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AliceWonderMiscreations

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Quote from: Soros Shorts on January 30, 2016, 10:24:08 AM

Quote from: CIYAM on January 30, 2016, 09:31:23 AM

You tx is full of "dust" (I assume you've been using faucets or the like to have accumulated that).

If you want to spend "dust" then unfortunately you have to pay more fees to do so (otherwise the network would just get drowned in such txs).

Not quite dust. More like using singles to pay $100.

If time is not of essence these small inputs sitting in people's wallets should just be allowed to age and then consolidated using a low-fee, low-priority transaction. We did this all the time in the old days but it seems like many users today don't even know how.

There should be a button in the client. I don't think there is.

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Quote from: Soros Shorts on January 30, 2016, 10:24:08 AM

Quote from: CIYAM on January 30, 2016, 09:31:23 AM

You tx is full of "dust" (I assume you've been using faucets or the like to have accumulated that).

If you want to spend "dust" then unfortunately you have to pay more fees to do so (otherwise the network would just get drowned in such txs).

Not quite dust. More like using singles to pay $100.

If time is not of essence these small inputs sitting in people's wallets should just be allowed to age and then consolidated using a low-fee, low-priority transaction. We did this all the time in the old days but it seems like many users today don't even know how.

These income seems dust today, but when bitcoin becomes more value in the future, they will be valuable and any signal income can be spent to buy things and incur very little fees.

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Quote from: labwork on January 30, 2016, 10:19:19 AM

Quote from: Amph on January 20, 2016, 10:40:10 AM

Quote from: bitcoin carpenter on January 20, 2016, 10:20:48 AM

It is frustrating how much energy is being wasted. Just scale the blocksize already...

it need consensus, dev don't want to release something that will not gather enough consensus and be useless basically

they are trying to see what the majority want before decide their move

Is there any estimate of how much longer this consensus gathering will take yet? I'm starting to get a little anxious here

it seems that core is the primarely candidate, and the new update is expected around april, so you must until then to have a capacity increase and other cool feature added

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Quote from: CIYAM on January 30, 2016, 09:31:23 AM

You tx is full of "dust" (I assume you've been using faucets or the like to have accumulated that).

If you want to spend "dust" then unfortunately you have to pay more fees to do so (otherwise the network would just get drowned in such txs).

Not quite dust. More like using singles to pay $100.

If time is not of essence these small inputs sitting in people's wallets should just be allowed to age and then consolidated using a low-fee, low-priority transaction. We did this all the time in the old days but it seems like many users today don't even know how.

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Quote from: Amph on January 20, 2016, 10:40:10 AM

Quote from: bitcoin carpenter on January 20, 2016, 10:20:48 AM

It is frustrating how much energy is being wasted. Just scale the blocksize already...

it need consensus, dev don't want to release something that will not gather enough consensus and be useless basically

they are trying to see what the majority want before decide their move

Is there any estimate of how much longer this consensus gathering will take yet? I'm starting to get a little anxious here

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Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:57:44 AM

if i import the wallet into another software can i double spend it back to the network?

That is actually not so easy (as most major nodes will detect and reject any such attempt).

Basically you will have to wait (up to at least 24 hours) for your tx to be dropped from the mempool (assuming it doesn't get confirmed before then) in order to "retry" spending your outputs with a different tx.

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Quote from: CIYAM on January 30, 2016, 09:55:04 AM

Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:52:13 AM

so blockchain's "normal" fee is wrong.. i will email them and let them know..

I don't use their wallet service but perhaps that is the case.

I think your tx will probably confirm but it will take quite a while.

if i import the wallet into another software can i double spend it back to the network?

i dont know how to check how many nodes the tx went to.

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Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:52:13 AM

so blockchain's "normal" fee is wrong.. i will email them and let them know..

I don't use their wallet service but perhaps that is the case.

I think your tx will probably confirm but it will take quite a while.

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Quote from: CIYAM on January 30, 2016, 09:42:24 AM

Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:39:59 AM

i think you are confused..

I'm afraid that you are the one who is confused - the tx consists of inputs and outputs and those inputs are part of your tx.

(if you have no idea about how Bitcoin works then at least pay attention to those that are trying to help you - you did not pay a large enough fee)

so blockchain's "normal" fee is wrong.. i will email them and let them know..

CIYAM

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Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:39:59 AM

i think you are confused..

I'm afraid that you are the one who is confused - the tx consists of inputs and outputs and those inputs are part of your tx.

(if you have no idea about how Bitcoin works then at least pay attention to those that are trying to help you - you did not pay a large enough fee)

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Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:22:20 AM

i used blockchain.info and sent the bitcoin with the "quick send" option..

no real needing to use bitcoin "properly"
i have blockchain.info set to "Normal - Follow the fee policy suggested by the mainline bitcoin client. Recommended"
so its not that im cheap?

but its still not confirmed Sad

ive even tried to spend the output change with a higher fee as suggest by a google search..

