Topic: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged - page 2. (Read 18078 times)

"CEX.io: A bad idea if you think you can use it to mine."

Should be their new slogan. It seems pretty scummy to me that you would advertise such a service you know will not return profit on its investors.

As for your post it really only consisted of "BA is bad mmkay"

Serious question: Have any of you armchair sleuths tried contacting verisilicon (The people making the chips for BA)? Surely you would be able to dig up some shit more convincing than what you have done so far.

CEX.io isn't a scam, it's just a bad idea if you think you can use it to mine. I use it to trade and for that it's a very good idea if you know what you're doing. It has predictable trading patterns and no fees, it's a trading no brainer. And since I used to be a futures trader, I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing on that front.

So what was your point again? Couldn't find anything in my actual post that you could attack so you pick on my signature instead? LOL

This whole instant love story is very dubious, but it probably requires a brand new post. This one is about MattCarson&associates.
Please create a new thread to discuss about the magic that turned away PG from BFL obvious scams.

Almost took your post seriously until I saw the cex.io link in your signature.

Question still ignored 9 posts later. For someone so intent on 'shining light on the truth', you appear to be doing a good job at avoiding it.

This is a long con. I don't doubt that for a second.

When I pre-ordered an X-1 in December I had plenty of doubt then as well, but I made the conscious decision to do it anyway. My calculation at the time was a pure risk/return calculation that had nothing to do with mining. I was OK with the mining projections, even if they were late (which seemed to be the common complaint regarding pre-orders) but my concern was with the legitimacy of the company and the whole operation. When I first started thinking about it, there was no re-seller in the US so I would have had to order from BA directly. I had to wait a few days to get paid, then transfer the money to the exchange, then wait three more days for it to get there. Well by the time my $300 made it to the exchange, BA changed their order policy from being able to buy 1 X-1 to 10 X-1's. So I was SoL, I couldn't afford one now!!! No big deal, I got some BTC. But then Minersource came along and said, "Hey! We can sell just one, buy from us!" So I decided to check out their site, filled in the personal information to create an account, went to the order page, and placed the order and it said to expect an email with payment details and instructions. The e-mail said to "contact [email protected] to arrange manual bitcoin payment. I sent him an e-mail and I waited. And I waited. A few hours later I get an e-mail from:


It didn't seem very professional to me at all and my doubt meter went up more. I googled the gmail address and found the E-bay mark against him from a few years back, but nothing else. Still, I remember getting that sense that something seemed just a little off. It was then that I made the risk/return calculation. I figured it was only three hundred bucks and I knew there was a good chance I was just throwing it away. And that was the question I asked myself, is it worth throwing away $300 for a chance at mining some bitcoins with the cheapest pre-order available from a company I felt was a little off? And I just did it. And crossed my fingers the risk would pay off.

Then a few weeks later came the news of the "move to the new data center" and my order is no longer on the live site but stuck in the archive site. And I knew then that I threw my money away.

Sure I held out a little hope, I am human after all, but when they announced the delay, I just gave up.

Then good ole PG came along. I appreciate the work you do over there, even if the posts are getting deleted (and how the fuck is that, in and of itself, not a glaring clue for people anyway??? *shakes head*). If you reach even one person who was about the pull the trigger and didn't, that's a win. But there is nothing you can do to save some people from parting with their money, even when they have been informed. People forget to do their due diligence because we've been hand held for so long, that's all. Some lessons are tough to learn, but absolutely necessary...

I know that I won't get my BTC back, even though I have requested a refund, but that's because an informed decision I made turned out to be a bad choice. I can live with that. Unfortunately many other people can't and so they call FUD on you instead. It's easier to believe the lie than face the consequences of the truth.

You're all wrong, there.
We actually need more people like Phin - even though I was very disappointed and wanted to spank his butt after this JK-Dinner-Feast.
He might be wrong, he might be harmful to some legit businesses.

But he just states publicly known facts. Which should be harmless, right?

This thread delivers. +1000 internets for Phinn's sleuth skills.

tbh...why do you bother investigating?
you've been here longer than me i think... tards gonna tard.. can't stop that
someone could sell a piece of crap with a usb cable hanging out of it if the price is cheap enough... I suspect as long as that piece of crap included free shipping everyone would jump on said piece of crap.

Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$.

I believe Phinn as he has done significant investigating and picked up on the pattern of bullshit.

Buddy, it's worst then you think. In fact, it's worst that I originally thought. And to think I did all this shit for free, conducting this discovery because I was probably trolled to help a couple fellow bitcoiners out, all the while literally having it stuck up my ass by fellow bitcoiners, some of which I've donated bitcoins to, and possibly tarnished my reputation. Who the hell would ever vet me now?

Speaking of vetting, unfortunately the super-duper Hawaiian co-op will probably be the next entity to cease operations due to this major, major clusterfuck. There is no way in hell that I, nor any fellow bitcoiners worth their salt would have given Matt Carson light of day. Same true for that clown down in Tampa, among a handful of others vetted by them, all of which will be exposed in due time.

