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You are exactly right. The direction this thread is going is to create as much conspiracy theories/FUD as possible. He is not interested in looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion from them. He has already drawn his own conclusion and is attempting to create the evidence to support it. 

Not sure the motives behind it but I have a feeling he may be paid by BFL to troll.

First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. The next time you accuse me of such, do so in front of some live witnesses in front of my face, whereupon both of us will later be placed in some wards: You in the hospital, and me playing the part of somebody's bitch, not saying that'll be a bad thing.  Kiss

You are more than welcome to dispute any facts I post in this thread. If your assessment is valid, then I will retract what was penned.

Starting with...

We do not know who is BlackArrow Matt, let alone what continent he's on.  FACT!
We do not know the name of who represented Black Arrow when Matt Carson met up with him in the UK during his so-called recent visit:  FACT!
Matt Carson never explained why after purchasing the first datacenter in Rolla, MO, along with retrofitting it on his investomer's satoshi, he opted to move the datacenter to a new location sans a vote by the co-op, incurring an expense, then moved it again, incurring another expense, then moved it again to some undisclosed location in Denver, incurring yet another expense.  FACT!

Yet, I'm the one you're calling out on, especially on the latter point, even though this very important issue has been expressed a few times prior by other bitcoiners. I was merely connecting the dots, sometimes skewly, but still to the benefit of those that have moneys tied due to the Group-Buy-Guru guy's vetting process. The only saving grace is that DZ was vetted by John K. who, by the way, is no longer around, before positioning himself as the largest group buy co-op/vetting service less than a month later. DZ even vetted some clown in Florida that's a alt coin guy, who's taking under-performing bitcoin miners off Matt's hands, thanks to a suggestion by a Newbie, at the time, and hosting them at his datacenter paid for by the Sunshiner's investomers.  FACT!

~TMIBTCITW

Where the hell are you getting that I moved so many times? Also the move, along with location #1 and location #2 are fully leased and paid for by Miner Hosting, not any COOP, so technically no permission of any sort was required. I needed to move for capacity reasons, as need far outstripped capacity available in MO.

Where are you now Matt Carson?
He's right here:
https://www.facebook.com/Borito4

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You are exactly right. The direction this thread is going is to create as much conspiracy theories/FUD as possible. He is not interested in looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion from them. He has already drawn his own conclusion and is attempting to create the evidence to support it.  

Not sure the motives behind it but I have a feeling he may be paid by BFL to troll.

First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. The next time you accuse me of such, do so in front of some live witnesses in front of my face, whereupon both of us will later be placed in some wards: You in the hospital, and me playing the part of somebody's bitch, not saying that'll be a bad thing.  Kiss

You are more than welcome to dispute any facts I post in this thread. If your assessment is valid, then I will retract what was penned.

Starting with...

We do not know who is BlackArrow Matt, let alone what continent he's on.  FACT!
We do not know the name of who represented Black Arrow when Matt Carson met up with him in the UK during his so-called recent visit:  FACT!
Matt Carson never explained why after purchasing the first datacenter in Rolla, MO, along with retrofitting it on his investomer's satoshi, he opted to move the datacenter to a new location sans a vote by the co-op, incurring an expense, then moved it again, incurring another expense, then moved it again to some undisclosed location in Denver, incurring yet another expense.  FACT!

Yet, I'm the one you're calling out on, especially on the latter point, even though this very important issue has been expressed a few times prior by other bitcoiners. I was merely connecting the dots, sometimes skewly, but still to the benefit of those that have moneys tied due to the Group-Buy-Guru guy's vetting process. The only saving grace is that DZ was vetted by John K. who, by the way, is no longer around, before positioning himself as the largest group buy co-op/vetting service less than a month later. DZ even vetted some clown in Florida that's a alt coin guy, who's taking under-performing bitcoin miners off Matt's hands, thanks to a suggestion by a Newbie, at the time, and hosting them at his datacenter paid for by the Sunshiner's investomers.  FACT!

~TMIBTCITW

Where the hell are you getting that I moved so many times? Also the move, along with location #1 and location #2 are fully leased and paid for by Miner Hosting, not any COOP, so technically no permission of any sort was required. I needed to move for capacity reasons, as need far outstripped capacity available in MO.

Where are you now Matt Carson?
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Could someone put these annoying Blackarrow theards into one. It is fucking annoying with the whole site flooded with black arrow threads. Btw. if you get scammed I'm sorry for you however if you flood the whole forum with your annoying posts, I hope you get scammed again ... oh yeah and who is blackarrow Cheesy never heard of them anyways ...sounds like mycoin ... no one knew it and no one should care.

