Topic: Boards that don't contribute to activity - page 3. (Read 5124 times)
They will simply start making posts in meta and else .What is the point of this thread ?
I would suggest finding some boards that should not count towards activity, as I would theorize that the worse of signature spammers both farm accounts (eg collecting potential activity by collecting activity posts by making a single post every two weeks), and spam the forum with paid signatures.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
We should also set a limit of posts counted towards the activity. For example, people can post as many constructive post as they want, but only 6 posts a day can be counted towards the activity.
The only people who would be impacted would be the activity farmers when they are trying to catch up with their potential activity. It will take them longer, but they will still catch up, nevertheless.
I would suggest finding some boards that should not count towards activity, as I would theorize that the worse of signature spammers both farm accounts (eg collecting potential activity by collecting activity posts by making a single post every two weeks), and spam the forum with paid signatures.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
We should also set a limit of posts counted towards the activity. For example, people can post as many constructive post as they want, but only 6 posts a day can be counted towards the activity.
The only people who would be impacted would be the activity farmers when they are trying to catch up with their potential activity. It will take them longer, but they will still catch up, nevertheless.
Yeah, that is a bit of an arbitrary change. I still think the best solution is increasing the activity per day cap such that its out of reach of activity farmers because the 'requirements' for being active are so much higher..
I would suggest finding some boards that should not count towards activity, as I would theorize that the worse of signature spammers both farm accounts (eg collecting potential activity by collecting activity posts by making a single post every two weeks), and spam the forum with paid signatures.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
We should also set a limit of posts counted towards the activity. For example, people can post as many constructive post as they want, but only 6 posts a day can be counted towards the activity.
The only people who would be impacted would be the activity farmers when they are trying to catch up with their potential activity. It will take them longer, but they will still catch up, nevertheless.
I would suggest finding some boards that should not count towards activity, as I would theorize that the worse of signature spammers both farm accounts (eg collecting potential activity by collecting activity posts by making a single post every two weeks), and spam the forum with paid signatures.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
We should also set a limit of posts counted towards the activity. For example, people can post as many constructive post as they want, but only 6 posts a day can be counted towards the activity.
(also very interesting that you created an account to make that very non-controversial statement)
I would suggest finding some boards that should not count towards activity, as I would theorize that the worse of signature spammers both farm accounts (eg collecting potential activity by collecting activity posts by making a single post every two weeks), and spam the forum with paid signatures.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.
We should also set a limit of posts counted towards the activity. For example, people can post as many constructive post as they want, but only 6 posts a day can be counted towards the activity.
..which pings an admin if an account checked with his service meets to many low post quality criteria https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-account-price-estimator-1142314.
Why would you ping an admin?not for off topic, since that page gone stricter, people could not post useless posts anymore.
It has not. You're not looking closely enough. Even though a lot of the threads that were being spammed are locked, the situation hasn't resolved itself.why not just make a rule that these insubstantial posts should be considered as a spam for activity farming and just report it to a mod and immediately be deleted. In that way, the whole board will not be affected but only the shitposts on some threads. Just my opinion. 
What are you implying here? Automatic deletion? If not, then you're not suggesting anything new.Activity means "activity", and should include all posts if one is being a purist.
Posts of barely any to no value should not be counted towards activity. Do you want someone to end up a legendary poster after 1000 posts in the games section? Of course not. 
I guess it depends on what you think a title should reflect. If you want it to refer to technical competence, then exclude all trading and similar boards. Activity means "activity", and should include all posts if one is being a purist. To take an extreme case, if a guy spends his time selling products, and makes no contribution to any Bitcoin discussions, then do you want him to end up as a legendary poster?
14 posts a fortnight is not a lot, you can hit that just by getting into a single argument about politics.
14 posts a fortnight is not a lot, you can hit that just by getting into a single argument about politics.
Would add all of marketplace, end of the day some members only come out of there to defend their reputations. Its a nice aspect to the forum but its pretty self serving in many aspects.
