Here is a solution to cut down on everyone's anxiety.
BA: Set a final compensation plan and a conservative estimated ship date. Don't change it. If there are any further delays, simply provide a BTC payout for the missed mining time per Gh/day until the actual shipping date. GAWminers has been doing this for the past month and it is working very well.
Edit: If you do this BA, there is no need for anymore updates. Simply set the terms and we will wait for shipping to start.
Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 183. (Read 787053 times)
BA just give us a REAL announcement.
I compiled you a nice example that u can just copy and paste to your sitenews:
Dear customers.
Due to the unfortunate delays we decided to double every preorder's hashrate.
Shipment will start end of May, fully functional compensation units will get delivered free of charge. (no additional shipping fees, PSUs included)
Enjoy!
I compiled you a nice example that u can just copy and paste to your sitenews:
Dear customers.
Due to the unfortunate delays we decided to double every preorder's hashrate.
Shipment will start end of May, fully functional compensation units will get delivered free of charge. (no additional shipping fees, PSUs included)
Enjoy!
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BA just give us a REAL announcement.
I compiled you a nice example that u can just copy and paste to your sitenews:
Dear customers.
Due to the unfortunate delays we decided to double every preorder's hashrate.
Shipment will start end of May, fully functional compensation units will get delivered free of charge. (no additional shipping fees, PSUs included)
Enjoy!
I compiled you a nice example that u can just copy and paste to your sitenews:
Dear customers.
Due to the unfortunate delays we decided to double every preorder's hashrate.
Shipment will start end of May, fully functional compensation units will get delivered free of charge. (no additional shipping fees, PSUs included)
Enjoy!
Please read the entire post. They will be shipped as soon as we get them in stock.
Are they not shipping yet?
I got a shipment notification from Miner Source on Sunday.
So did the rest of us minersource customers. Doesn't mean a thing, just them verifying the system is working.
Case for x-1 isn't ready yet, LCD still haven't arrived, some software issues...
We still haven't seen a completed miner, including the X-3, hashing away.
Please read the entire post. They will be shipped as soon as we get them in stock.
Are they not shipping yet?
I got a shipment notification from Miner Source on Sunday.
Same here
LCD not necessary. Come on get the production done.
Do not tell us you are waiting for new LCD for an other week.
I wanna make BTC and I think everybody else does too. No fancy lcd necessary when the miner works well.
Do not tell us you are waiting for new LCD for an other week.
I wanna make BTC and I think everybody else does too. No fancy lcd necessary when the miner works well.
Quick update:
We have noticed that there is a concern about the LCD displays. Because the LCD display is not an essential component we will not let it delay the production of the miner. If the LCD displays are not in on time for shipment we will ship the miners without the LCD display. Once we have them in stock we will ship them to everybody that would like the LCD. The people who prefer to not receive the LCD display will receive a gift card that matches the price of the LCD.
We have noticed that there is a concern about the LCD displays. Because the LCD display is not an essential component we will not let it delay the production of the miner. If the LCD displays are not in on time for shipment we will ship the miners without the LCD display. Once we have them in stock we will ship them to everybody that would like the LCD. The people who prefer to not receive the LCD display will receive a gift card that matches the price of the LCD.
No automated compensation for ppl that bought single X1 from BA. There's no automatic way to order another single one AFTER A LONG PERIOD that this plan starded ( I don't want to do it ) and this consideration make clear to a large part of buyers that your customer service is @ full load since long time.
It should be clear to you that you can't ask any bit of trust (and money) anymore. As time pass you'r simply not in that condition.
In priority array, find a way to
- make compensation that not load you customer service + clients money
- absolutley no gift card ( if you assume that this could support futures sales.....you'r wrong ). I suggest simply give money back.
- we are all asking if 100GH/s in SS or TT corner. Voltages are still unknow, like underclock/undervolt margins. Efficiency is one of your single goals, so at least deliver more details in this should help you to recover a small part of you PAST customers, FOR FREE.
All of this is written in YOUR interest, and OURS.
I am glad to see that Black Arrow is taking customer's concerns over the LCDs seriously. I doubt there is a solution that will make everyone happy. Personally, I would rather have a complete miner than it arriving in parts. If BA needs another three weeks to complete these miners, I would rather they tell us now. There is no benefit to silence at this point. If BA is not going to change the compensation plan, then tell us now.
I guess it depends on what your order is.
I would loose more than the cost of all 6 LCDs I'd need if my order is delayed by a day.
Don't even care about LCDs, web interface is all I need.
