Topic: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Blackjack, Roulette, 3 Card Poker, Slots and more! - page 24. (Read 82361 times)

Also, where you write:


it would be useful if you could state how many confirmations are required in total.  My deposit has one confirmation now, so strictly speaking it's not "unconfirmed", but it's still showing up as such.

Oh, also after I deposited, the deposit didn't show up until I reloaded the page.  I don't know if it's possible to detect the deposit and update my balance on-screen in real time, or even just provide a button to click to check for new deposits (on any screen where you display my deposit address), but that would be useful.

That's all very cool.  I tried it out and it seems to work well.  I auto-registered, bookmarked the URL, used the URL to log in, deposited, played, added a username and password, and withdrew.

One small criticism I guess would be that at first glance it still looks like bitzino requires registration.  The "username/password" fields at the top, along with the "register" link makes it look like a traditional site where registration is compulsory, and so may still put off the lazy/casual player.  I don't have a clear picture of how it could be better, but thought I'd point it out anyway.  Other than that, I think this is a great improvement! 

Due to popular demand, we now support playing for real bitcoins without registering. Or, as we call it, Auto-Registering. When you go to sign up for a new bitZino account, you now have two options, either provide a username and password combination, or just click a button. This is what our registration page looks like now:



If choose the Auto-Register option, you can log back in to your bitZino account at any time by just visiting your personal login URL.

If you decide you want to add additional security to your account, you can always upgrade your auto-registered account's security by providing a username and password on your user settings page. Then, if you'd like, you can upgrade the security of your account even more by adding two-factor authentication.

We hope that this new registration option will make it even easier for new players to come and give us a try, while still providing maximum security for players that choose to be more secure.

Thanks for the info! We already have started work on this now, so it's good to know there will definitely be demand

Just to reiterate, here's another person impressed with being able to play without registation:

Sounds good.

Thanks for the feedback, both of you!

We definitely won't take away the option to register with a regular username/password combo. We will probably just add the additional ability to use a bookmarked URL as your security credentials.

I think we'll do something pretty similar to the instawallet approach, but we'll vary it slightly so that we still have a standard registration page, but on that page you have the option to either register the old fashioned way, or just bookmark a URL.

The cool thing about this model is that we'll also be able to allow people to upgrade their accounts to a username/password if they want additional security down the road. So, someone can get started really quickly with a small deposit, and then add on a password and possibly 2-factor auth to their account as they play more.

I would say it's a pretty bad one. People are using more and more devices - eg home PC, laptop, iPad, phone. Now of course you can use Chrome Sync or something, but the better way would be to have a guest AND registration option.

https://bitcoinvideopoker.com/ has an interesting take on this.  When you go there for the first time, they redirect you to a secret URL which you bookmark.  That URL then acts as your credentials - you don't need a username or password.  This is exactly the same scheme as is used by https://instawallet.org/.

Thanks for the info! We have been considering adding the ability to play for BTC without registering for a while, but we just haven't really seen any demand so we've been focusing on other features. Now that I see some real demand for this in the wild, I think we'll prioritize this. Thanks!

I was just playing on a different video poker site.  One of the other players asked in the chat if anyone knew of other bitcoin video poker, so I pointed him your way:



The site he was on uses google accounts and openid to automatically register its players.  I suspect this guy didn't even realise he had "registered" using his google credentials, and so saw the site as being easier to use than bitzino.

I thought it was interesting that he was put off of bitzino by the need to register (which isn't even necessary for play money play anyway) and that it might be something you hadn't considered.

I've seen it go both ways, but you're right that it probably is more typical to darken. However, the rest of our interface is already so dark, making the overlay dark as well is just too much darkness. UI is hard :/

Your overlay makes the rest of the screen brighter, not darker.  Isn't it usual to darken the inactive part of the screen?


Thanks.  I managed to stop myself losing all of it on video poker.

I like this idea! We'll see if we can work out a good UI for this.

Another feature that will help here is keyboard shortcuts. This has been on the back-burner for quite a while, but hopefully will be coming down the pipe soon.


Nice! It's always good to know all the corner-cases hold up in the wild


Yeah, I agree with you. We've tweaked the overlay by adding a subtle pattern as well as making it more opaque. I think it looks much better now.

Thanks for all the valuable feedback! I've added 0.25 BTC to your account to thank you

I think your overlay is too translucent.  Making it more opaque would make it more obvious that the dialog is modal.  Look how dim the 'more play tables' thing goes when the 'draw' button is active, and compare that to how dim the x2, +1, etc. buttons go when I open the 'more pay tables' dialog.

I don't think I ever managed to split to 4 hands before.  It worked very smoothly. 

Sure.  I was just commenting on your statement that "we offer the best odds on all our games".


Nice.

I wonder if you could find an unobtrusive way of offering "all" and "none" buttons to mark all and none of the cards as held.  Then when I get two pair I click 'all' then unhold the odd card.  Less clicks, less chance of operator error.

Our Jacks or Better pay table is a standard "Full Pay" pay table, which offers 99.54% RTP under optimal play. The games where we made tweaks were Double Bonus Poker and Double Double Bonus Poker, where we increased the payout of Straight Flushes up to 60 for 1, and also increased the payout of "4 Aces with a 2-4" up to 460 (instead of the standard 400 for 1). These adjustments bring these pay table's RTP above 99% (to 99.48% and 99.46%, respectively).

We have taken great care to ensure our risk of ruin is minimal. As the player's edge increases, the risk of ruin for the house increases (when it's >= 100%, the risk of ruin for the house is guaranteed in the long run). So, in games where the RTP is above 100%, the player may think they're getting a good game, but in reality they're betting against the house going broke.


Good call! We have changed the UI so that there is a translucent overlay over the rest of the UI, so that it's more obvious that this is a modal box.


We took your advice and made the UI slightly less subtle - we added a few pixels to the height of the 'Held' marker, and removed a few pixels from the grey shadow which appears on mouseover. We didn't want to change things too much, but hopefully the small changes help to make a larger differentiation between the two, and makes it clear which cards are held.


We have been considering doing something like this on a short-term basis in order to get users to try us out. However, we likely won't be offering anything like this on a permanent basis. Even at small limits, zero house edge games make the risk of ruin for the house guaranteed over a long enough timeframe (unless the games are Player vs Player, which is something we're planning on building).

How does the maths work out for that?  Each bet has a 0% house edge, so you would think that the overall house edge for the game is also 0%.

But if you assume that each player quits once they go bust then that starts to sound like a winner for the house.

I expect for each player who goes bust, those profits are offset by another play who never goes bust, but instead makes a nice profit.

Also, running a 0% house edge roulette game would pretty much kill all the action on the existing 2.7% house edge roulette game, and so would be a pretty silly move.