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Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 181. (Read 787053 times)

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What ever the surprise is it will probably be like the compensation the customers with 1 x1 are getting. You know, it will cost you more money to receive it.
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The best solution would be the one I recommended in an earlier post.

Now that I know the X-3 will hash with just a single dual hashing board plugged into it, why not offer an option to the X-1 customers of getting half an X-3 with the equivalent number of boards to match our X-1 order? Additionally you could then offer upgrade packages to add more hash boards to the X-3 at a later date.

this.

Probably will not happen because BA has invested too much money in the X1 parts. Besides, many of us have already ordered the required PSUs for the compensation units. I am starting to doubt that there will be any serious changes at this point with the X1 or with the compensation plan.  Undecided

This would be for Batch 1 customers and maybe Batch 2 if it get's pushed back too much so we're not left hanging for longer than needed. Anyone buying units now would get the regular X1 package. I'm sure there are some people who went in on group purchases and would rather have the separate units so it should be optional.
legendary
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My guess is the "surprise" is a small scrypt miner, they brought it up once and shut up about it. Never opened pre-orders or let on any other information about it. I am guessing with the leap of technology on scrypt Asics we will get a couple Megahash as a surprise.

The chance of that happening is exactly 0%.

My guess is that the "surprise", if it even exists, is that they figured out a substantial efficiency / performance tweak, but they're not 100% sure yet.
This could very well be true, if so, it's one of those things they stay tight lipped on so when we actually get shippable units they release this "secret" and make it like it's some big thing and people are so awed by it they forget that we'll never get ROI for about a week.
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How did they take the suggestion do you feel, being face to face you can tell if they took it in and were going to mull it over lets say or just let it pass by as a good idea but not one they may use. Sorry if this is a stupid question but you have had the face to face contact we have not had.

They took it under consideration- from my view it will be a matter of production and parts- they want to make sure every one gets what they paid for plus the compensation, before anything extra is decided. Pretty fair way of going about it IMHO.


Its an option to consider, however iff they first want to produce what every ine paid for, its out of the question..?

I don't think he was saying it was out of the question, I think it comes down to how much they have once they've made all the purchased units.

Similar circumstances are probably why the "surprise" is under wraps. IDEK - maybe I'm an idiot but I have a good feeling.
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How did they take the suggestion do you feel, being face to face you can tell if they took it in and were going to mull it over lets say or just let it pass by as a good idea but not one they may use. Sorry if this is a stupid question but you have had the face to face contact we have not had.

They took it under consideration- from my view it will be a matter of production and parts- they want to make sure every one gets what they paid for plus the compensation, before anything extra is decided. Pretty fair way of going about it IMHO.


Its an option to consider, however iff they first want to produce what every ine paid for, its out of the question..?
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How did they take the suggestion do you feel, being face to face you can tell if they took it in and were going to mull it over lets say or just let it pass by as a good idea but not one they may use. Sorry if this is a stupid question but you have had the face to face contact we have not had.

They took it under consideration- from my view it will be a matter of production and parts- they want to make sure every one gets what they paid for plus the compensation, before anything extra is decided. Pretty fair way of going about it IMHO.
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How did they take the suggestion do you feel, being face to face you can tell if they took it in and were going to mull it over lets say or just let it pass by as a good idea but not one they may use. Sorry if this is a stupid question but you have had the face to face contact we have not had.
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The best solution would be the one I recommended in an earlier post.

Now that I know the X-3 will hash with just a single dual hashing board plugged into it, why not offer an option to the X-1 customers of getting half an X-3 with the equivalent number of boards to match our X-1 order? Additionally you could then offer upgrade packages to add more hash boards to the X-3 at a later date.

this.

Probably will not happen because BA has invested too much money in the X1 parts. Besides, many of us have already ordered the required PSUs for the compensation units. I am starting to doubt that there will be any serious changes at this point with the X1 or with the compensation plan.  Undecided
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The best solution would be the one I recommended in an earlier post.

