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legendary
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October 23, 2017, 09:50:05 AM
Games and Rounds needs to go. There are people farming hundreds of accounts in there with many likely using bots.
But... I like Games and Rounds! In my Newbie-times, when Bitcoin was worth a lot less, it was a great source of Bitcoins. Nowadays I barely use it though.

I'm talking about it needs to go from post count. The entire board is a spam fest. There's no good reason why it should contribute to post count. The Alt coin bounty board needs to go the same way as well. People are massively abusing it to farm accounts. Entire threads of just 'watching', 'interesting', 'waiting for airdrop', 'joined airdrop' 'received airdrop' type posts etc.  

Off topic should also be considered. It's the go-to board for illiterate newbies who know nothing about bitcoin but have heard you can earn here and shitposting account farmers to spam their way through the ranks.
Something similar happens in Politics and Society.
I don't see how discussing about scientific proof whether a god exists or not should give you activity on a bitcoin forum.

The sad thing is people used to actually have decent discussions in there. Now it's just been taken over by shitposters because most people who sign up here have little to no knowledge or interest in bitcoin so struggle to talk about it, but they can talk crap about subjects in there all day hence why they just create utter crap threads. Economics is going the same way now as well.  

Instead of closing Games and Rounds, maybe threads could be self-moderated by default. That also requires an active OP.

Ha, nobody is going to waste time doing that. They don't even look after their signature campaigns so they're not going to care about policing their own thread. I wouldn't be against making alt coin devs responsible for moderating their own threads though and if it becomes full of posts that break the rules then their threads should be trashcanned and accounts banned. Spam from crapcoins takes up the vast majority of moderation time and effort and this isn't something staff should be doing for free.

why not we just report accounts and ban those obviously posting just to gain potential activity? that could be more effective in the long run

Perhaps accounts that have been ignored a high number of times should be reviewed by mods and banned if the mods are confident that the account in question is merely trying to increase activity?  Maybe display the number of times accounts have been ignored (display ignore count)?

The ignore button used to glow different colours with the amount of people who were ignoring that user but it was removed.

hero member
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October 17, 2017, 11:42:56 AM
why not we just report accounts and ban those obviously posting just to gain potential activity? that could be more effective in the long run

Perhaps accounts that have been ignored a high number of times should be reviewed by mods and banned if the mods are confident that the account in question is merely trying to increase activity?  Maybe display the number of times accounts have been ignored (display ignore count)?

Problem is any method to combat this problem can be gamed, and maybe the market will work itself out.  This is happening to some extent: most decent airdrops are sharedrops, and the good sig campaigns (DeepOnion) reject a lot of people.
legendary
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October 17, 2017, 06:15:13 AM
Instead of ignoring posts in some boards, how about ignoring posts containing few characters/words? People will post thanks, hello, and so on which shouldn't contribute to their activity which these posts are still counted as they are made in relevant sections. It's better to ignore them if possible.
copper member
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October 17, 2017, 04:03:25 AM
Off topic should also be considered. It's the go-to board for illiterate newbies who know nothing about bitcoin but have heard you can earn here and shitposting account farmers to spam their way through the ranks.
Something similar happens in Politics and Society.
I don't see how discussing about scientific proof whether a god exists or not should give you activity on a bitcoin forum.

Instead of closing Games and Rounds, maybe threads could be self-moderated by default. That also requires an active OP.
It's not about closing the section, but about removing its contribution towards activity. People could still host and claim giveaways there.

On top of that, there should be a requirement to have a game element that earns Bitcoins on Bitcointalk, not just link to an external streaming site.
We've discussed that in another thread Smiley
global moderator
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October 17, 2017, 02:42:36 AM
Disabling post count on games and rounds and off topic is a big help to me when patrolling. I don't have to refresh every 15 minutes to see atleast 100 posts. What more if it includes ANN threads and bounties.