Of course you need to know how to use Bitcoin properly. Not every user is the same. I would never touch a web wallet, especially not with larger amounts. Anyhow this is what I saw:

Quote

Fees 0.0001 BTC

Seems too low for a transaction of this size: 11384 (bytes).

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Quote from: CIYAM on January 30, 2016, 09:34:39 AM

Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:33:01 AM

i dont see any dust in my outputs..

You mean your inputs don't you (and I see a very large number of them)?

i think you are confused..

if you are looking at the inputs you are looking at kanos payment address from his pool. not all of those are mine.

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Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:33:01 AM

i dont see any dust in my outputs..

You mean your inputs don't you (and I see a very large number of them)?

Each particular input might not be "dust" but you have to add fees due to the overall size of your tx.

(I'll correct myself that "dust" might not be the right term - but you have many "low-value" inputs which is what is causing your tx to be lower priority)

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Quote from: CIYAM on January 30, 2016, 09:31:23 AM

You tx is full of "dust" (I assume you've been using faucets or the like to have accumulated that).

If you want to spend "dust" then unfortunately you have to pay more fees to do so (otherwise the network would just get drowned in such txs).

i dont see any dust in my outputs..

CIYAM

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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer

You tx is full of "dust" (I assume you've been using faucets or the like to have accumulated that).

If you want to spend "dust" then unfortunately you have to pay more fees to do so (otherwise the network would just get drowned in such txs).

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Quote from: CIYAM on January 30, 2016, 09:24:22 AM

Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:22:20 AM

but its still not confirmed Sad

Please provide a link to your tx.

https://blockchain.info/tx/856dfa8dff5c1c20e7107cc32ac054886582494a834a556c2d4139e664fc3805

i tried to spend the output like it suggests on google search, with a higher fee.. but that didnt work.. it got stuck too.

edit: i also tried electrum to push the raw TX.. it said it did but its been awhile.

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Quote from: aarons6 on January 30, 2016, 09:22:20 AM

but its still not confirmed Sad

Please provide a link to your tx.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 30, 2016, 08:58:03 AM

Quote from: aarons6 on January 29, 2016, 09:53:49 PM

i been waiting for a transaction to confirm for over 24 hours..
it says there is right around 4000 unconfirmed transactions.

it doesnt seem to be catching up.

That is because either:
1) You don't know how to use Bitcoin properly (fee wise);
2) You're doing this on purpose (for whatever reason; there have been people wanting to cause panic);
3) You're a cheap person (no offense).

If you include the recommended fee it is highly likely that your transaction will confirm within the next block. I have never had this problem before as I include the maximum that the Core wallet allows on default settings (or more).

i used blockchain.info and sent the bitcoin with the "quick send" option..

no real needing to use bitcoin "properly"
i have blockchain.info set to "Normal - Follow the fee policy suggested by the mainline bitcoin client. Recommended"
so its not that im cheap?

but its still not confirmed Sad

ive even tried to spend the output change with a higher fee as suggest by a google search..

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Quote from: aarons6 on January 29, 2016, 09:53:49 PM

i been waiting for a transaction to confirm for over 24 hours..
it says there is right around 4000 unconfirmed transactions.

it doesnt seem to be catching up.

That is because either:
1) You don't know how to use Bitcoin properly (fee wise);
2) You're doing this on purpose (for whatever reason; there have been people wanting to cause panic);
3) You're a cheap person (no offense).

If you include the recommended fee it is highly likely that your transaction will confirm within the next block. I have never had this problem before as I include the maximum that the Core wallet allows on default settings (or more).

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Quote from: Rizky Aditya on January 29, 2016, 06:17:52 PM

Quote from: Lauda on January 29, 2016, 06:15:34 PM

Quote from: Rizky Aditya on January 29, 2016, 06:12:59 PM

Quote from: MyBTT on January 26, 2016, 03:33:39 AM

Even with all the backlog, I can always get my transaction confirmed really fast. I really have no problem.

Yeah. This backlog hasn't really had any impact on me. My transactions go through like normal.

In other words, there is currently no backlog and thus the transactions are going through as usually (if you include a fee).

Quote from: AliceWonderMiscreations on January 29, 2016, 05:52:05 PM

-snip-

As interesting as this idea might be, it is off-topic to this thread and thus I will not continue the discussion here.

Ohhh. There is no more backlog. OP said there was and I believed him. That is great then. NO MORE BACKLOG. YAY.

I don't think that there ever was a backlog. If there was one, I never felt the effect on me.

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