Topic: Boards that don't contribute to activity - page 4. (Read 5124 times)
I think it'd be a nice feature if mods could mark certain topics that turn spammy so that people replying wouldn't earn activity points. This way it wouldn't be possible to make topics in off-topic solely for activity farming.
I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.
"Off-topic" is the best candidate.I would like to offer a few Russian subsections:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0 - Политика
It's "Politics & Society" analogue but only about politics.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=18.0 - Разное
"Off-topic" analogue.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=92.0 - Корзина
"Trashcan" analogue.
Off-topic has been cleaned recently, so I think that it is no longer a problem. About Games and rounds, what I see when go there is a wall of giveaways.
It is a problem. You have not looked at it directly enough. There are all kinds of problems there ranging from 'thread hijacking' to people who have not even read the OP (not to mention the posts from other people). Why would people don't get activity when they post there ? You just have to lookk at their post history to see what kind of poster it is.
They are just spamming the section. Those posts don't deserve to be counted nor should they contribute to the activity.This is an endless debate.
Exactly. Let's not start the debate in this thread. Plus, they couldn't.
We can.EDIT: Also, add the address staking thread to that list. Full of post count padders.
The original idea behind the thread was great, but it ended up being abused. I guess there should be at least some minimum rank to post in it (e.g. Hero). 
Games and rounds, and off topic.
Shit, have you seen all the spam back there? It's a hurricane of spam.
Shit, have you seen all the spam back there? It's a hurricane of spam.
Off-topic has been cleaned recently, so I think that it is no longer a problem. About Games and rounds, what I see when go there is a wall of giveaways. Why would people don't get activity when they post there ? You just have to lookk at their post history to see what kind of poster it is.
Games and rounds, and off topic.
Shit, have you seen all the spam back there? It's a hurricane of spam.
EDIT: Also, add the address staking thread to that list. Full of post count padders.
Shit, have you seen all the spam back there? It's a hurricane of spam.
EDIT: Also, add the address staking thread to that list. Full of post count padders.
The root cause of this idea were the signature spammers so why don't just ban signature campaigns?
This is an endless debate. They incentivise people to post, so this get more money for the admins because there is more views. I don't think that they'll ban it. Plus, they couldn't.
The root cause of this idea were the signature spammers so why don't just ban signature campaigns?
I see no reason why off topic should count as activity.
That whole section is big garbage can of trash.
That whole section is big garbage can of trash.
And this implementation will also have some downsides. Will this have a effect on past posts? I'm pretty sure most users will lose most of their activity.
I myself would. And yet I'm fully for it.Also users like Xialla, many of the mods and current trusted members will downgrade to a lower rank
No. As long as you've posted in other sections in the time periods you should be fine.Cool, but are everyone up for it?
There has yet to be a single valid reason not to do this. And this implementation will also have some downsides. Will this have a effect on past posts? I'm pretty sure most users will lose most of their activity. Also users like Xialla, many of the mods and current trusted members will downgrade to a lower rank
I myself would. And yet I'm fully for it.
And this implementation will also have some downsides. Will this have a effect on past posts? I'm pretty sure most users will lose most of their activity. Also users like Xialla, many of the mods and current trusted members will downgrade to a lower rank
I myself would. And yet I'm fully for it.Investor-based games - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0
Why? I don't read that section, but I feel like most of the posts there should be fairly substantial and contribute to a person's "record".For example here or here.
Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership. I see legends with hardly any posts. I can't how they are contributing more to the board than those that are active and posting daily.
I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.
That would be a big mess I think, because then all the Legendary members will no longer one, because their activity's value would have been decreased. However, if you multiply the actual aticivty, then everything is okay.
In case you implement that certain sections will not count as activity, will i then work retrospectively? - So previous activity earned in those section will be removed?
Or is it possible to make a cut-date, so from this day and forth will activity in the mentioned sections no longer count?
Personally I think the cut-date is the better choice, if possible.
Or is it possible to make a cut-date, so from this day and forth will activity in the mentioned sections no longer count?
Personally I think the cut-date is the better choice, if possible.
I totally agree with that, but I don't think that it will be possible.
naw. any kind of change should affect everyone. old or new. else it wouldn't be fair for the new users (IMO).
also about the activity/rank requirement thing. unless I misunderstood something multiplying users' activity is the same as changing nothing.
