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If BA wants to play like grown-ups and have an NDA in effect, then they should've raised the capital themselves to begin with instead of de facto crowdfunding.

NDA of any kind with a project like this is completely unacceptable.

Yet is required by Verisilicon, regardless of funding type.
Then post the NDA. let's all look at it. Please stop posting about fucking cases, nobody gives a shit. We only care that we are losing money. Also, we have no idea you haven't taken over dz coop and basically perpetuated mass fraud on trusting members of the coop. MATT CARSON, remember that fucking name. If you don't go down with this, I will always stay well clear from you, now and in the future.

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If BA wants to play like grown-ups and have an NDA in effect, then they should've raised the capital themselves to begin with instead of de facto crowdfunding.

NDA of any kind with a project like this is completely unacceptable.

Yet is required by Verisilicon, regardless of funding type.
Then post the NDA. let's all look at it. Please stop posting about fucking cases, nobody gives a shit. We only care that we are losing money. Also, we have no idea you haven't taken over dz coop and basically perpetuated mass fraud on trusting members of the coop. MATT CARSON, remember that fucking name. If you don't go down with this, I will always stay well clear from you, now and in the future.
RHA
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And the hot swap power supply is also nice.
It won't be "hot swap" PSU. Yes, probably one could change it while it is still hot, but not without turning the device off.
(Such a thing is possible only with at least two PSUs working in parallel.)
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What is likely, from my experience, is that the people designing the case were given rough dimensions and were told "it's a PC".  So what you have here is a bunch of creative ideas/possibilities that have been generated by the case manufacturer and passed onto BA.  BA will then either choose one, or choose bits and pieces from all of them and then have more renders made.  Once the final design is approved, it gets signed off and sent to production.

Mind you, this is just my interpretation having done this type of work in the past.

That about sums it up...I like the first design. Stackable...I would leave one usb and move any other ports to the back for ease of cable mang. And the hot swap power supply is also nice.
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BA needs to get their asses on fire, and build shit fast!
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Are they keeping these "surprises" under wraps for now cuz they don't want their competitors to catch wind?

This doesn't make monetary sense.  Hype sells units.  This is "suppress" tactics as they missed dates.  Just wait, they'll get a working unit, ship a handful and the hype will return as they slowly churn out units (read: BFL).

BlackArrow:  If you can, as others have insinuated, manufacture the entire backlog in a couple of weeks.  DO IT.  Build and ship to everyone and have READY product like AntMiner.  Selling shovels makes you rich, start building them.
 
The developers Verisilicon are not the ones selling the units. Black Arrow are, so Verisilicon would be more interested in manipulating their own reputation than moving boxes.
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Are they keeping these "surprises" under wraps for now cuz they don't want their competitors to catch wind?

This doesn't make monetary sense.  Hype sells units.  This is "suppress" tactics as they missed dates.  Just wait, they'll get a working unit, ship a handful and the hype will return as they slowly churn out units (read: BFL).

BlackArrow:  If you can, as others have insinuated, manufacture the entire backlog in a couple of weeks.  DO IT.  Build and ship to everyone and have READY product like AntMiner.  Selling shovels makes you rich, start building them.
 
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If BA wants to play like grown-ups and have an NDA in effect, then they should've raised the capital themselves to begin with instead of de facto crowdfunding.

NDA of any kind with a project like this is completely unacceptable.

Yet is required by Verisilicon, regardless of funding type.

Verisilicon requires even approximate dates to be secret?

Yup.
Pretty much the entire thing is under NDA until after the NDA date is passed.
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Quick question about the renders, and I do not know anything about what a render means, but they are just questions I had when looking at them.

Where will the Ethernet port be located?  Some pictures have it on the front, others have it on the back?

Are those USB ports on the front of some of the renders?  What would that be used for?

Some of the renders have a small hole next to the on button, whats that for?

I like the screen and if it shows that information it would be cool, but will there be a way to turn them off?  I dont really need 10+ units stacked together each showing the exact same thing.

IDK if there are any answers for this yet, but just some things I was wondering from looking at the pictures.  

