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Quote from: Cryptock on November 28, 2021, 11:38:54 AM

My point was whether, when the bankroll is "pumped" (no winnings, everyone only lose) player should theoretically be more lucky (because casino is "full"), and when there was a series of big wins and the bankroll decreased significantly, we theoretically should have less luck (because the casino is "hungry")?

The widely used term isn't "hungry" and "full," but "hot" and "cold." Cheesy

I did some observation where games can have low monthly live-RTP for several months. It means games can suck money for quite a long period (more people lose), before achieving monthly live-RTP higher than theoretical RTP (more people win). The problem is, gamblers cannot predict when the live-RTP will be favorable to them. When they see previous monthly live-RTP for game-x was 80%, this month live-RTP will still be unknown, it can even be worse than 80% or rebound to 110%. Sure, there are low RTP periods (cold) and high RTP periods (hot), but no one can predict the timing. RTP even more wildly fluctuates in weekly live-RTP and daily live-RTP, so there's no point in observing this data.

If you are interested in live RTP, there are casinos that provide the data. But for me, it only makes my playing session less enjoyable.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on November 28, 2021, 02:27:46 AM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 27, 2021, 11:25:06 AM

But I was wondering if the higher size of the bankroll could affect whether we could be more lucky.

No, bet size has no effect on your winning probability.

I didn't mean bet size, but the size of the entire bankroll.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 27, 2021, 11:25:06 AM

My point is that the more other players lose, then the house grows and theoretically the probability (so our luck) that we will win is higher, am i right?

It doesn't work that way. It is called "Gambler Fallacy" or i'd like to say "Slotsception" lol
The result is independent and random, so a player with godlike luck like @roycilik can get "sensational win" quite often, while the rest, got kicked in the nuts. This is because there is no such thing as "the (house) pot," the machine is just programmed to spit random multiplier on each spin.

As for luck itself, I understand how it works

My point was whether, when the bankroll is "pumped" (no winnings, everyone only lose) player should theoretically be more lucky (because casino is "full"), and when there was a series of big wins and the bankroll decreased significantly, we theoretically should have less luck (because the casino is "hungry")?

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 27, 2021, 11:25:06 AM

But I was wondering if the higher size of the bankroll could affect whether we could be more lucky.

No, bet size has no effect on your winning probability.

Quote from: Cryptock on November 27, 2021, 11:25:06 AM

My point is that the more other players lose, then the house grows and theoretically the probability (so our luck) that we will win is higher, am i right?

It doesn't work that way. It is called "Gambler Fallacy" or i'd like to say "Slotsception" lol
The result is independent and random, so a player with godlike luck like @roycilik can get "sensational win" quite often, while the rest, got kicked in the nuts. This is because there is no such thing as "the (house) pot," the machine is just programmed to spit random multiplier on each spin.

Quote from: roycilik on November 27, 2021, 11:45:12 AM

There is always a chance to win and "The House ^doesn't Always Win". :p

True, the HE and "the house always win" mantra are widely misinterpreted for so long. It is applicable if the case is all players (population) vs casino in an unlimited time frame. It doesn't work like that if we talk about a sample (of gamblers) in a limited time frame. There always winners and losers.

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 27, 2021, 01:15:08 PM

They say based on theory but they never tried, you are the opposite and you may face some members who will against your opinion. LOL

Oooh, I'm scared Cheesy

I won't argue with them, because it doesn't make me better LOL
I've often shared my gambling activity on this forum and that's enough to answer their objections

Quote from: panjul07 on November 27, 2021, 01:15:08 PM

Quote from: roycilik on November 27, 2021, 11:45:12 AM

No no, I have my own rule, I'll not make buy feature more than 20 times.

Are you sure, or do you mean 20 times consecutively? Grin

Depend on the situation Cheesy

but at this time I really reduce the activity of doing Buy Feature

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Quote from: roycilik on November 27, 2021, 11:45:12 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on November 26, 2021, 11:04:02 AM

@roycilik, cant you stop tempt us with your big win? LOL

Sorry, I can't lol
I just want to show some facts about slot games, where many people say we will only burn money in slot games without being able to make some nice profits.
There is always a chance to win and "The House ^doesn't Always Win". :p

Fun fact, most of those who say like that are those who do not even gamble or try slot games.
They say based on theory but they never tried, you are the opposite and you may face some members who will against your opinion. LOL

Quote from: roycilik on November 27, 2021, 11:45:12 AM

No no, I have my own rule, I'll not make buy feature more than 20 times.

Are you sure, or do you mean 20 times consecutively? Grin

Yes it will be crazy to do so many buy feature in a row, we should limit it or we should combine it with normal spins or by switching to other games.

