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Quote from: Mrchristo on August 01, 2020, 10:09:53 AM

I think the issue of compelling projects to make a deposit for the smooth running of bounty program In order to avoid the issue of disappointment on the part of the hunters can be emphasised by the bounty manager.

If the developers can provide the allocated amount of rewards in the hands of escrow or with bounty manager itself,
it's serves as an assurance to the campaign participants that they'll be
able to receive the promise rewards.

Quote from: Mrchristo on August 01, 2020, 10:09:53 AM

I know some bounty manager that guarantees the payment for bounty hunters.

Some managers are wise enough not to let their names being sacrifice so they'll make sure that the tokens
are in safe hands before accepting the
project.

Asuspawer09

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Seems to be a good idea for the bounty hunters to avoid scams here in the forum by the bounty projects.

But I think a lot of projects is not gonna agree with this, but maybe if they have a good capital they could somehow pay some amount for insurance of the bounty, so that bounty hunters would still get a certain amount of money even if the project is not successful of even if the project fails.

There are a lot of suggestions about bounty projects scam but I guess it is not moderated so forum do not really do actions about it.

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The use of Escrow is a great option to prevent the issue of unpaid reward. Labelling the project as scam for not paying bounty hunters may not have a significant adverse effect on the project and doesn't add anything to the bounty hunters who are only interested in getting paid.

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I think this is a good idea. It looks like a guarantee for bounty hunter. Lets say this idea really happen i think small project will get a smaller chance to survive. I mean they on early stage of development they dont have money to advertise their project.

if all bounties are like that, there will be lots of good bounties from good projects that will come here,
of course that's good news for us, hopefully someday it will be like that

I don't think there are bounty campaigns that can be like that anymore because I see that there are not too many bounty campaigns now that can provide a lot of results because there are already few projects that are developing so in my opinion it's better to try to look for work besides becoming a bounty hunter.

Mrchristo

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I think the issue of compelling projects to make a deposit for the smooth running of bounty program Inorder to avoid the issue of disappointment on the part of the hunters can be emphasised by the bounty manager. I know some bounty manager that guarantees the payment for bounty hunters.

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I think this is a good idea. It looks like a guarantee for bounty hunter. Lets say this idea really happen i think small project will get a smaller chance to survive. I mean they on early stage of development they dont have money to advertise their project.

if all bounties are like that, there will be lots of good bounties from good projects that will come here,
of course that's good news for us, hopefully someday it will be like that

Well, many can dream all they want about the ramblings of the OP. But let's get this straight. If you look at the nature of the bounties, these are like crowdfunding projects, many and I mean so many of them starts from scratch without any money when they first announced the bounty. So my question now is, how will they be able to do escrow, and where will they get the money before the bounty if there is no money to begin with? Also, entering a bounty campaign is like the lotto, you don't know if the project will become successful or not, you can never tell and the developers won't too. If it becomes successful then you will become a happy camper, if not then good luck the next try. I got it where they are coming from when they discuss matters such as these, but it is not effective for nearly all of the bounties that happened and will happen.

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Quote from: bbcolex on August 01, 2020, 07:52:41 AM

Escrow and Bounty managers play a vital role for me before choosing a project, I participated some project who lacks Bounty Manager most of them end up of non payment. But still some project where I joined with Bounty managers turned as scam or nonpayment. I guess it really depends on the market force and how much they collect from ICO or IEO, they cant pay if they dont have the fund to pay.

We won't get payments from the company based on the funds they collected in IEO, even some companies will scam their bounty participants even after collecting a good amount of fund during their IEO but failed to deliver the payments for the bounty participants.

Bounty Hunter likes to gamble if you choose the current project. indeed not many pay even with IEO many who scam and do not pay campaign participants. We have seen it a lot, not many IEO projects are successful with sales.

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Quote from: qomariah95 on August 01, 2020, 05:51:34 AM

Because payments are late or even participants are not paid. It is a common thing for us, because that is very difficult to find projects that do bounty campaigns, the payment is certain. That's why I prefer to look for bounty campaigns whose allocation uses Escrow or also see well-known bounty managers. So there is hope for us to get payment.

Either campaign Manager or escrow are major things for which one might be looking at because this would sort of ensure them that the payment would be done. Then it is the luck and research that how the coins get listed or what is the future value and how long it can go and sustain it. Though not all projects are worth investing or promoting it. So, needs to be careful about it.

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I mean, escrow is as perfect solution to secure bounty payments as it gets, but on the other hand, if a project is early in its development and did not run its token sale yet, what can stop them to simply change the contract of the token after the bounty to avoid paying bounty participants. It would definitely damage their reputation, but if their intention from the beginning is to scam bounty hunters, they are screwed, escrow or not.

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Quote from: BayAngelo on February 29, 2020, 08:46:59 AM

Will it be wise if this forum put up a request that ALL NEW PROJECTS EXPECTING TO RUN BOUNTIES SHOULD PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS BEFORE CONDUCTING ANY BOUNTY OR run an ESCROW.
The fund will be use to settle hunters should incase project owners Refuse to pay hunters Or decides to play tricks with hunters payment after a successful bounty campaign. For over a long period, hunters has been crying and wailing about successful campaigns that has refused to make payment. there are new campaigns on-going and more projects will run bounty campaigns sooner or later. the issue of payment is still a lingering problem here with No solid profound solution. Apart from the fact that some projects has the ANN Thread labelled as SCAMS, it is still do not offer solutions to payments.

the idea above is just a suggestion.. we all hope that a perfect solution will solve this issue of projects refusing to settle hunters here and will promote this platform.

The problem is that no one will do the things you stated in the above mate. Of course each project owner of the campaign their priority
is to collect fund before they give the rewards to each participants who will gonna help them to promote their project here in this field industry. So, this is a matter of trust and believed for the bounty hunters that's why there is risk always for every bounty hunters.