I am glad to see that Black Arrow is taking customer's concerns over the LCDs seriously. I doubt there is a solution that will make everyone happy. Personally, I would rather have a complete miner than it arriving in parts. If BA needs another three weeks to complete these miners, I would rather they tell us now. There is no benefit to silence at this point. If BA is not going to change the compensation plan, then tell us now.
Amen
o btw im not christian
I am glad to see that Black Arrow is taking customer's concerns over the LCDs seriously. I doubt there is a solution that will make everyone happy. Personally, I would rather have a complete miner than it arriving in parts. If BA needs another three weeks to complete these miners, I would rather they tell us now. There is no benefit to silence at this point. If BA is not going to change the compensation plan, then tell us now.
Quick update:
We have noticed that there is a concern about the LCD displays. Because the LCD display is not an essential component we will not let it delay the production of the miner. If the LCD displays are not in on time for shipment we will ship the miners without the LCD display. Once we have them in stock we will ship them to everybody that would like the LCD. The people who prefer to not receive the LCD display will receive a gift card that matches the price of the LCD.
We have noticed that there is a concern about the LCD displays. Because the LCD display is not an essential component we will not let it delay the production of the miner. If the LCD displays are not in on time for shipment we will ship the miners without the LCD display. Once we have them in stock we will ship them to everybody that would like the LCD. The people who prefer to not receive the LCD display will receive a gift card that matches the price of the LCD.
I am fine with leaving the lcd out as long as it doesn't affect the minning performance, reliability or overclocking. Perhaps you should consider excluding the lcds and giving the psu for the compensation units free of charge.
Thanks.
I am trying to understand why BA are still doing procurement of non ASiC related components (cases, LCD etc) several months after the promised ship date of Feb 24 th. Can someone enlighten me, did I miss something important?
It all started with the "Pin-out" of the Minion,they couldn't finish the design of the PCB and other componants until they new the size/location/number of the little pins on the bottom of the Minion,they wouldn't know this until they got the first test waffer from Global,not haveing the PCBs and other shit finalized held up everything else. They did get the LCDs but the were crap so they send them back and started over.Fit problems also heled things up a bit.
But LCD's and cases have nothing to do with the layout of the pins on the printed circuit board, if the displays were crap, then I would imagine they sent them back in January or early February at the latest with the expected ship date of Feb 24th.
FYI just because the Germans use fancy terminology doesn't mean it's not also fraud in every other country as well.
Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen
I am trying to understand why BA are still doing procurement of non ASiC related components (cases, LCD etc) several months after the promised ship date of Feb 24 th. Can someone enlighten me, did I miss something important?
It all started with the "Pin-out" of the Minion,they couldn't finish the design of the PCB and other componants until they new the size/location/number of the little pins on the bottom of the Minion,they wouldn't know this until they got the first test waffer from Global,not haveing the PCBs and other shit finalized held up everything else. They did get the LCDs but the were crap so they send them back and started over.Fit problems also heled things up a bit.
When I look on the progress list of 9th of May, they I have pretty much to do.
They never have been able to deliver on first march.
If they had announced beginning in april I would not got on board- on april it was a terrible difficulty that knew everybody and now difficulty is a nightmare and no feelable progress at BA.
i can just imagine what kind of miner we will get if they ship them at all...and for LCDs,I think we would have to pay taxi driver to get those parts to us..
I am trying to understand why BA are still doing procurement of non ASiC related components (cases, LCD etc) several months after the promised ship date of Feb 24 th. Can someone enlighten me, did I miss something important?
It all started with the "Pin-out" of the Minion,they couldn't finish the design of the PCB and other componants until they new the size/location/number of the little pins on the bottom of the Minion,they wouldn't know this until they got the first test waffer from Global,not haveing the PCBs and other shit finalized held up everything else. They did get the LCDs but the were crap so they send them back and started over.Fit problems also heled things up a bit.
Please read the entire post. They will be shipped as soon as we get them in stock.
Yes, but that is Germany. Nothing to do with China so I'd give it up if I were you.
We all just need to wait now. The machines will come and soon I hope but lets face it, there is nothing we can do now. It's too late in the game to get refund from them so just get ready for the shipping notification.
We all just need to wait now. The machines will come and soon I hope but lets face it, there is nothing we can do now. It's too late in the game to get refund from them so just get ready for the shipping notification.
How long do you wait? I have paid 6 months ago.
If the LCD displays are not in on time for shipment we will ship the miners without the LCD display.
Nice. So, Ebayers, who sold their miners, are scammers like BlackArrow, because the "Built-in LCD to display" isn't existing".
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