IMO, Not all posts in the games and rounds should not be counted in the activity. I mean, I've seen posts that is substantial in there but barely indeed. So if the games and rounds will be excluded then I guess it's fine.
Also for the other posts o other boards, why not just make a rule that these insubstantial posts should be considered as a spam for activity farming and just report it to a mod and immediately be deleted. In that way, the whole board will not be affected but only the shitposts on some threads. Just my opinion.
Also for the other posts o other boards, why not just make a rule that these insubstantial posts should be considered as a spam for activity farming and just report it to a mod and immediately be deleted. In that way, the whole board will not be affected but only the shitposts on some threads. Just my opinion.
the boards like the 'games and rounds' which can make you a lot of posts should not be counted, because they are barely substantial.
not for off topic, since that page gone stricter, people could not post useless posts anymore.
not for off topic, since that page gone stricter, people could not post useless posts anymore.
Can you write a program to identify all those posts and exclude them in the post or the activity count?
If could do that I wouldn't be moderating, I would be working on the next google.That sounds like something I could write the logic for, but in.... English. Maybe the guy who wrote the account value estimator could write something which pings an admin if an account checked with his service meets to many low post quality criteria https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-account-price-estimator-1142314.
Why? Can you write a program to identify all those posts and exclude them in the post or the activity count?
If could do that I wouldn't be moderating, I would be working on the next google.That sounds like something I could write the logic for, but in.... English. Maybe the guy who wrote the account value estimator could write something which pings an admin if an account checked with his service meets to many low post quality criteria https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-account-price-estimator-1142314.
Can you write a program to identify all those posts and exclude them in the post or the activity count?
If could do that I wouldn't be moderating, I would be working on the next google. 
Auctions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=73.0), since bid posts contribute nothing. Maybe even include all the "listing" sections such as goods, services, currency exchange.
Auctions is a good choice. But, goods, services & currency exchange have lots of constructive discussions.- bumps
- "be sure to use escrow"
- "scammer!!!1!"
- "sale went smoothly"
- questions related to transaction (who goes first, escrow, counter offers, etc.)
- people asking for vouch copies (in digital goods)
- sig spammers asking questions but have no intentions of buying
Can you write a program to identify all those posts and exclude them in the post or the activity count?
Shouldn't the trash board for any Local section, not even be accessible to normal members or is Trashcan the word that most resembles the board?
I don't know why our local trashcan is accessible to any users, including for write, and for what it was created.Russian government pressure.
joking.I think Russian sub is the only board with a "local trashcan". deleted topics from all other local boards goes to the normal trashcan. ofc I may be wrong.
btw the list of recommended board is growing larger... and I see some people recommend the lending section. I don't agree with this. if you're going to exclude all boards that's prone to spam then there's also the gambling section. better to just ban signature campaign in that case.
Shouldn't the trash board for any Local section, not even be accessible to normal members or is Trashcan the word that most resembles the board?
I don't know why our local trashcan is accessible to any users, including for write, and for what it was created. 
Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership. I see legends with hardly any posts. I can't how they are contributing more to the board than those that are active and posting daily.
I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.
That would be a big mess I think, because then all the Legendary members will no longer one, because their activity's value would have been decreased. However, if you multiply the actual aticivty, then everything is okay.
That's what I said isn't it?
I think asking the campaign managers which they think would be good to remove is would be a good start, as they'll know which boards they have to look out for.
That's not exactly what you said. I added that if we do so, the member ranks will be in a way "reseted", except if you multiply the actual activity points.
Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership. I see legends with hardly any posts. I can't how they are contributing more to the board than those that are active and posting daily.
I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.
That would be a big mess I think, because then all the Legendary members will no longer one, because their activity's value would have been decreased. However, if you multiply the actual aticivty, then everything is okay.
That's what I said isn't it?
I think asking the campaign managers which they think would be good to remove is would be a good start, as they'll know which boards they have to look out for.
Shouldn't the trash board for any Local section, not even be accessible to normal members or is Trashcan the word that most resembles the board?
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