Bottom line, there's not a single person that's associated with Black Arrow that I trust, and don't give a rat's ass if none of them, along with their fanbois, think that I'm the one that's a piece of shit.

Suffice to say, anybody now requesting any refunds from Matt Carson, will NOT ever see a satoshi of their precious bitcoins. But don't worry, you won't ever see a Black Arrow product either. And you can take that to the bank.

~Bruno Kucinskas

sweeeeeet jesus
those pictures are a data centre ?

To recap, bitcoiner investomers, having more money than brain cells, have entrusted a pseudo-vetted, hookah tokin', Black Arrow reseller Bitcoiner, who's been warned before about posting certain images on the internet, but didn't heed the advice, opting to show the world his hookah and Skype contacts, has now been shown that he, Matt Carson, a.k.a. Bobsag3, lied about moving his datacenter, yet, the guy who's called out all this to them, and future investomers, is labeled a fruitcake, and probably dons a pink tutu.

The only saving grace is that there's probably no federal agency in the world looking at some hookah tokin' guy in Denver hosting bitcoin miners sourced from a Romanian once arrested and now sells card skimmers based in the UK using various alias possibly gleaned from stolen credit cards who vets then hires known hackers. Not saying that that's a bad thing, nor not saying that that wouldn't happen in the future. Then again, it ain't my precious bitcoiners at stake based on renderings of vaporware.

Amazingly, nary a person's concerned that Matt Carson blatantly lied about the location of his datacenter in Rolla, MO,... never moving it from facility #1 to facility #2, 90 miles away, as he so claimed, prior to now having it located in Colorado, supposedly.

Do I need to explain the images, or are you guys who's on Matt's Skype list cool with everything after tokin' on his hookah? (revisit pic if you missed it)

Building #1: Purchased, but turned out to be a month-to-month lease: September 23, 2013 -- November 16, 2013

Building #2: November 16, 2013 -- December 30, 2013   NOTE: Images prove that #1 & #2 are the same exact building.

Building #3: December 30 -- To Present

Also, Matt Carson went into great deal of how he retrofitted the first facility, then same with the second facility, mainly pertaining to upgrading the electrical capacities of both.

I wish I was able to lease out buildings on a month-to-month basis and have my tenants upgrade my buildings on their dime. If only I could find such a mark who just so happens to have a forum following who have more money than brain cells, thanks to being vetted by an anonymous escrow guy who operates a co-op outta Hawaii, of which was vetted by an anonymous AWOL escrow guy, also of Hawaii. I would be rich beyond my imagination.


Now, he's in an even bigger warehouse in Denver, CO.

In the image below, the edit time is in CST, my time zone here in Sandwich, IL.

http://www.sitelerhakkinda.org/mukarrer/whois/988545


http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=cardreaderfactory.com&prog_id=GoDaddy

Timeline of Matt Carson's datacenter locations.

BUILDING #1: Purchased the building, awaiting infrastructure.



BUILDING #2: Moving to a better facility here (still in Missouri) located 90 miles away.




Here we are, on November 18th, and Matt still has his datacenter in Missouri at the second facility:




November 26th, edited on the 28th, Matt Carson is still in Missouri at the second facility: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3723600


On December 12, 2013, fresh back from China, Matt Carson posted the following... BTW, still located in Missiouri:


On December 13, Matt Carson hired additional staff to work at his Missouri-based datacenter, to date not mentioning Denver even once.


Four hours later, Matt mentions for the first the move to Denver, right after somebody ask about local pickup since he lives in KC. Did his new hires move to Denver with him?


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/minersourcenet-miner-hosting-llc-cheap-and-secure-hosting-and-sales-288012


BUILDING #3:

Somewhere in Colorado, in some warehouse with 16-18 foot ceilings, ideally well-suited for bitcoin miners that love fiberglass dust sourced from the exposed insulation in the ceilings and walls, blown free from the constantly moving vortex of air due to the industrial-sized air conditioning unit(s). Whatever you do, don't open up that massive overhead door that's probably not well-sealed, otherwise you'll really have the dust a flying.

This has been the third time you're on record in stating that you only moved once. Care to try for a forth time?

~TMIBTCITW

Any references to Alex Sovu have been removed from the thread and even David's post was edited to only mention Matt and not Alex.

What's sad about your post is that you truly believe what you wrote. With your logic, every single person that's not a customer of some Bitcoin related entity that's not on the up-and-up shouldn't bother themselves with helping in the investigation to get to the bottom of things, is that correct?

The legit reason, and there is no other motherfuckin' reason, is that I CARE!!!

Gage,

In all seriousness, why are you so invested in trying to reveal everyone as a scammer? If you were a customer of Minersource or Black Arrow, I would understand spending the time and effort to dig so deep and grasp at straws, but I can't figure out why you care so much?

Honestly, whats your stake in this? All this hate and FUD might make sense if you had an actual interest in these companies, but it's starting to look like you are indeed working for someone with motive to bring these guys down.

I don't know, maybe there is a legit reason behind it, but I'm just not seeing it.