Whose sockpuppet is this?

Well he seems to think I deserve to be scammed for complaining about being scammed, sound familiar?

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Note: The discounts for future orders are offered only to customers who have believed in us and continued to support us. This will not be offered to customers who requested refunds and to a small minority who abused or threatened any member of Black Arrow Team.

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blackarrow:
Posted 05 February 2015 - 06:41 AM
http://ecointalk.net/topic/2306-compensation/#entry23372
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have been keeping a list of customers who have been abusive will absolutely not receive any compensation.
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I didn't directly say you deserve to be scammed. However, if you look in this forum and there is only a whole page of blackarrow or whatever theards it is really annoying. Now it is fine.
 If they scammed you sue them.

Really who the fuck are you a new user coming in here and talking shit to people who lost thousands and thousands of dollars to a fucking scam? I'd call you a fucking loser but it's me that's lost.  Sad

Wipe the jizz off your chin and get fucking lost.
legendary
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Could someone put these annoying Blackarrow theards into one. It is fucking annoying with the whole site flooded with black arrow threads. Btw. if you get scammed I'm sorry for you however if you flood the whole forum with your annoying posts, I hope you get scammed again ... oh yeah and who is blackarrow Cheesy never heard of them anyways ...sounds like mycoin ... no one knew it and no one should care.

Whose sockpuppet is this?

Well he seems to think I deserve to be scammed for complaining about being scammed, sound familiar?

...
Note: The discounts for future orders are offered only to customers who have believed in us and continued to support us. This will not be offered to customers who requested refunds and to a small minority who abused or threatened any member of Black Arrow Team.

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blackarrow:
Posted 05 February 2015 - 06:41 AM
http://ecointalk.net/topic/2306-compensation/#entry23372
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have been keeping a list of customers who have been abusive will absolutely not receive any compensation.
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Could someone put these annoying Blackarrow theards into one. It is fucking annoying with the whole site flooded with black arrow threads. Btw. if you get scammed I'm sorry for you however if you flood the whole forum with your annoying posts, I hope you get scammed again ... oh yeah and who is blackarrow Cheesy never heard of them anyways ...sounds like mycoin ... no one knew it and no one should care.

Whose sockpuppet is this?
legendary
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you are truly one mad guy noone has been scammed yet..

Every customer got "scammed", some received worthless miners 6 months to a year late and some like me have received nothing at all.
That post was from 2014 bro
and I paid in 2013, still nothing.
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you are truly one mad guy noone has been scammed yet..

Every customer got "scammed", some received worthless miners 6 months to a year late and some like me have received nothing at all.
That post was from 2014 bro
legendary
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you are truly one mad guy noone has been scammed yet..

Every customer got "scammed", some received worthless miners 6 months to a year late and some like me have received nothing at all.
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Sahibi
Alex Sovu
6-8 Market Place
Reading, Berkshire RG1 6QJ
United Kingdom

Might have to pop in.

Heading to Reading next week and I used to work on Station Road (which connects to Market Place).

http://www.beoffices.com/servicedoffice-locations/south-east/reading

Doubt you'll find anyone
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you are truly one mad guy noone has been scammed yet..
legendary
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Sahibi
Alex Sovu
6-8 Market Place
Reading, Berkshire RG1 6QJ
United Kingdom

Might have to pop in.

Heading to Reading next week and I used to work on Station Road (which connects to Market Place).

According to Matt Carson, Black Arrow's office is no longer located in Reading. It's located at some secret location in London.
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Sahibi
Alex Sovu
6-8 Market Place
Reading, Berkshire RG1 6QJ
United Kingdom

Might have to pop in.

Heading to Reading next week and I used to work on Station Road (which connects to Market Place).
I will gladly tip you if you are able to do this. I have an early preorder I am regretting.
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that is seriously crazy talk...
lending section is basically useless now.
you see how quickly the scam section fills up each week ?? A yr or two ago it was just "blah blah scammed me" thread and I don't remember seeing close to the amount of scam accusation threads.

securities has always been very degenerative... but now their are a small amount of decent ones so I agree that is slightly better.

strong voice doesnt do anything when people can just sign up with tor over and over ( all tho this has been addressed now i think??).. people only get banned if they annoy theymos... forums gets hacked into every month.. noone cares... All the changes need to come from the top.

