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Topic: [Boxing]: Ancajas vs Martinez - Feb 26, 2022 (Read 1969 times)

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February 28, 2022, 08:32:09 AM
Locking this thread for good. Whether we will see a rematch, depends on their promoter. I know that majority here loses money on Ancajas, but we can always recover and bounce back on other fight. And congrats to Martinez and we do hope that Jerwin will learn a lot from this fight and comeback strong.
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But I do agree that there's no need for a rematch, there is no robbery whatsoever, it was a clear victory for Martinez. I know that it's hard to swallow that a Filipino who is one of the longest champion was defeated by a unknown boxer.
Championship can be contested for any boxer ranking including newcomer against the boxer with longest championship, it is not impossible that there will be a surprise after the bell rings and then only the strong boxer is leading the match until the winner is announced, Martinez deserves the championship and he feels the thrill of victory overwhelming for victory his first in the Las Vegas ring.
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^^ Perhaps as former champion he just wanted to show that Martinez win against him is a fluke so we basically wanted revenge.

But I do agree that there's no need for a rematch, there is no robbery whatsoever, it was a clear victory for Martinez. I know that it's hard to swallow that a Filipino who is one of the longest champion was defeated by a unknown boxer.
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That's it. The fighter Jerwin Ancajas lost to another fighter Fernando Martinez. That fight, which actually means the IBF super flyweight title, was won fair and square. Ancajas didn't have the arsenal to either stop Martinez or outpoint or outstyle him. Martinez was simply the better boxer. One of the two undefeated fighters will have to have 1 loss.

Ancajas will have lessons learned though. That's another experience for him on different kinds of boxers. The next time he faces another Martinez he knows how to handle him already.
I don't agree with another rematch they have a saying in boxing styler makes a fight, that's Ancajas way of fighting he goes toe to toe and gives his best punch and all he faced in the fast cannot keep up with his punches, unfortunately, in this fight, he had this guy who can take big punches and can throw volume of punches that throws him out of his game, even if you are a hard puncher but if you get hit dozens of punches you will be thrown out of your game.

I am also not in favor of a rematch. The fight was a clear victory for Fernando Martinez. There is no reason for the camp of Jerwin Ancajas to protest and demand for a rematch. There is nothing to settle in a second fight. Jerwin Ancajas was outclassed by Martinez. Martinez was a clear winner. He won it via unanimous decision with two 118-110 scorecards and one 117-110.

What I meant when I said, "The next time he faces another Martinez he knows how to handle him already", is that Martinez's way of fighting is a lesson for Jerwin. The next time Jerwin faces a fighter who fights just the way Martinez did, he should know what to do.
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That's it. The fighter Jerwin Ancajas lost to another fighter Fernando Martinez. That fight, which actually means the IBF super flyweight title, was won fair and square. Ancajas didn't have the arsenal to either stop Martinez or outpoint or outstyle him. Martinez was simply the better boxer. One of the two undefeated fighters will have to have 1 loss.

Ancajas will have lessons learned though. That's another experience for him on different kinds of boxers. The next time he faces another Martinez he knows how to handle him already.

That is just how it is, it means that becoming the next Manny Pacquiao is almost impossible for this young generation because the motivation and their conditioning are not enough. Though he did all he can, it's not enough to beat Martinez, and finally, Martinez beat him as if he already knew the fight will be easy in the first place. Well, Congrats to him for winning this fight, and may he gonna improve in his next bout.

Manny Pacquiao's achievement his a hard act to follow, and judging on this fight alone, Jerwin is way too far from what Manny's achievements. He seems not passionate and just give up with this fight as he clearly lacks of preparations and conditioning. Elite fighters doesn't just throw a match, he could've used his height advantage. He went toe to toe the whole fight which clearly he has no chance of winning, especially with lack of footwork, head movements, and stamina lol.
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That's it. The fighter Jerwin Ancajas lost to another fighter Fernando Martinez. That fight, which actually means the IBF super flyweight title, was won fair and square. Ancajas didn't have the arsenal to either stop Martinez or outpoint or outstyle him. Martinez was simply the better boxer. One of the two undefeated fighters will have to have 1 loss.

Ancajas will have lessons learned though. That's another experience for him on different kinds of boxers. The next time he faces another Martinez he knows how to handle him already.

That is just how it is, it means that becoming the next Manny Pacquiao is almost impossible for this young generation because the motivation and their conditioning are not enough. Though he did all he can, it's not enough to beat Martinez, and finally, Martinez beat him as if he already knew the fight will be easy in the first place. Well, Congrats to him for winning this fight, and may he gonna improve in his next bout.
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That's it. The fighter Jerwin Ancajas lost to another fighter Fernando Martinez. That fight, which actually means the IBF super flyweight title, was won fair and square. Ancajas didn't have the arsenal to either stop Martinez or outpoint or outstyle him. Martinez was simply the better boxer. One of the two undefeated fighters will have to have 1 loss.

