Topic: Boards that don't contribute to activity - page 5. (Read 5124 times)

Ack. (am I doing this right?)

I think Micro Earnings would be a good candidate too (yes I do see the irony, considering that it is where I'm most active in).

Regarding off-topic, while there are some good posts once in a while, most of them are not. Perhaps a reduced rate? Like 0.1x or 0.2x? Not sure if that would make the calculation too complicated or not.

I also agree with tmfp that advancement in rank should be based on bitcoin-related forum activities.

It depends on the motivation behind the thinking for excluding certain boards.

This is a Bitcoin forum, advanced ranks based on activity should indicate that member's involvement in bitcoin.

There are posters of hero and legendary rank whose posting history is almost entirely off topic.
If activity was related to core coin subject input only i.e. excluding Off topic, Politics and Society and even Meta then any migration of spammers for sig or farming purposes to the "main reason for being here" boards could be dealt with as normal by the mods.
Some thought could also be put into the proliferation of 'opinion' threads which repeat the same theme time and again, "Is cloudmining etc etc", "Is bitcoin going up?" which are spammers' heaven.

That's if you accept that traffic falling is a price worth paying for credibility.

signature, low quality/off-topic, and other kind of spammers can be handled by the mods. posting on the Games&Rounds board for giveaways or Auction board to bid is not against the rules so the mods mostly don't do anything about them. just do with those boards.

I love the idea of this.  Some  Games & Rounds are a ton of short little post's, it is horrible when you look  at some who frequent it.   It's obvious spamming on some.

Off Topic is hard I avoid it as so many crap posts.  If you can't do it for entire thread maybe mark certain threads:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tv-series-top-10-power-rankings-previously-tv-series-recommendations-551747 - 2700 tv recommendations... no way people read entire thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pictures-from-russia-nsfw-686828 - over 4k posts about Russian pictures.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lets-talk-about-how-hot-asian-girls-are-nsfw-105136 - 3.8 k of Asian girl thread

Those are just a few examples I would love to see off topic as a place that does not count.  Maybe say after 10 or 20 pages in offtopic posts don't count.  It's these huge threads that are just full of utter crap.

It is a nice move to reduce signature spamming as most of the signature spammers hover always over there.
Also I think that there should be a specific rules that should be made which should be mandatory for every signature campaign to have.
Like posting constructive with atleast 70 character or whatever etc. What do you think?

Well I wonder why no one has replied with the obvious candidate, the Press section. Most of the spammers there were banned but some still seem to post there for sig, repeatedly but just after a few other posts in other section to not seem as a spammer.

Another recommendation is Local board's offtopic section. While you're at it, might think about Politics and society and speculation. Seems like the new breeding grounds for "constructive"/Off-topic sig spammers.

Recommendations that I agree- Off-topic, Games and rounds(obvious choice) and Auction

And well digital goods do have constructive posts, they should not be "deleted"/not contribute to post count for the sake of a few spammers.

Edit: Also, don't the auto-sig bots take the posts from "Last posts" and discard the posts in non-paid sections? Pretty sure Bitmixer and Yobit won't change the script as their signature will still be displayed. Although this will stop a lot of potential activity farmers from making useless posts

That's why we call it with "OUT OFF TOPIC" so people can say anything there 

As much as OffTopic can be a breeding ground for spam, those same spammers would then turn to the bitcoin forum.
Games and rounds for sure should not count.

Been coming across a lot of posts that appear to be c/p and altered by one or two words. A spam rating might work better if we members clicked when we saw it. Would flag accounts for mods to check up on.
End off, any alteration will force it somewhere else.Wackamole!

I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.

I agree with this to an extent.  Date of registration sometimes means something, often times it doesn't.  There are so many old accounts in old threads that are still Jr. members because they've been abandoned.

As far as categories that shouldn't contribute, yeah games and rounds.  And I have to say, investor-based games is a haven for ponzi promoters and people who just post there for sig campaigns.  Almost like the lending section, but that section is mostly legit.

Coding that would easy, especially in SMF.


~BCX~

I would agree on this.

why not we just report accounts and ban those obviously posting just to gain potential activity? that could be more effective in the long run

Investor based games often have threads which the OP of such threads encourage "players" to both post when they "invest" and when they have their "investments" returned (they are essentially getting people to bump their thread for them).

I would agree with the auctions sub not counting, especially posts that are not an OP considering that some auctions are sig spam heaven in that the minimum bid increment is sometimes ridiculously small like 1 satoshi.

I am not so sure about the other marketplace sections though, as even though the above types are posts are generally useless and made by sig spammers, there is somewhat of an incentive for people to warn others about shady dealings, and when things don't (or do) go smoothly if such posts "count" towards post/activity count.

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I suspect the goal behind this is to reduce signature spam throughout the forum, and if this is a true statement then I would suggest that posts throughout the forum count towards a user's post count, but certain sections do not count as posting towards posting in an "activity period". The reason for this is that if a particular section did not count towards a user's post count, but a signature campaign wanted to encourage participants to post in such section then the campaign manager can manually count posts in that thread from a user's post history -- the opposite is true today in that all posts count towards post history, but for example campaigns want to discourage people from making low quality posts in "off topic" so they manually exclude posts made in off topic.

I would suggest finding some boards that should not count towards activity, as I would theorize that the worse of signature spammers both farm accounts (eg collecting potential activity by collecting activity posts by making a single post every two weeks), and spam the forum with paid signatures.

Another potential solution would be to make it so you need more then a single post made in a two week period in order to collect the (potential) activity points. It could either be setup so that you need to make at least 4 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts in order to collect the 14 activity posts, or so that you both need to make at least 2 (or some other number equal to or less then 14) posts and be online at least 2 hours (or some other amount of time) during that activity period in order to collect the activity points. Yes time online can easily be faked, however it is at least a small hurdle for people who are spamming the forum in order to collect potential activity points.

That isn't actually possible. You can't distinguish between when a user had a sig on or not and whether that sig is a campaign or not without going in and manually doing stuff.

You should consider making any post with a Sig Campaign not count towards activity.


~BCX~

Might aswell include Lending in that list.

Like what? What's pretty much there:

• bumps
• "be sure to use escrow"
• "scammer!!!1!"
• "sale went smoothly"
• questions related to transaction (who goes first, escrow, counter offers, etc.)
• people asking for vouch copies (in digital goods)
• sig spammers asking questions but have no intentions of buying

Not really, at least for my site, you just need to configure it to exclude those boards in the counting. Since it already looks for the board, all you have to do is change it so that it checks the board before incrementing a counter.

I think off-topic would be a good choice as well as politics and society.

Theymos, can you let us know when you set those changes to go live so that those of us with potential activity checkers (like me) can update our sites accordingly?

Auctions is a good choice. But, goods, services & currency exchange have lots of constructive discussions.