Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 208. (Read 787053 times)
It's painfully obvious at this point that february delivery was a straight up lie. Fucking scammers at BA
David and Bobsag3,
Just a suggestion: INCLUDE THE PSU FOR FREE!
Some of us have been quietly sitting on our hands, patiently awaiting updates, reading the threads but not joining in the BS. Some of us are actually legitimate business people, with investments in other things besides bitcoin, who understand that manufacturing delays happen. Also, some of us think that if you patiently wait for a product to be delivered, even though that product is months behind schedule, and you don't drop the manufacturer or its reseller in the grease and spew vitriol all over the forums, that maybe it might be nice to relieve some of us of the undue financial burden of paying for PSU's just so we can make up a PORTION of the btc we lost in the wait.
Come on guys. Do the right thing and it WILL come back to you.
DS1
Just a suggestion: INCLUDE THE PSU FOR FREE!
Some of us have been quietly sitting on our hands, patiently awaiting updates, reading the threads but not joining in the BS. Some of us are actually legitimate business people, with investments in other things besides bitcoin, who understand that manufacturing delays happen. Also, some of us think that if you patiently wait for a product to be delivered, even though that product is months behind schedule, and you don't drop the manufacturer or its reseller in the grease and spew vitriol all over the forums, that maybe it might be nice to relieve some of us of the undue financial burden of paying for PSU's just so we can make up a PORTION of the btc we lost in the wait.
Come on guys. Do the right thing and it WILL come back to you.
DS1
Indeed the chips will arrive on the 6th.
Oh I thought they were shipping on the 6th? Just arriving? My bad must have misread something, will there be an update tomorrow with pics and specs and what not?
Also, I am not sure if there is any more reevaluating going on about the compensation plan, but has anyone brought up further (besides me) about being able to sell the 50% discounts? I would def buy some off of people who only ordered 1 unit and cannot or will not buy another one, so that I get 2 units for 1.5x the price of one.
There should be an update tomorrow, but if not the minute I get notice that the chips have landed, I will be booking a flight over to China, I am going to be on hand for the first completed units and testing so I can bring at least 1 X1 back with me in my carry on
Ill do my best.
Ans plz. for the ppl that only have order 1 X1 or an odd number of X1's cause these ppl are the victim of this compensation plan in conparison to those who have a bigger wallet (read X3 or a multitude of X1's)
Indeed the chips will arrive on the 6th.
Oh I thought they were shipping on the 6th? Just arriving? My bad must have misread something, will there be an update tomorrow with pics and specs and what not?
Also, I am not sure if there is any more reevaluating going on about the compensation plan, but has anyone brought up further (besides me) about being able to sell the 50% discounts? I would def buy some off of people who only ordered 1 unit and cannot or will not buy another one, so that I get 2 units for 1.5x the price of one.
There should be an update tomorrow, but if not the minute I get notice that the chips have landed, I will be booking a flight over to China, I am going to be on hand for the first completed units and testing so I can bring at least 1 X1 back with me in my carry on
Ill do my best.
Nice one bobsag3
Indeed the chips will arrive on the 6th.
Oh I thought they were shipping on the 6th? Just arriving? My bad must have misread something, will there be an update tomorrow with pics and specs and what not?
Also, I am not sure if there is any more reevaluating going on about the compensation plan, but has anyone brought up further (besides me) about being able to sell the 50% discounts? I would def buy some off of people who only ordered 1 unit and cannot or will not buy another one, so that I get 2 units for 1.5x the price of one.
There should be an update tomorrow, but if not the minute I get notice that the chips have landed, I will be booking a flight over to China, I am going to be on hand for the first completed units and testing so I can bring at least 1 X1 back with me in my carry on
Indeed the chips will arrive on the 6th.
David i am still waiting to hear if i am on batch 1 or 2 ? I bought and paid on the 3rd/Jan a few hours later that day batch 1 was closed
so i really need to know do i buy more psu's or request/push for a refund as i ordered and paid on batch 1 i think it can only be fair that i belong on batch 1
my delivery date that was stated was the 10th March.
Not sure if there will be an update tomorrow and what will be in it if there is one. I don't decide that. At the moment we are all very busy with other thing but as soon as there is some time I'll bring up the topic about the compensation.
Indeed the chips will arrive on the 6th.
I suppose a question some people might be asking themselves is, "Just how long is the long con?"
Or maybe, "If the hashing I'm getting now is worth less than half the hashing I expected at the earlier promised delivery dates, have I only been half scammed?"
Conned and scammed, or half conned and half scammed?
Or maybe, "If the hashing I'm getting now is worth less than half the hashing I expected at the earlier promised delivery dates, have I only been half scammed?"
Conned and scammed, or half conned and half scammed?
The good news is, after all of this ordeal, we will know tomorrow whether this has been one big scam or not. I believe tomorrow (the 6th) is when chips should start shipping, which means that they will have chips in hand or not. I would have thought getting the chips would be big news and BA would have gotten on here and rubbed it in all of our faces that they actually had chips, but that has not seemed to happen. So the question is have chips arrived or haven't they? I guess we will know tomorrow.