Ancajas will have lessons learned though. That's another experience for him on different kinds of boxers. The next time he faces another Martinez he knows how to handle him already.
I don't agree with another rematch they have a saying in boxing styler makes a fight, that's Ancajas way of fighting he goes toe to toe and gives his best punch and all he faced in the fast cannot keep up with his punches, unfortunately, in this fight, he had this guy who can take big punches and can throw volume of punches that throws him out of his game, even if you are a hard puncher but if you get hit dozens of punches you will be thrown out of your game.
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That's it. The fighter Jerwin Ancajas lost to another fighter Fernando Martinez. That fight, which actually means the IBF super flyweight title, was won fair and square. Ancajas didn't have the arsenal to either stop Martinez or outpoint or outstyle him. Martinez was simply the better boxer. One of the two undefeated fighters will have to have 1 loss.

Ancajas will have lessons learned though. That's another experience for him on different kinds of boxers. The next time he faces another Martinez he knows how to handle him already.
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Ancajas long reign as a champion is now over, Martinez has now crowned the new champion via unanimous decision  Martinez show heart and power he overwhelms Ancajas with so many punches the number is very staggering, Ancajas cannot keep up with those many punches he landed good body punches but not enough to stop Martinez's barrage of punches I thought the referee will stop the fight because of those big punches by Martinez,  congratulations to Martinez.
That was a one sided match, Ancajas suddenly became flat-footed in that fight as you can see he was really exhausted. He himself knows he is gonna lose in that fight,it was an upset, and congratulations to those who see it coming.

Jerwin Ancajas didn't even give the judges a hard time to decide who will win lol.

The majority of the rounds are clearly taken by Martinez. In other words, he dominated the fight and Ancajas don't have any answer. His morale got low maybe he thinks he can't handle Martinez.

If only he stayed inspired, he might have come back in action.

Yes, seems that he loses morale from the early rounds and not to try to bounce back,

The decisions coming from the judges states that Martinez overpowers Jerwin sad to see but there's nothing fans can do about it.
the performances of two fighters dictate the fate of this fight.

Congrats to Martinez and to those who bet for him..
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The fight is underway I'm surprised at Martinez's performance he's hitting Ancajas with big shots Ancajas is very slow Martinez has been hitting him with big punches, Ancajas is now working on the body we'll have a good fight as both fighters love to engage and are not afraid to go toe to toe. let's see who will yield the body shots will take its toil later on one of the boxers.

Crossing our fingers, Jerwin seems to be flat footed in this fight so he needs to be a comeback in the next coming rounds. Martinez looks tired though, so it might be good for Jerwin to really become the aggressor. So hopefully he can turn around things and not be beaten by Martinez because this will be a huge upset in the division.

Stamina-wise, Martinez knows how to adjust when he already feels that he's now being tired. But on the other hand, Ancajas is also tired too making it easy for Martinez to adjust while waiting for the final ring. His strategy is to try to gather big points and when he feels tired, he will slow down focusing on his defense then when he got replenish a bit, will go again as an aggressive.

Ancajas didn't expect that to happen. Martinez did a good job on this fight.
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Ancajas long reign as a champion is now over, Martinez has now crowned the new champion via unanimous decision  Martinez show heart and power he overwhelms Ancajas with so many punches the number is very staggering, Ancajas cannot keep up with those many punches he landed good body punches but not enough to stop Martinez's barrage of punches I thought the referee will stop the fight because of those big punches by Martinez,  congratulations to Martinez.
That was a one sided match, Ancajas suddenly became flat-footed in that fight as you can see he was really exhausted. He himself knows he is gonna lose in that fight,it was an upset, and congratulations to those who see it coming.

Jerwin Ancajas didn't even give the judges a hard time to decide who will win lol.

The majority of the rounds are clearly taken by Martinez. In other words, he dominated the fight and Ancajas don't have any answer. His morale got low maybe he thinks he can't handle Martinez.

If only he stayed inspired, he might have come back in action.
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Ancajas long reign as a champion is now over, Martinez has now crowned the new champion via unanimous decision  Martinez show heart and power he overwhelms Ancajas with so many punches the number is very staggering, Ancajas cannot keep up with those many punches he landed good body punches but not enough to stop Martinez's barrage of punches I thought the referee will stop the fight because of those big punches by Martinez,  congratulations to Martinez.

It's ok to lose but the decision is unanimous. Our own Ancajas didn't even get a chance to win one of the judges.

