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Why should customers with an X1 purchase have to pay MORE money in order to be compensated?

From eurolove on ecointalk forum:

"Hello guyz

£36, 44€, 60$
for the X-1's PSU (inc. VAT&Ship. fee) from Logic Ethos Ltd.
https://shop.logicet...t&product_id=57

I have receveid this mail from Stuart -Logic Ethos Ltd.

"The comments for your order are:

Hi, as a batch 1 customer your entitled to 1 free X-1.  This is without Power Supplies, and can be purchased for £36.00 (inc VAT) with no additional shipping fee. They are now available in the shop, and will be shipped with your original order. Please order before Friday May 2nd.

If you already have a quality ATX PSU, then you can use this. We will send you a connector FOC upon request.  However, the connector will need soldering, and any damage caused by incorrect wiring, will not be covered.  Please contact me for further details.

Thanks,
Stuart."

No info about X-3 PSU."

Maybe it'll be a coin toss...  Heads, you get a free miner.  Tails, no miner for you!

Or ppl with 1 X1 or an uneven number. already own 50% of an unit that they dont have.. why not giving them 50% discount one X1 + the 25% discount they get on future order so they only need to pay 25% for the unit.

I would define fair as equivalent without favoring any order amount.  Seems under that scheme if you ordered an even number of units you don't get an equivalent compensation.  I would propose even numbered get additional compensation over odd, which can be in the form of free shipping or included psu.  There should also be a compensation option available that does not require any additional costs.  It's not compensation if customers need to pay more, this is just upselling.

That's the solution. So if a x1 is 100 and x3 2000 is a single x3 a x2 at 1000

Just make an X1.5 and have it hash 50% more.

I ment it gets screwed up no longer is it 50% but higher to compensate for the person only buying one then some one else feels they are being screwed because they see they got less. I don't care I'm batch 2 and on the naughty list so get nothing

Why wouldn't that be fair?  If someone orders 1 and gets compensated with 1, someone that orders 10 of the exact same product should also be compensated with 10.  Ratios should match or else you deal with a bunch of issues, what happens if you order 3? Do you get compensated with 2?  What about 9? Do you get 5?  How about even numbers?  Huge can of worms if you do not compensate in equal proportions for all orders.

And this is where it's not fair.

If a single X-1 get's another X-1, I expect my order of 10 X-1 to receive another 10 X-1 also.  The compensation must be fair for all orders.

Where to confirm an order to buy?

Thanks bobsag3. That's good business, I'll buy all my mining equipment from u guys in the future.

Ya think....all for $10,000

http://www.coindesk.com/problems-plague-kncminer-broken-super-jupiters-arrive-doorsteps/

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6396417

+1 - tbh, the only way we'll ever make money on these orders.. is if btc raises to insane value again (which it will possibly do) but, that will be some time i think..

have you ever thought how much hashing power KNC is going to bring to this party including its masive data center, this will dwarf BA hashing power.

This compensation plan can't work.
1. How are they going to have all these extra machines available and fulfill all the batch 1 and 2 orders.
2. If they do manage to ship all these extra machines they are going to flood the market with so much hashing power the difficulty will be so high the minimum you could mine with would be a tera hash machine making that as useless as a 300mhz usb miner.

Damn you can make some serious roi selling the units to people at a knocked price I'm sore Eric.

I ordered 10 X3 in December directly from BA.
If I understood correctly, I'll receive 30x 1Thash units, 10 of them without power supply.

If really I receive all this before the end of May, I'd say I'd be quite happy.
Not sure at all if we'll be able to ROI, but it's not all BA's fault ; if BTC was now $1000 as we all expected in December, this would be another story.

Eric

Is decent only for customers that don't have to spend more money on.

Now orders forced only to acquire the compensation will lead to chaos, cause if you'r in debt with me you can't ask more to clean your debt.

Add the fact that BA had change the chance to buy prospero's single orders to a min quantity of 10. It's perfectly resonable compromise to handle less orders (probably the customes amount was high and this makes me think that batch 1 buyers with single X1 are a big portion involved in this unfair compensation) and now what did they do A compensation that will force them in a complete different direction ( new orders - new payments ).

Perfect way to complicate both customers - vendor side.

I'll quietly waited if they wouldn't try to make me spend more. ( in the case isn't clear, i'll NEVER do it anyway, and BA will be delisted as future vendor ).

(HINT: If they are so bad with margins to think to deliver HW whitout PSU....well give us 2 prosperos both without your super PSU, if they are powered only by +5V and +12V lines, 90% of miners would handle it (probably with a better efficienty using a single PSU for both & haveing less internal heat (witch is better too for efficienty.) BA could be happy with a ton of PSU in magazine to resell recovering part of costs thus deliver a second prospero with less outcome.  For miners that don't accept this ( I'm only talking of direct BA single X1 buyers cause all others seems already happy )you can provide a hosting compensation similar to the old compensation nearly sure that the volume of hashrate needed will be resonable).