It's still the 5th so as you say tomorrow then.
I tried to contact BA about buying the needed PSUs and the reply was to wait for another update sometime soon. I would hold off buying PSUs for compensation units until BA post another announcement. I hope any hardware delays are not as bad as the Coincraft fiasco earlier this year. I can't believe that Chinese know-off miners where available with the A1 chip before prepaid customer orders where filled. I hope BA does not follow that path.
From the looks of it... the additional compensation units are going to be shipping at a later time than the main orders
I tried to contact BA about buying the needed PSUs and the reply was to wait for another update sometime soon. I would hold off buying PSUs for compensation units until BA post another announcement. I hope any hardware delays are not as bad as the Coincraft fiasco earlier this year. I can't believe that Chinese know-off miners where available with the A1 chip before prepaid customer orders where filled. I hope BA does not follow that path.
I had resell the GH/s to my customers and I can't deliver due to BA non-shipping-fraud. Am insolvent and out of business. I promised weekly payouts, but I have no hardware to mine Bitcoins.
Sorry chap but you really screwed up, selling something you don't have hang on sounds familiar, But I do feel for you.
I had resell the GH/s to my customers and I can't deliver due to BA non-shipping-fraud. Am insolvent and out of business. I promised weekly payouts, but I have no hardware to mine Bitcoins.
You should not have sold your GH/s before you got your miners.
I had resell the GH/s to my customers and I can't deliver due to BA non-shipping-fraud. Am insolvent and out of business. I promised weekly payouts, but I have no hardware to mine Bitcoins.
That is BS! i got a refund about 2 months ago when i realised the shit was going to hit the fan and i got the exact same amount of btc back and BA told me then that they are not an investment company so cannot give the usd value back but only the exact number of coins. However btc/usd has dropped since then so the coins you get will not be worth as much as when you paid.
Again, how much evidence do we need that they are speculating with customer funds? Also, if this anecdote is true, look how transparently scammy the customer service is, spinning this fraud as something somehow appropriate.
They are clearing inventory of the older Bitfury devices. Looks like they need cash.
Not a good sign.
I would buy one but the minimum quantity is 10. Strange thing is you can buy just one power adapter.
Have BA seen the price of Antminer S1's lately? 0.55BTC for 180GHS +
Plan.. get refund of 2.75BTC that I paid last year for an X1 (as they have not supplied the hardware).. Buy 5X Ant Miners now .. and get around 2THS instead of 100 GHS for the same $$.
BA will not give you your initial BTC amount back you probably will get around 0,8 BTC as they will recalculate the BTC based on the exchange rate of today.
That is BS! i got a refund about 2 months ago when i realised the shit was going to hit the fan and i got the exact same amount of btc back and BA told me then that they are not an investment company so cannot give the usd value back but only the exact number of coins. However btc/usd has dropped since then so the coins you get will not be worth as much as when you paid.
The point is that they are a HK registered company and so must abide by HK laws. I will pay $100 usd to anyone who takes them to Small Claims Court and does not win because that is how confident i am that you would be successful. Once you have won at small claims court which is actually very easy (no lawyers are allowed, there are no costs if you fail, the adjudicator listens to both parties then awards or throws out the case) and if you win you get a writ of fifo that allows you to go to BA office and confiscation anything you like with the bailiffs in-tow. These things can then be put in government auction to pay back the debt owed. I know what i am talking about as have done it before and been successful.
The Problem is getting to the HK to defend myself would be a lot more than what I would get back.
Then i would say, go for it.
Have BA seen the price of Antminer S1's lately? 0.55BTC for 180GHS +
Plan.. get refund of 2.75BTC that I paid last year for an X1 (as they have not supplied the hardware).. Buy 5X Ant Miners now .. and get around 2THS instead of 100 GHS for the same $$.
BA will not give you your initial BTC amount back you probably will get around 0,8 BTC as they will recalculate the BTC based on the exchange rate of today.
That is BS! i got a refund about 2 months ago when i realised the shit was going to hit the fan and i got the exact same amount of btc back and BA told me then that they are not an investment company so cannot give the usd value back but only the exact number of coins. However btc/usd has dropped since then so the coins you get will not be worth as much as when you paid.
The point is that they are a HK registered company and so must abide by HK laws. I will pay $100 usd to anyone who takes them to Small Claims Court and does not win because that is how confident i am that you would be successful. Once you have won at small claims court which is actually very easy (no lawyers are allowed, there are no costs if you fail, the adjudicator listens to both parties then awards or throws out the case) and if you win you get a writ of fifo that allows you to go to BA office and confiscation anything you like with the bailiffs in-tow. These things can then be put in government auction to pay back the debt owed. I know what i am talking about as have done it before and been successful.
Have BA seen the price of Antminer S1's lately? 0.55BTC for 180GHS +
Plan.. get refund of 2.75BTC that I paid last year for an X1 (as they have not supplied the hardware).. Buy 5X Ant Miners now .. and get around 2THS instead of 100 GHS for the same $$.
BA will not give you your initial BTC amount back you probably will get around 0,8 BTC as they will recalculate the BTC based on the exchange rate of today.
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