Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 207. (Read 787257 times)
Those chips sure look purty. Guess I'll keep my X-1s as a memento to how mining at home used to look, before Spondoolies and Peernova blow the roof off the network hash rate with their offerings.
Thanks for the pictures. I guess bobsag3 should be on his way to China now. Have a safe trip.
Probably going to leave tomorrow night/thursday morning, then ~20 hours for me to get there depending on timing.
Bon voyage and bring some minions back for us
Thanks for the pictures. I guess bobsag3 should be on his way to China now. Have a safe trip.
Probably going to leave tomorrow night/thursday morning, then ~20 hours for me to get there depending on timing.
The chips have arrived in our laboratory.
We are testing them now.
More pictures in the minion gallery.
We are testing them now.
More pictures in the minion gallery.
Pic of the Minions posted over at eCoinTalk:
http://ecointalk.net/gallery/image/329-black-arrows-minions/
http://ecointalk.net/gallery/image/329-black-arrows-minions/
Cool. Good progress!
Pic of the Minions posted over at eCoinTalk:
http://ecointalk.net/gallery/image/329-black-arrows-minions/
http://ecointalk.net/gallery/image/329-black-arrows-minions/
I have ordered in November 2013 on Batch 1. When is shipping? I still waiting a half year. Shipping should be at the end of February 2014.
Those scammers of BA are promising everything and they do nothing.
Those scammers of BA are promising everything and they do nothing.
Sirsmokealot : i have the same problem. I cant get reply to my questions about my refunds. Also i still havent received it since March
But if he ordered on batch 2 it's 15th of May delivery not March so he needs to say what batch he is not be vague.
I think the original delivery was end of April for batch 2. I don't know where this 15th of May date comes from.
http://web.archive.org/web/20140209091048/http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-3.html
"This product will be available on 30 Apr 2014"
"This is a PRE-ORDER (Batch 2), available for dispatch at end of April 2014"
http://web.archive.org/web/20140209130336/https://minersource.net/products/black-arrow-prospero-x-3-2000ghash-slash-second
"THIS IS A PRE-ORDER, NOW ON BATCH 2 ROUND 1, ALL FURTHER ORDERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR DISPATCH APRIL 30TH 2014."
batch 2 is already late, according to that.
taken from the bottom of ba's own site
Note: the preliminary specifications are currently reported by our design tools. They have not yet been proven in a laboratory and might be subject to change, although we do not expect it to vary much.
Group buys: Group buys are not permitted. We will cancel any order that we discover that is a group buy and will refund the payment minus 10% that we will charge for our time wasted in this matter. By placing an order for this item you agree with the above.
This is a PRE-ORDER for Batch 2, available for dispatch around 15/05/2014
For the same as an x-3 cost I could have 4Th/s worth of ant miners in hand right now.
Thank's for making me look like a total fucking retard who lost all his money on bitcoins. I told you so's all around for me.
Thank's for making me look like a total fucking retard who lost all his money on bitcoins. I told you so's all around for me.
You would have to buy power supplies for all of those Antminers though. So it's not a real comparison unless you throw that into it. You're probably closer to 3th which granted you'd have now, but you'd also get 3th (Sort of because you have to pay for the PSU and shipping on that third th) if they shipped on time. And the BA have a better power to gh ratio so they'd earn you more over time than the antminers.
That said, since you have to apparently pay for the extras on the third TH and we're not sure they will ship on time, you may be better off with the antminers unless they adjust their compensation again.
He would've ROI'd with Antminers by now and then some if he had got a bunch of them in Jan/Feb even with power supplies.
BA ROI is never.
For the same as an x-3 cost I could have 4Th/s worth of ant miners in hand right now.
Thank's for making me look like a total fucking retard who lost all his money on bitcoins. I told you so's all around for me.
Thank's for making me look like a total fucking retard who lost all his money on bitcoins. I told you so's all around for me.
You would have to buy power supplies for all of those Antminers though. So it's not a real comparison unless you throw that into it. You're probably closer to 3th which granted you'd have now, but you'd also get 3th (Sort of because you have to pay for the PSU and shipping on that third th) if they shipped on time. And the BA have a better power to gh ratio so they'd earn you more over time than the antminers.
That said, since you have to apparently pay for the extras on the third TH and we're not sure they will ship on time, you may be better off with the antminers unless they adjust their compensation again.