I think newbies should not be allowed to post in ANN threads or bounties, that would prevent abuse.
legendary
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October 17, 2017, 02:36:35 AM
Games and Rounds needs to go. There are people farming hundreds of accounts in there with many likely using bots.
But... I like Games and Rounds! In my Newbie-times, when Bitcoin was worth a lot less, it was a great source of Bitcoins. Nowadays I barely use it though.
I've managed several campaigns for Rollin in Games and Rounds for more than a year, and given away thousands of dollars worth of Bitcoins. After half a year, I switched to self-moderated threads only, with much stricter rules. I've seen alt-accounts post 8 different posts in an hour, cheating and spamming.
After I made a self-moderated thread, it was very easy to spot anybody who didn't read the strict rules. I have hundreds of accounts blacklisted, and after their posts got deleted they quickly gave up on my thread.

Instead of closing Games and Rounds, maybe threads could be self-moderated by default. That also requires an active OP.
On top of that, there should be a requirement to have a game element that earns Bitcoins on Bitcointalk, not just link to an external streaming site.

Also, abandoned threads like this one should be closed:
Can't believe this thread is still alive... should be closed by moderators.

Just look at siemonangle0007 posts as well. His entire history is almost exclusively saying variants of 'joined the airdrop'. Pointless. Account farmers and sig spammers will love this board.
Why don't you ban him?
legendary
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October 17, 2017, 02:10:57 AM
Yeah, I think most of them are probably just doing it to quickly farm their accounts. I bet half of them probably don't even actually sign up to the bounty. Used to see a similar thing with people saying variants of "I PMd you" when in fact they never even sent a PM and were just trying to boost their post count (telling someone they've PMd them in itself is utterly redundant).
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October 17, 2017, 02:03:58 AM
Bump. The new Bounties section should also be included with this.
Fully agree. Nobody are not even required to write such posts.
legendary
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October 17, 2017, 01:40:52 AM
Bump. The new Bounties section should also be included with this. It's an entire sub forum consisting of posts like this one after the other:

Joined airdrop.. All the best..

Joined Airdrop & thank you for opportunity

Signed up, thanks for that.

Joined airdrop and best of luck

Just look at siemonangle0007 posts as well. His entire history is almost exclusively saying variants of 'joined the airdrop'. Pointless. Account farmers and sig spammers will love this board.
legendary
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October 12, 2017, 12:25:54 AM
Bump.

I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

Games and Rounds needs to go. There are people farming hundreds of accounts in there with many likely using bots. I've even seen hacked accounts reactivate after years of inactivity just to copy and paste someone else's giveaway address or username from an earlier post years ago.

Off topic should also be considered. It's the go-to board for illiterate newbies who know nothing about bitcoin but have heard you can earn here and shitposting account farmers to spam their way through the ranks. An even better solution though would be to remove signatures from ranks somehow and it'll solve the issue we have with people trying to spam their way to x rank or farm dozens of accounts for free.
full member
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February 23, 2016, 05:23:37 AM
Why prohibit giveaways?

No-one's prohibiting anything.
Theymos seems to be thinking about improving the integrity of the ranking system. People will still be able to post whatever crap they like (mods allowing), it just won't feed the spam/sig cycle if it doesn't increase their activity and account value.
There is no downside.

Yep. I think this will benefit most of us. This just proves that theymos is a really hands-on guy..
legendary
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February 23, 2016, 05:16:59 AM
Why prohibit giveaways?

No-one's prohibiting anything.
Theymos seems to be thinking about improving the integrity of the ranking system. People will still be able to post whatever crap they like (mods allowing), it just won't feed the spam/sig cycle if it doesn't increase their activity and account value.
There is no downside.
legendary
Activity: 1988
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February 23, 2016, 05:12:28 AM
#99
Why prohibit giveaways? I don't think the giveaway threads should be considered spammy as users posts their bitcoin addresses to get tipped and some giveaway threads have discussions going on as well like Stunna's threads. That way even Auction and Lending sections have users just posting the template for loans/bids. It makes these sections also similar.