Now that I know the X-3 will hash with just a single dual hashing board plugged into it, why not offer an option to the X-1 customers of getting half an X-3 with the equivalent number of boards to match our X-1 order? Additionally you could then offer upgrade packages to add more hash boards to the X-3 at a later date.

this.

I brought this up to them in person as a better solution, no feedback on it yet.
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The best solution would be the one I recommended in an earlier post.

Now that I know the X-3 will hash with just a single dual hashing board plugged into it, why not offer an option to the X-1 customers of getting half an X-3 with the equivalent number of boards to match our X-1 order? Additionally you could then offer upgrade packages to add more hash boards to the X-3 at a later date.

this.
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2x dual minion boards in an X3 case
It's technically impossible with current PCB and heatsink.

Do they require a fully specced set of minions for the control board to run?

These aren't Lego's they're making here. There is a lot of engineering that goes into designing a piece of hardware such as this and you can't just change it on a whim. Heat dissipation, power management, airflow and countless other things I'm not even aware of. Not to mention the fact that the boards they designed for the X1 are only meant for a single minion chip. It would require a new backplane to be designed, new case would have to be designed and then manufactured...

The best solution would be the one I recommended in an earlier post.

Now that I know the X-3 will hash with just a single dual hashing board plugged into it, why not offer an option to the X-1 customers of getting half an X-3 with the equivalent number of boards to match our X-1 order? Additionally you could then offer upgrade packages to add more hash boards to the X-3 at a later date.
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2x dual minion boards in an X3 case
It's technically impossible with current PCB and heatsink.

Do they require a fully specced set of minions for the control board to run?
RHA
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2x dual minion boards in an X3 case
It's technically impossible with current PCB and heatsink.
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Honestly. With the current hashing speed needed to ROI I would rather pay something more, and get 2x dual minion boards in an X3 case and the chance to buy additional ones later on at a decent price. That would be better than getting my 3x X-1's
legendary
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@bobsag3 Dear friend Matt, would you please once again read an email that we have sent a few minutes ago to you, which is very important to us? Thank you!
He admitted emails tricky with him sometimes, I've barked up that tree a cpl times in the past 2 days, admittedly I forgot about the china trip lol.

Then again, the could be checking the wrong address too lol
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Recently people have been going crazy with little updates from BA that they post their own/fake updates ..  Embarrassed
legendary
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Quick update:

We have noticed that there is a concern about the LCD displays. Because the LCD display is not an essential component we will not let it delay the production of the miner. If the LCD displays are not in on time for shipment we will ship the miners without the LCD display. Once we have them in stock we will ship them to everybody that would like the LCD. The people who prefer to not receive the LCD display will receive a gift card that matches the price of the LCD.
What is the price per LCD on the X1 compared to the X3 or is it the same all arround ?

Since I'm going hosted I wont need the LCD and I'm trying to figure out if I should just forgo the LCD on my purchased X3, 6 X1's an then the compensated X3 module and 3 X1's for a total of 12 LCD's between everything.

@bobsag: Welcome back *wink wink* lol
legendary
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I ordered an X-3 on 26-September, taking advantage of their BA Lancelot trade-in program.

I wonder when they'll be requesting those Lancelots.  So far I've heard nothing.
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I thought the bitfurries belonged to a customer.  Roll Eyes
Which was why they couldn't use those to mine for us while we wait for their delays.
When they are currently being sold they aren't being hashed on so they can be shipped out quick.
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So tell us Matt, how long before you file fraud charges on your multi-million dollar order? June, July, August?
I saw working chips, on working boards, with kinks to be worked out, nothing ala Cointerra or Bitmines 28nm.

How much equipment were they mining with?

2-20 chips at a time. Most of the chips are mounted to the boards you see in their updated pics, not mining. Not even the bitfury stacks are running due to preps for Rent-a-Hash
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