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btw I am fully aware that 21% of my posts is on the Off-Topic board.
If this was to stop potential account farmers, and people who later shit post to claim the potential activity from their newly bought account. Awesome job theymos
If this was to stop spam from yobit/bitmixer/betco/bit-x or any upcoming signature campaign participants, that uses Bot for managing campaigns. This won't work.
1) The bots use Last posts, to calculate post count and pay
2) They won't change it as they are getting their signatures displayed in those sections.
3) If they did want their participants to not spam, they'd rather block the sections themselves.
And this implementation will also have some downsides. Will this have a effect on past posts? I'm pretty sure most users will lose most of their activity. Also users like Xialla, many of the mods and current trusted members will downgrade to a lower rank
If this was to stop spam from yobit/bitmixer/betco/bit-x or any upcoming signature campaign participants, that uses Bot for managing campaigns. This won't work.
1) The bots use Last posts, to calculate post count and pay
2) They won't change it as they are getting their signatures displayed in those sections.
3) If they did want their participants to not spam, they'd rather block the sections themselves.
And this implementation will also have some downsides. Will this have a effect on past posts? I'm pretty sure most users will lose most of their activity. Also users like Xialla, many of the mods and current trusted members will downgrade to a lower rank
Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership. I see legends with hardly any posts. I can't how they are contributing more to the board than those that are active and posting daily.
I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.
That would be a big mess I think, because then all the Legendary members will no longer one, because their activity's value would have been decreased. However, if you multiply the actual aticivty, then everything is okay.
In case you implement that certain sections will not count as activity, will i then work retrospectively? - So previous activity earned in those section will be removed?
Or is it possible to make a cut-date, so from this day and forth will activity in the mentioned sections no longer count?
Personally I think the cut-date is the better choice, if possible.
Or is it possible to make a cut-date, so from this day and forth will activity in the mentioned sections no longer count?
Personally I think the cut-date is the better choice, if possible.
I totally agree with that, but I don't think that it will be possible.
In case you implement that certain sections will not count as activity, will i then work retrospectively? - So previous activity earned in those section will be removed?
Or is it possible to make a cut-date, so from this day and forth will activity in the mentioned sections no longer count?
Personally I think the cut-date is the better choice, if possible.
Or is it possible to make a cut-date, so from this day and forth will activity in the mentioned sections no longer count?
Personally I think the cut-date is the better choice, if possible.
You guys are optimistic. I foresee there would still be the same amount of spamming, except that there would also be a lot of people asking why their activity is not increasing.
There wouldn't. People would be unable to farm accounts to higher 'levels' in these sections anymore. There are two likely outcomes:1) They stop posting.
2) They try spamming other sections.
With the second case it will be easier to detect as contributing to other sections is significantly harder (i.e. you have to put in more time for a decent post).
Indeed. You make a very good point there. A genuine contributor would not care that much about his posts/activity not being counted; he would care more about the discussion itself. I believe that including off-topic will even significantly reduce the spam/account farming that has been going on there.
You guys are optimistic. I foresee there would still be the same amount of spamming, except now there would also be a lot of people asking why their activity is not increasing.
Surely that's an excellent reason for including it then?
If a genuine contributor wants to make a genuine Off Topic contribution, why would its not counting to activity make any difference?
Indeed. You make a very good point there. A genuine contributor would not care that much about his posts/activity not being counted; he would care more about the discussion itself. I believe that including off-topic will even significantly reduce the spam/account farming that has been going on there. If a genuine contributor wants to make a genuine Off Topic contribution, why would its not counting to activity make any difference?
Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.
This is already a harder proposal. I've seen and took part of some decent discussions there, albeit they are mostly polluted with people that have signatures and do not read any previous replies.Surely that's an excellent reason for including it then?
If a genuine contributor wants to make a genuine Off Topic contribution, why would its not counting to activity make any difference?
Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity.
Definitely a yes. Those posts do not deserve to be counted and are mostly what I'd classify as spam (or sig. spam).Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.
This is already a harder proposal. I've seen and took part of some decent discussions there, albeit they are mostly polluted with people that have signatures and do not read any previous replies.Auction
I concur.Might aswell include Lending in that list.
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