Infact,giveaway's are the most spammy threads that should be taken care of.Have you seen 777COINS giveaway threads? Its the home for Potential Activity hunters.Literally have a look at it.What does give away posts usually have apart from a random digit and a bitcoin address/username ? Not constructive at all.Multiple accounts are made just to participate in the giveaway's with different address.I could talk more but this is just enough.
legendary
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February 23, 2016, 04:51:15 AM
#98
I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

When you say activity does that include post count as well? If so, Games and Rounds for sure. I was actually going to suggest we prohibit forum-based giveaways like we did with the alt coin section but this would be better. I would also vote for Off topic. Can't remember the last time I saw a decent discussion taking place in there but even good threads can quickly get swamped and taken over by spammers but this might actually improve discussion since spammers/farmers will hopefully leave it alone.

Why prohibit giveaways? I don't think the giveaway threads should be considered spammy as users posts their bitcoin addresses to get tipped and some giveaway threads have discussions going on as well like Stunna's threads. That way even Auction and Lending sections have users just posting the template for loans/bids. It makes these sections also similar.
legendary
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February 23, 2016, 04:29:09 AM
#97
I don't think that prohibiting forum based giveaways is a good idea. The giveaways are in bitcoins, so this still have his place. Removing the activity points from this section might finally be a good idea. I went there, and what I saw is panicking.
Investor-based games is not one single bit better.
Nowadays, alomst every ponzi tries to attract investors with some kind of giveaways.
In those threads that don't have active giveaways running, you still see 5-10 people posting their addresses, begging for a tip to test the "program".

I don't know about this section since I did not went there for at least 6 months. From what I know, the betting sites organise prediction competitions (that I won yesterday by the way Cool) that we should keep. There's an obvious farming, but what about keeping them without any activity point ? Another problem come to my mind. The betting sites post half of their post in this section. Then, they would become something like Member while they were Sr. Member. I think that this should be taken in account.
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February 23, 2016, 04:25:01 AM
#96
I don't think that prohibiting forum based giveaways is a good idea. The giveaways are in bitcoins, so this still have his place. Removing the activity points from this section might finally be a good idea. I went there, and what I saw is panicking.
Investor-based games is not one single bit better.
Nowadays, alomst every ponzi tries to attract investors with some kind of giveaways.
In those threads that don't have active giveaways running, you still see 5-10 people posting their addresses, begging for a tip to test the "program".
legendary
Activity: 1120
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February 23, 2016, 04:20:42 AM
#95
I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

When you say activity does that include post count as well? If so, Games and Rounds for sure. I was actually going to suggest we prohibit forum-based giveaways like we did with the alt coin section but this would be better. I would also vote for Off topic. Can't remember the last time I saw a decent discussion taking place in there but even good threads can quickly get swamped and taken over by spammers but this might actually improve discussion since spammers/farmers will hopefully leave it alone.

I don't think that prohibiting forum based giveaways is a good idea. The giveaways are in bitcoins, so this still have his place. Removing the activity points from this section might finally be a good idea. I went there, and what I saw is panicking.
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February 23, 2016, 03:29:04 AM
#94
I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

When you say activity does that include post count as well? If so, Games and Rounds for sure. I was actually going to suggest we prohibit forum-based giveaways like we did with the alt coin section but this would be better. I would also vote for Off topic. Can't remember the last time I saw a decent discussion taking place in there but even good threads can quickly get swamped and taken over by spammers but this might actually improve discussion since spammers/farmers will hopefully leave it alone.
legendary
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February 22, 2016, 11:24:23 PM
#93
Anything in Off Topic and Politics & Society. Actually, since this is a "Bitcoin" forum, how about anything not relating to the discussion of Bitcoin.

Edit: I wanted to make sure it's understood I mean the altcoin section also. Everything in the master sections "Bitcoin", "Economy", and "Local" should count toward activity. Everything in the master sections "Other" and "Alternate Cryptocurriencies" should not count toward activity. This should also be retroactive, meaning anyone with current activity gained through posting in those two major sections should lose those activity points and their post counts should be reduced accordingly.
legendary
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February 22, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
#92
Off-topic is definitely a section that should get excluded. That section is a brewery for account farmers.
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