Tomatocage does a gr8 job as well and he has defnetly stopped people getting scammed and should continue what he does... but unfortunately if that was all it took the scam accusation section wouldnt be getting filled up constantly each week right ?
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Cuddling, censored, unicorn-shaped troll.
nah i wasn't saying what he was doing was wrong.. I know he does help out people with his findings which is  good..
i was just asking why he bothers after 3 years ? take the people in the active miner thread.  that ken guy could come in and post an update saying "hello" and the clowns will convince themselves after 8 pages that "hello" somehow translte to "i'm getting XXnm chips and they will be ready soon"
obviously that was slightly exagerated :] but still... forum has reached critical retardation levels and now newbie restrictions gone its only going to get worse.
Once again, (and I'm sorry for this OT post, Bruno, feel free to shoot a PM and I will delete it), I disagree.
When I joined, about a year ago, there were MUCH more people getting scammed, at least in marketpace and lending subs.
It's maybe a wrong feeling, but it seems to me that efforts have made those places safer. I agree we still need to improve on mining sub, though. There are means to acheive this, though, all we need is some strong voice as Tomato currently operating in lending/scamming, dedicated to issuing warnings in the mining sub.


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nah i wasn't saying what he was doing was wrong.. I know he does help out people with his findings which is  good..
i was just asking why he bothers after 3 years ? take the people in the active miner thread.  that ken guy could come in and post an update saying "hello" and the clowns will convince themselves after 8 pages that "hello" somehow translte to "i'm getting XXnm chips and they will be ready soon"
obviously that was slightly exagerated :] but still... forum has reached critical retardation levels and now newbie restrictions gone its only going to get worse.

Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$.
You're all wrong, there.
We actually need more people like Phin - even though I was very disappointed and wanted to spank his butt after this JK-Dinner-Feast.
He might be wrong, he might be harmful to some legit businesses.

But he just states publicly known facts. Which should be harmless, right?
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Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$.

Au contraire, for I'm still out 1,132 BTC stuck at InstaWallet since April, 2014.

wat

Seriously! At one time, that was ~1.25M+ USD of my own money I couldn't use. Today, it's only about half as much, but I'm pretty sure I could do great things for myself and family then the person who's kindly currently holding it for me.
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And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking!
First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat.

Tell us more about your arrangement please.
You ignored the question.
Question still ignored 9 posts later. For someone so intent on 'shining light on the truth', you appear to be doing a good job at avoiding it.

Because I already answered it, but Alex Sovu/Alex Berk deleted the posts, but luckily for those that don't understand satire, this...

Haha... troll city!  Not a single one will actually take the bet.  It's all about trolling, not telling the truth!

God forbid people like Christian "Xian" Antkow and Darin "Bicknellski" Bicknell (the man who can't even make an ASIC board when other supply ALL of the technology, then tries to tell people who actually make the technology how to do business.  The very height of asshattery.) actually tell the truth in their posts!  It makes much more fun drama to make things up constantly lie about everything.

Go away no one likes you here.

And, to think all my posts were deleted off of Black Arrows thread due to me trolling. Matt Carson's post is definitely a troll post, of which nothing similar to what I've ever posted, I don't recall.

Hey Josh, I got these fuckers believing that you're paying off that bet to me in weekly installments--plus interest. Also, keep that secret among ourselves about that arrangement I made with you to stay out of the BFL threads till at least you pay off your debt to me in full.  Roll Eyes

Also, tell Jody and Sonny I said hi, and my family is doing fine.

MOTHERFUCKER!!! Thanks to this post I'm quoting, I just realized that I stood up for (or behind, no pun intended) Darin during that major blowup between you and him, and that fucker is sticking it up my ass big time over at the Black Arrow threads.

Now, I'm really pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (key stuck)


~TMIBTCITW
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Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$.

Au contraire, for I'm still out 1,132 BTC stuck at InstaWallet since April, 2014.

wat
legendary
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Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$.

Au contraire, for I'm still out 1,132 BTC stuck at InstaWallet since April, 2014.
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This is a long con. I don't doubt that for a second.

Almost took your post seriously until I saw the cex.io link in your signature.

CEX.io isn't a scam, it's just a bad idea if you think you can use it to mine. I use it to trade and for that it's a very good idea if you know what you're doing. It has predictable trading patterns and no fees, it's a trading no brainer. And since I used to be a futures trader, I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing on that front.

So what was your point again? Couldn't find anything in my actual post that you could attack so you pick on my signature instead? LOL



"CEX.io: A bad idea if you think you can use it to mine."

Should be their new slogan. It seems pretty scummy to me that you would advertise such a service you know will not return profit on its investors.

As for your post it really only consisted of "BA is bad mmkay"

Serious question: Have any of you armchair sleuths tried contacting verisilicon (The people making the chips for BA)? Surely you would be able to dig up some shit more convincing than what you have done so far.
I've been waiting and waiting for the pertinent info from bobsag3 in order to do so. I'm still waiting.
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