Too much confidence that he can overthrow his opponent. He didn't expect that Martinez will go wild preventing him to some counters.

Hope that loss will serve him a lesson. Congrats to Martinez. He deserved being a Champion.
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All technical analysis after the fight is cleared, Martinez won the fight fair and square. To tell you honestly, that was Ancajas' usual performance. It's just that Martinez found a way to stop Ancajas from being on his usual phase and control the fight all throughout.

What's next for him?

Think why he loses from head to toe. Accept the loss slowly. Redeemed himself. Move on.
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Ancajas long reign as a champion is now over, Martinez has now crowned the new champion via unanimous decision  Martinez show heart and power he overwhelms Ancajas with so many punches the number is very staggering, Ancajas cannot keep up with those many punches he landed good body punches but not enough to stop Martinez's barrage of punches I thought the referee will stop the fight because of those big punches by Martinez,  congratulations to Martinez.
That was a one sided match, Ancajas suddenly became flat-footed in that fight as you can see he was really exhausted. He himself knows he is gonna lose in that fight,it was an upset, and congratulations to those who see it coming.

I agree, it was one sided beat down from the very first round, as other have observed, there is no movement from Anjacas and he chooses to go toe to toe, yes he can take the punch, but it was wrong strategy because Martinez does have that energy to continue with those volumes. And when we thought that he is getting tired and Ancajas started to hit him, Martinez goes volume punching again. Too bad that I have lost my bet but it is what it is.

I heard from the announcer that Martinez made history for throwing the most numbers of heavy punches to his opponent in this division. It was a well deserved win by Martinez, although I back Ancajas to win but I would be mad if the judges scored it the other way.
I'm going to admit it that was a very impressive demonstration by Martinez, I would have never imagined that he will be able to throw so many punches, his opponent had no chance to respond at all during the whole fight, so without doubt Martinez deserves the win, it is going to be interesting if Martinez makes clear how he was able to reach such an amazing performance because I don't think that we have ever seen him being so aggressive in a single fight.

Maybe his inspiration is just to get that belt from Ancajas, and snatch his long reigning period for that belt. Definitely, the UD is well deserved. I am rooting for Ancajas here but it is truly different when it comes to actual performance inside the ring. A lot I think betted on Ancajas because of his record. But in boxing, you can never tell the outcome until the fight is over.
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Ancajas long reign as a champion is now over, Martinez has now crowned the new champion via unanimous decision  Martinez show heart and power he overwhelms Ancajas with so many punches the number is very staggering, Ancajas cannot keep up with those many punches he landed good body punches but not enough to stop Martinez's barrage of punches I thought the referee will stop the fight because of those big punches by Martinez,  congratulations to Martinez.
That was a one sided match, Ancajas suddenly became flat-footed in that fight as you can see he was really exhausted. He himself knows he is gonna lose in that fight,it was an upset, and congratulations to those who see it coming.

I agree, it was one sided beat down from the very first round, as other have observed, there is no movement from Anjacas and he chooses to go toe to toe, yes he can take the punch, but it was wrong strategy because Martinez does have that energy to continue with those volumes. And when we thought that he is getting tired and Ancajas started to hit him, Martinez goes volume punching again. Too bad that I have lost my bet but it is what it is.

I heard from the announcer that Martinez made history for throwing the most numbers of heavy punches to his opponent in this division. It was a well deserved win by Martinez, although I back Ancajas to win but I would be mad if the judges scored it the other way.
I'm going to admit it that was a very impressive demonstration by Martinez, I would have never imagined that he will be able to throw so many punches, his opponent had no chance to respond at all during the whole fight, so without doubt Martinez deserves the win, it is going to be interesting if Martinez makes clear how he was able to reach such an amazing performance because I don't think that we have ever seen him being so aggressive in a single fight.
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Ancajas long reign as a champion is now over, Martinez has now crowned the new champion via unanimous decision  Martinez show heart and power he overwhelms Ancajas with so many punches the number is very staggering, Ancajas cannot keep up with those many punches he landed good body punches but not enough to stop Martinez's barrage of punches I thought the referee will stop the fight because of those big punches by Martinez,  congratulations to Martinez.
That was a one sided match, Ancajas suddenly became flat-footed in that fight as you can see he was really exhausted. He himself knows he is gonna lose in that fight,it was an upset, and congratulations to those who see it coming.
Well ,this is just a part of a game. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose but that's just normal.Maybe he was affected by the long absence of a fight.Thats why he became so slow. He lose his footwork and look so exhausted. But thats okay..Ancajas needs some work out so that he will be better in his next fight.