Yeah, i asked for a refund from minersource, told him i ordered january first, which i did, and it is supposed to be part of the batch 1 orders. I was told it was going to be as there was a snafu with them posting on the sites three days later that orders after 12-31 were going to be batch 2. I just wouldn't have ordered them if it said that on the first, when i placed my orders. It did not, not until the third did that come up. So i was under the impression that i was shipping with batch one. This was discussed back when it happened.
Then why is my refund lumped into batch two. When i sent him two other emails regarding the issues, they went ignored. I was surpised at that because the email shooting down my refund came mighty fast. Also the email i sent about my order and accounts not showing up was dealt with in a timely manner, after the ones for my refund were ignored. Oddly enough though, my refund requests just never made it through
For btc refunds, do you get back the btc you paid to him? Or do i get back cash value? Either way, i just want a refund. orders 1334, 1343. I will also be emailing again.
Then why is my refund lumped into batch two. When i sent him two other emails regarding the issues, they went ignored. I was surpised at that because the email shooting down my refund came mighty fast. Also the email i sent about my order and accounts not showing up was dealt with in a timely manner, after the ones for my refund were ignored. Oddly enough though, my refund requests just never made it through
For btc refunds, do you get back the btc you paid to him? Or do i get back cash value? Either way, i just want a refund. orders 1334, 1343. I will also be emailing again.
But if he ordered on batch 2 it's 15th of May delivery not March so he needs to say what batch he is not be vague.
Yes but that post doesn't say when he ordered could have been February.
So what, he hasn't received his product within 30 days and the law says.Quote
you must, without being asked, promptly refund all the money the customer paid you for the unshipped merchandise.
Yes but that post doesn't say when he ordered could have been February.
Minersource is offering refunds for batch 1 orders. (Batch 2 is not delayed yet)
They are not breaking any FTC rules.
I was responding to the post above mine which clearly said:They are not breaking any FTC rules.
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Bobsag3 please give me any news about my refund for order: R031654748. I have been waiting for my refund since March. I am already starting to think that you guys are scammers and dont want to give back the money for refund. Please tell me anything about it, or everybody will know, that you guys are scammers.
March is certainly more than the 30day rule.
Minersource have been open about batch 2 not refunding as it's not late and many batch 1's have had refunds. So they are doing there best they don't run BA.
Minersource is offering refunds for batch 1 orders. (Batch 2 is not delayed yet)
They are not breaking any FTC rules.
They are not breaking any FTC rules.
Minersource shouldn't be offering products for sale over the Internet, which are not going to be delivered within 30days, else they have to refund under US consumer law. It's called the FTC 30 day rule and can be found here:
http://www.business.ftc.gov/documents/bus02-business-guide-mail-and-telephone-order-merchandise-rule
http://www.business.ftc.gov/documents/bus02-business-guide-mail-and-telephone-order-merchandise-rule
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What Does the Rule Cover?
It applies to most goods a customer orders from the seller by mail, telephone, fax, or on the Internet.
It does not matter how the merchandise is advertised, how the customer pays, or who initiates the contact.
What is the Mail or Telephone Order Rule?
The Rule requires that when you advertise merchandise, you must have a reasonable basis for stating or implying that you can ship within a certain time. If you make no shipment statement, you must have a reasonable basis for believing that you can ship within 30 days. That is why direct marketers sometimes call this the "30-day Rule."
If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment. If you cannot obtain the customer’s consent to the delay -- either because it is not a situation in which you are permitted to treat the customer’s silence as consent and the customer has not expressly consented to the delay, or because the customer has expressly refused to consent -- you must, without being asked, promptly refund all the money the customer paid you for the unshipped merchandise.
It applies to most goods a customer orders from the seller by mail, telephone, fax, or on the Internet.
It does not matter how the merchandise is advertised, how the customer pays, or who initiates the contact.
What is the Mail or Telephone Order Rule?
The Rule requires that when you advertise merchandise, you must have a reasonable basis for stating or implying that you can ship within a certain time. If you make no shipment statement, you must have a reasonable basis for believing that you can ship within 30 days. That is why direct marketers sometimes call this the "30-day Rule."
If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment. If you cannot obtain the customer’s consent to the delay -- either because it is not a situation in which you are permitted to treat the customer’s silence as consent and the customer has not expressly consented to the delay, or because the customer has expressly refused to consent -- you must, without being asked, promptly refund all the money the customer paid you for the unshipped merchandise.
Bobsag3 please give me any news about my refund for order: R031654748. I have been waiting for my refund since March. I am already starting to think that you guys are scammers and dont want to give back the money for refund. Please tell me anything about it, or everybody will know, that you guys are scammers.
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