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 26, 2021, 11:04:02 AM

@roycilik, cant you stop tempt us with your big win? LOL

Sorry, I can't lol
I just want to show some facts about slot games, where many people say we will only burn money in slot games without being able to make some nice profits.
There is always a chance to win and "The House ^doesn't Always Win". :p

Quote from: bestcoins1 on November 26, 2021, 12:04:02 PM

One of the most difficult games conquered even with 50x buy features not necessarily get a full screen how can you conquer games like this Huh

Serious, there are no Tricks or Patterns, I just click spin button (:

Quote from: bestcoins1 on November 26, 2021, 12:04:02 PM

We were not surprised if this was your 50th buy features or more because maybe you have a good bankroll

No no, I have my own rule, I'll not make buy feature more than 20 times.

Quote from: mu_enrico on November 27, 2021, 11:24:23 AM

The good thing is @roycilik is forbidden to participate.

That annoying!! Hahahaa

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Quote from: roycilik on November 26, 2021, 10:46:28 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on November 26, 2021, 02:01:46 AM

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One of the most difficult games conquered even with 50x buy features not necessarily get a full screen how can you conquer games like this Huh

We were not surprised if this was your 50th buy features or more because maybe you have a good bankroll

Of course the more you try, the more chances you have to win something big but good bankroll does not give you any guarantee to win huge from buy feature. What you need is luck, nothing else. I have a story when I managed to win few thousands dollar from $25 deposit only, and on the other day I played with more deposit but I lost it all. I have to say that it is a proof that LUCK is more powerful than Bankroll.

Of course, luck at the casino is the most important. But I was wondering if the higher size of the bankroll could affect whether we could be more lucky. My point is that the more other players lose, then the house grows and theoretically the probability (so our luck) that we will win is higher, am i right?

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Meanwhile, I only capable of producing <200x multiplier. Wasted my balance on Gonzo Quest Megaways and Piggy Riches Megaways lol.

Quote from: mu_enrico on November 26, 2021, 06:38:07 AM

Multi: 191.9x

I don't expect to be the #1 winner tho, since people often submit in the last minute. The good thing is @roycilik is forbidden to participate.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on November 26, 2021, 12:04:02 PM

Quote from: roycilik on November 26, 2021, 10:46:28 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on November 26, 2021, 02:01:46 AM

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One of the most difficult games conquered even with 50x buy features not necessarily get a full screen how can you conquer games like this Huh

We were not surprised if this was your 50th buy features or more because maybe you have a good bankroll

Of course the more you try, the more chances you have to win something big but good bankroll does not give you any guarantee to win huge from buy feature. What you need is luck, nothing else. I have a story when I managed to win few thousands dollar from $25 deposit only, and on the other day I played with more deposit but I lost it all. I have to say that it is a proof that LUCK is more powerful than Bankroll.

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Quote from: roycilik on November 26, 2021, 10:46:28 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on November 26, 2021, 02:01:46 AM

Nice win as usual, you do not need try to beat me as you have beaten me already with your max win in several different games. Your luck seems to be on other providers, not Pragmatic Play. Lets push BK8 to add your favorite providers Yggdrasil, Hacksaw, and NoLimit City as soon as possible.

I totally agree about adding some of the providers above, They need to have some extremely volatility games Cheesy

But I still have another alternative to play in extreme volatility game, yeah the game is Dead Or Alive 2 :v
last night I got another nice win on DOA2, the multiplier is around x2600

One of the most difficult games conquered even with 50x buy features not necessarily get a full screen how can you conquer games like this Huh

We were not surprised if this was your 50th buy features or more because maybe you have a good bankroll

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@roycilik, cant you stop tempt us with your big win? LOL
After my $700 withdraw from bk8 sometime ago, I made a new deposit but unfortunately lost it all.
My overall stats is still positive, but for now I prefer to not make another deposit.

I'm checking the VIP program at the moment, as I can see the only requirement to level up is by making deposit.
I do not think that I will be able to level up with that requirement.
I think bk8 need to make the VIP program like most other casinos where leveling up is based on the wagered amount, not the deposited amount.

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 26, 2021, 02:01:46 AM

Nice win as usual, you do not need try to beat me as you have beaten me already with your max win in several different games. Your luck seems to be on other providers, not Pragmatic Play. Lets push BK8 to add your favorite providers Yggdrasil, Hacksaw, and NoLimit City as soon as possible.

I totally agree about adding some of the providers above, They need to have some extremely volatility games Cheesy

But I still have another alternative to play in extreme volatility game, yeah the game is Dead Or Alive 2 :v
last night I got another nice win on DOA2, the multiplier is around x2600

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Quote from: roycilik on November 25, 2021, 02:45:13 PM

How was your gambling activity today? Fruit Party is so Hot for me Grin

It's been a week or maybe longer for me without gambling, even a single cent. So I can say that my gambling activity is in FREEZE mode till now.

Quote from: roycilik on November 25, 2021, 02:45:13 PM

I just got a multiplier of around x1000 on Fruit Party, yeah I know this is not enough to beat Mr.Binitity (which some time ago he got MaxWin) Grin

Nice win as usual, you do not need try to beat me as you have beaten me already with your max win in several different games. Your luck seems to be on other providers, not Pragmatic Play. Lets push BK8 to add your favorite providers Yggdrasil, Hacksaw, and NoLimit City as soon as possible.