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This forum can't be a 3rd party place to verify if a bounty project has paid a certain amount of funds or escrow. No mod or staff want to take up the responsibility for that kind of job. There is the bounty manager but there are the good ones and the bad ones too. If the bad manager cahoots with the scam project and tells you he did receive the fund but he didn't, what will you do? That why don't join any bounty project without any check up the team, the bounty manager, the funds,...

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Escrow and Bounty managers play a vital role for me before choosing a project, I participated some project who lacks Bounty Manager most of them end up of non payment. But still some project where I joined with Bounty managers turned as scam or nonpayment. I guess it really depends on the market force and how much they collect from ICO or IEO, they cant pay if they dont have the fund to pay.

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Because payments are late or even participants are not paid. It is a common thing for us, because that is very difficult to find projects that do bounty campaigns, the payment is certain. That's why I prefer to look for bounty campaigns whose allocation uses Escrow or also see well-known bounty managers. So there is hope for us to get payment.

TopTort777

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What I am saying, that Bounty Detective are not responsible for guaranteeing funds. They do not escrow anything.
I dont understand why people count them good. Just for running lots of campaigns? But this is not a sigh of being good. They are just popular. But the amount of successful campaigns under their managements is low. The amount of campaigns, who got listed is even lower.

Compared to bubbalex, whos campaigns are listed and distributed for 99%, they are nothing.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 01, 2020, 04:00:08 AM

Quote from: Doranile432 on August 01, 2020, 01:06:07 AM

So far this year bubbalex and bounty detective are the best two bounty managers that are more reliable, getting paid from any project from this two bounty managers is guaranteed, stay away from projects that are managed by new team or self moderated bounty threads

In 2020 they ran about 15 campaigns. About 5 of then distributed rewards to hunters, and among this 5, only 3 campaigns got listed. Why the hell they are reliable? Why do you think they guarantee that hunters will get paid? Because they write in topic “we guarantee payment”? I can write in my profile that I’m Satoshi, but that doesnt mean truth.

When KingCasino scammed, they said that it is bounty hunters problem that they wasted time on it - even though they guaranteed the hunters will get paid.

If you dont believe my words - visit their profile, go to topics they create and check one by one. Spreadsheets are all public. Check “how they guarantee hunters getting rewarded”, visit randomly eth address in the spreadsheet and search for bounty tokens. Also visit projects pages, check where they are listed, check if they even continue working on project.

Are you saying that bounty detective is lying that they are using escrow strategy to settle bounty hunters? Wow this is something I will like see how it goes, to me bounty detective is fair but bubbalex is just more better

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Quote from: Doranile432 on August 01, 2020, 01:06:07 AM

So far this year bubbalex and bounty detective are the best two bounty managers that are more reliable, getting paid from any project from this two bounty managers is guaranteed, stay away from projects that are managed by new team or self moderated bounty threads

In 2020 they ran about 15 campaigns. About 5 of then distributed rewards to hunters, and among this 5, only 3 campaigns got listed. Why the hell they are reliable? Why do you think they guarantee that hunters will get paid? Because they write in topic “we guarantee payment”? I can write in my profile that I’m Satoshi, but that doesnt mean truth.

When KingCasino scammed, they said that it is bounty hunters problem that they wasted time on it - even though they guaranteed the hunters will get paid.

If you dont believe my words - visit their profile, go to topics they create and check one by one. Spreadsheets are all public. Check “how they guarantee hunters getting rewarded”, visit randomly eth address in the spreadsheet and search for bounty tokens. Also visit projects pages, check where they are listed, check if they even continue working on project.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on August 01, 2020, 01:53:30 AM

We should not impose on this forum what we want or what will serve us, the moderators and the management has so many things to attend to besides getting involve on these new projects, why not do your won research it's always been joined at your own risk, do not create a certain privileges here for bounty hunters.

I think everyone here has a freedom of speech and discussing some things that can help for a better bounty management is not prohibited. Everyone can open and can give an opinion for the good of all.

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Quote from: Jating on February 29, 2020, 10:02:19 AM

I understand your ramblings, but if you look at bounties, the project doesn't have the funds initially, most of the time the project started from scratch when they announced it. So what are they going to escrows or where do the money should come when in the first place they don't have any.

I understand our suggestions, but I don't think it will be effective for the 99% of the projects that we have right now.

Exactly, but projects managers need to understand that they need to have some capital to start a project. If they don't have enough funds to start a project, they shouldn't start or organize bounty campaigns. People can't waste their time promoting projects and do not get paid for their effort. Personally, I think moderators on this forum can put something in place to avoid project managers from making a fool out of Bounty hunters.

This solution is actually very solid and has been discussed a long time ago but it hasn't been worked out until now, I am still at my goal before joining a bounty must be careful checked in detail if work hard, you want to pay

The only party who can fix it should be on the developer but remember the purpose to hold an ico to raise the funds for the development purpose. Sometimes a new project that has been getting private investors can create a campaign that was using a stable point to give guarantee for promoters. When the dev has no money and we can do nothing about that.

but at least they or dev fulfill the promise to the hunter too, we know investors are in top priority but they cannot abandon the hunter for that reason. every project will look good if they think about the slightest contribution that others have made to it.

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We should not impose on this forum what we want or what will serve us, the moderators and the management has so many things to attend to besides getting involve on these new projects, why not do your won research it's always been joined at your own risk, do not create a certain privileges here for bounty hunters.

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So far this year bubbalex and bounty detective are the best two bounty managers that are more reliable, getting paid from any project from this two bounty managers is guaranteed, stay away from projects that are managed by new team or self moderated bounty threads

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