I do agree that upsets do really happen, but in this one, Ancajas some time to prepared the replacement fighter and yet it seems he was not really prepared for the fight. We've seen him knocking down his sparring partner, but in this fight, we didn't see his power and body shots and that's what very frustrating to see as a fan of him. And I'm not sure if there is a rematch clause, because he deserves to have a rematch.

i don't expect it also to be an upset. i have high regards on ancajas because of his record. so don't know if it was the preparation of ancajas that somehow affected his performance inside the ring. ancajas by the way wants a rematch here as per this article . so we will see if there will be a rematch for this fight. as ancajas already tasted the power of martinez, he knows now where he failed short inside the ring. so let's see...
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That was a one sided match, Ancajas suddenly became flat-footed in that fight as you can see he was really exhausted. He himself knows he is gonna lose in that fight,it was an upset, and congratulations to those who see it coming.
Well ,this is just a part of a game. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose but that's just normal.Maybe he was affected by the long absence of a fight.Thats why he became so slow. He lose his footwork and look so exhausted. But thats okay..Ancajas needs some work out so that he will be better in his next fight.
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Being a fan of Anjacas it's kind of sad news but that's what a game looks like, not all the time you will going to win fight, there's probably a losses and wins. Still, for me it's a good fight that Anjacas have shown inside the ring. He maybe losses his footwork at this fight but I do hope that in his next and future games he might learned a lesson out of this game. This man is a great fighter in the makin and with that being said he just needed to focus and needed some extra hard work on his trainings.
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Ancajas long reign as a champion is now over, Martinez has now crowned the new champion via unanimous decision  Martinez show heart and power he overwhelms Ancajas with so many punches the number is very staggering, Ancajas cannot keep up with those many punches he landed good body punches but not enough to stop Martinez's barrage of punches I thought the referee will stop the fight because of those big punches by Martinez,  congratulations to Martinez.
That was a one sided match, Ancajas suddenly became flat-footed in that fight as you can see he was really exhausted. He himself knows he is gonna lose in that fight,it was an upset, and congratulations to those who see it coming.
Well ,this is just a part of a game. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose but that's just normal.Maybe he was affected by the long absence of a fight.Thats why he became so slow. He lose his footwork and look so exhausted. But thats okay..Ancajas needs some work out so that he will be better in his next fight.

I do agree that upsets do really happen, but in this one, Ancajas some time to prepared the replacement fighter and yet it seems he was not really prepared for the fight. We've seen him knocking down his sparring partner, but in this fight, we didn't see his power and body shots and that's what very frustrating to see as a fan of him. And I'm not sure if there is a rematch clause, because he deserves to have a rematch.
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Ancajas long reign as a champion is now over, Martinez has now crowned the new champion via unanimous decision  Martinez show heart and power he overwhelms Ancajas with so many punches the number is very staggering, Ancajas cannot keep up with those many punches he landed good body punches but not enough to stop Martinez's barrage of punches I thought the referee will stop the fight because of those big punches by Martinez,  congratulations to Martinez.
That was a one sided match, Ancajas suddenly became flat-footed in that fight as you can see he was really exhausted. He himself knows he is gonna lose in that fight,it was an upset, and congratulations to those who see it coming.
Well ,this is just a part of a game. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose but that's just normal.Maybe he was affected by the long absence of a fight.Thats why he became so slow. He lose his footwork and look so exhausted. But thats okay..Ancajas needs some work out so that he will be better in his next fight.
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Is Martinez taking PEDs? It seemed like he does not feel tired in the fight, until the 12 rounds, he is still very active and he could really go toe to toe. I also see the mistake from Ancajas because he doesn't use a lot of movement, instead, he just trust his power to much and give a toe to toe fight, I mean he is the champion, he should not give the fight easily, use his head movement and foot work to score and win.

Let's just give it to Martinez, if he is taking something then it would be known because they have this post-fight testing and he will be stripped of the belt if found guilty.

In fairness to the new champion he deserved this because he was relentless and Ancajas' ring rust really showed in the fight. Imagine, he has not fought for 15 months and he might also has over-trained. Hope MP Promotions would realize this mistake and take good care of him because the way i see it, it seems that they are just throwing their boxers whoever is available, just my two cents.

Lose my bet but it's okay and i just hope Ancajas can bounce back from this defeat and learned from it.

At the start of the fight, I told myself that there is something different with Ancajas, maybe it's the ring rust or the bright light of fighting in Las Vegas.

And I still hoping that he can turn the fight over in the mid round, but there is no strategy and he goes straight up walking on Martinez hook. Anyhow, his long reign is over, just sad to see it end this way. Hopefully he can bounce back from this defeat and be a champion.
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