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How was your gambling activity today? Fruit Party is so Hot for me Grin

I just got a multiplier of around x1000 on Fruit Party, yeah I know this is not enough to beat Mr.Binitity (which some time ago he got MaxWin) Grin

Do you want to get a high chance to win or profit? So yeah BK8 Slot Multiplier Fever | $500 Prize Pool is waiting for your entry :v

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Quote from: mu_enrico on November 25, 2021, 05:16:30 AM

Crypto withdrawal is up again, now you can withdraw USDT TRC20

Good to hear that, I think bk8 should be more active to inform any news related to their service in this thread.
Especially if the news is related to the payment system which is a very important thing for all players.
New features, new promotions, or even a news like a big win made by bk8 players will be attractive if bk8 is willing to post it in this thread.

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Crypto withdrawal is up again, now you can withdraw USDT TRC20, happy multiplier hunting! Grin

As for now, they still use the old system.

Quote from: delfastTions on November 25, 2021, 02:47:39 AM

The question is - who would like this scenario - you can enter cryptocurrencies, but you cannot take them back to your account?
Moreover, the support service does not say when it will be possible, does not say the time of correction and whether devs will open such an opportunity again, or maybe disabled forever. These are all disgusting signs that the casino should at least be treated with caution.
It will be right for the casino image if devs fix the withdrawal as soon as possible.

If it's unknown brand, I'd worry as well, but I think BK8 is considered a big player in SEA market, so no problem since they still offered wire transfer at that time. If all withdrawal button disabled, then I'd somewhat worried.

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Quote from: delfastTions on November 25, 2021, 02:47:39 AM

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 24, 2021, 12:10:39 PM

So this is the reason why I cant see the option to withdraw with crypto, how long its been down?

Yep, it's been down since yesterday morning (GMT+7). I did chat with support and they offered bank transfer method for withdrawal Shocked

I asked when it will be up again as well, but they can't give me time estimation.

The good thing is, the official representation heard our complaint and probably they would update their crypto system. But, we can't know for sure when the new system will be implemented. Hopefully before the contest finished all will return to normal (at least).

The question is - who would like this scenario - you can enter cryptocurrencies, but you cannot take them back to your account?
Moreover, the support service does not say when it will be possible, does not say the time of correction and whether devs will open such an opportunity again, or maybe disabled forever. These are all disgusting signs that the casino should at least be treated with caution.
It will be right for the casino image if devs fix the withdrawal as soon as possible.

I will not speculate too far and it is better to wait for an official answer/information from the representative of BK8. Support service's job is to give general information only based on what they know from the other departments. If there is still no information from the one who are in charge to maintain the withdrawal system, it is reasonable if the live support does not say about the ETA when it will come back.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on November 24, 2021, 12:49:31 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on November 24, 2021, 12:10:39 PM

So this is the reason why I cant see the option to withdraw with crypto, how long its been down?

Yep, it's been down since yesterday morning (GMT+7). I did chat with support and they offered bank transfer method for withdrawal Shocked

I asked when it will be up again as well, but they can't give me time estimation.

The good thing is, the official representation heard our complaint and probably they would update their crypto system. But, we can't know for sure when the new system will be implemented. Hopefully before the contest finished all will return to normal (at least).

The question is - who would like this scenario - you can enter cryptocurrencies, but you cannot take them back to your account?
Moreover, the support service does not say when it will be possible, does not say the time of correction and whether devs will open such an opportunity again, or maybe disabled forever. These are all disgusting signs that the casino should at least be treated with caution.
It will be right for the casino image if devs fix the withdrawal as soon as possible.

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 24, 2021, 12:10:39 PM

So this is the reason why I cant see the option to withdraw with crypto, how long its been down?

Yep, it's been down since yesterday morning (GMT+7). I did chat with support and they offered bank transfer method for withdrawal Shocked

I asked when it will be up again as well, but they can't give me time estimation.

The good thing is, the official representation heard our complaint and probably they would update their crypto system. But, we can't know for sure when the new system will be implemented. Hopefully before the contest finished all will return to normal (at least).

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Quote from: mu_enrico on November 23, 2021, 11:02:26 AM

FYI the crypto withdrawal is currently down and the only system up for withdrawal is bank transfer Shocked

Bank transfer is a crazy way of transferring gambling money, so I'd rather wait for the fix. But the problem is, gamblers need to withdraw ASAP so they can't play again.

So this is the reason why I cant see the option to withdraw with crypto, how long its been down?
If there is something wrong with crypto withdrawal, it should be fixed asap because it may affect user's interest from this community who prefer to use crypto than bank transfer.
What makes me confused is, the option to deposit with crypto is still working but the crypto withdrawal is not available.
Is it indeed down or the option to withdraw with crypto has been removed due to a reason?

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