What is likely, from my experience, is that the people designing the case were given rough dimensions and were told "it's a PC".  So what you have here is a bunch of creative ideas/possibilities that have been generated by the case manufacturer and passed onto BA.  BA will then either choose one, or choose bits and pieces from all of them and then have more renders made.  Once the final design is approved, it gets signed off and sent to production.

Mind you, this is just my interpretation having done this type of work in the past.
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If BA wants to play like grown-ups and have an NDA in effect, then they should've raised the capital themselves to begin with instead of de facto crowdfunding.

NDA of any kind with a project like this is completely unacceptable.

Yet is required by Verisilicon, regardless of funding type.
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Heres the latested X1 renders, I believe these are pretty much final.
http://imgur.com/a/KrLrI
Sexy!
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I wish I could say more, but there are going to be a few surprises.  The design is excellent.
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Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom
Heres the latested X1 renders, I believe these are pretty much final.
http://imgur.com/a/KrLrI

Deeply thanks Bob, beautifull, unseen... WHOUA!

Looks much nicer that the original

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Hey, Matt. Does BA give BA re-sellers a discount and an extra 25% frequent flyer miles?  Grin

We get a discount on the equipment yes (lol duh), but all the airfare is 100% out of my pocket. I paid to see them in person because I wanted answers. Harder to dodge when you show up to their office Tongue


But in all fairness, it was a fairly pleasant set of meetings, lots of things that need to be fixed are hopefully going to start, especially communication. The biggest thing I got off the meeting was they are in this for the long run, not just the minion.

EDIT: I WISH I GOT EXTRA MILES.

thanks for the update, good to hear they are in it for the long haul

You guys have to understand... I have just as much exposure as the customers do if not more, due to my legal status as a company etc etc, so I will fight tooth and nail if needed, and they know that.
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Hey, Matt. Does BA give BA re-sellers a discount and an extra 25% frequent flyer miles?  Grin

We get a discount on the equipment yes (lol duh), but all the airfare is 100% out of my pocket. I paid to see them in person because I wanted answers. Harder to dodge when you show up to their office Tongue


But in all fairness, it was a fairly pleasant set of meetings, lots of things that need to be fixed are hopefully going to start, especially communication. The biggest thing I got off the meeting was they are in this for the long run, not just the minion.

EDIT: I WISH I GOT EXTRA MILES.

thanks for the update, good to hear they are in it for the long haul
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Hey, Matt. I just found this seller on eBay claiming to be a reseller of Black Arrow bitcoin miners: rivalnetworksptyltd

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Rival Networks PTY LTD / BitMiners is the exclusive reseller for Prospero BitCoin Equipment

Look forward to you confirming the above to make sure he's legit and, if he is, was he also at the Black Arrow reseller meetup there in the UK?

Thanks, bud.

~Bruno Kucinskas

HAHA 30 GH/s for 1499 for a year!  Thats crazy!  Also funny that under their description it says "Start Mining Now!" and yet this is for a contract that starts in March.  Hilarious

No kidding, I bought 300GH/s mining for $1200 with KnC Neptune miner. 10% upkeep 2...
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Can't comment on the e-bay account, but Rival Networks are BA's Australian reseller.  No they were not at the meeting.
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/resellers.html

Yup, what Flappy said. Beat me to the punch.
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/new-reseller-in-austrlia.html
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Can't comment on the e-bay account, but Rival Networks are BA's Australian reseller.  No they were not at the meeting.
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/resellers.html
hero member
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Crypto Investor ;) @ Farmed Account Hunter
Hey, Matt. I just found this seller on eBay claiming to be a reseller of Black Arrow bitcoin miners: rivalnetworksptyltd

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Rival Networks PTY LTD / BitMiners is the exclusive reseller for Prospero BitCoin Equipment

Look forward to you confirming the above to make sure he's legit and, if he is, was he also at the Black Arrow reseller meetup there in the UK?

Thanks, bud.

~Bruno Kucinskas


Wow,
30GH Mining Contract Start March 1st - $1499
I'd say good luck with that. lol Smiley
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Heres the latested X1 renders, I believe these are pretty much final.
http://imgur.com/a/KrLrI

Deeply thanks Bob, beautifull, unseen... WHOUA!
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