summary, I was surprised to see the outdated numbers when I rebooted my laptop.
legendary
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It seems weird to me that betting on '1st row' (betting on the 12 multiples of 3) doesn't count as a bet on number 3, but betting on '1st 12' *does* count as a bet on number 3.  They're both 12-number bets.  I guess you're not counting '1st 12' as an outer wager, whereas '1st row' is an outer wager?

This is not actually the case. The "Outer Wagers" includes both the row bets and the [1st|2nd|3rd] 12 bets.

Here's what I'm seeing:  a 1200 bet on 3rd 12 reduces my max bet on 36:



But the same bet on 1st row doesn't:



Is that something you know about and intend to happen?  That's what seems odd to me.

As always, thank you so much Dooglus! I've added another 0.25 BTC to your account to thank you for constantly helping to make bitZino a better site.

Thanks.  And you're welcome.
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