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Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.

His team should focus on Casimero to have another title crack and become champion again, the Akaho fight is quite disappointing although there was an overturn of the decision Casimero is a very talented boxer and he is the frontrunner of Filipino boxers, many are still following his career because he is very brave and he never back out from any fighter that includes Inoue.
This is going to be an easy fight for Casimero but however easy it may seem he should impress the boxing community, as they say, a boxer is only good in his last fight if he can win impressively like an early knockout, boxing organizations may line him up for title crack.
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Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.

Yes, just keep doing what is best for his career and wait for his turn. We never know, but since Inoue already went up meaning to say that the chance for Casimero to meet him inside the ring is now possible.

It's a matter of how good the promoter is and how social media will continue to hype Casimero's name
to earn and attract attentions for the fans.
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This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

He will definitely trained hard and maybe look for a knockout, he needs to win impressively and send a message to the rest of the super bantamweight fighters. This is an opportunity for him to show that he still got it, can knock out his opponents. And yes, usually if you have new manager you want to show them that they are correct in picking you up. And I believed that he is still chasing that big money fight against Inoue and so he pick a Japanese manager because it's going to be an advantage for him to negotiate as both are Japanese. So good move for him to get out of MP or whoever his last manager is.
Yeah, that's giving the message to those that are just waiting for him to fight. He's preparing for this and doesn't want an inch of a mistake to be done.
I just don't know if he's still chasing Inoue but that might be seen in the future as of now, he needs to focus on his upcoming fight and that's just 2 months from now. It can be lesser time but it's an advantage for him since the match will be done on his upper hand.

Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.
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Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per the below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so I think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he becomes a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not have much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

What do you guys think of this fight?



We cannot say that this is a good and easy win by Quadro alas casimero even though cashmere is the most favorite here in this fight while nghitumbwa is the underdog here. But for sure he will bring us more exciting fights because we can not underestimate his skills and fighting technique cause we all know once casimero are too confident then for sure nghitumbwa can dominate him even though there's no knockout but by unanimous decision.
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This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

He will definitely trained hard and maybe look for a knockout, he needs to win impressively and send a message to the rest of the super bantamweight fighters. This is an opportunity for him to show that he still got it, can knock out his opponents. And yes, usually if you have new manager you want to show them that they are correct in picking you up. And I believed that he is still chasing that big money fight against Inoue and so he pick a Japanese manager because it's going to be an advantage for him to negotiate as both are Japanese. So good move for him to get out of MP or whoever his last manager is.
Yeah, that's giving the message to those that are just waiting for him to fight. He's preparing for this and doesn't want an inch of a mistake to be done.
I just don't know if he's still chasing Inoue but that might be seen in the future as of now, he needs to focus on his upcoming fight and that's just 2 months from now. It can be lesser time but it's an advantage for him since the match will be done on his upper hand.
I think he is still chasing Inoue, maybe he doesn't have the belt to chase him right now because he is just a rank boxer in this division and se he has to slowly build his reputation again at 122 lbs. And when the time comes that he is prime again in this division, he might call Inoue again.

And so with this fight, just another stepping stone for him, first is Akaho, which doesn't look good in his resume because it's controversial.

But if he can win with a big knockout here so maybe he will be notice again and given the chance to fight for the belt by WBO.
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This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

He will definitely trained hard and maybe look for a knockout, he needs to win impressively and send a message to the rest of the super bantamweight fighters. This is an opportunity for him to show that he still got it, can knock out his opponents. And yes, usually if you have new manager you want to show them that they are correct in picking you up. And I believed that he is still chasing that big money fight against Inoue and so he pick a Japanese manager because it's going to be an advantage for him to negotiate as both are Japanese. So good move for him to get out of MP or whoever his last manager is.
Yeah, that's giving the message to those that are just waiting for him to fight. He's preparing for this and doesn't want an inch of a mistake to be done.
I just don't know if he's still chasing Inoue but that might be seen in the future as of now, he needs to focus on his upcoming fight and that's just 2 months from now. It can be lesser time but it's an advantage for him since the match will be done on his upper hand.
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John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
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Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.

I'm excited about this news! It's been a while since Casimero had a fight held in the Philippines. Fans would surely love to see him fight in his home country, especially since this isn't really a big fight. The Philippines would be a great venue for it. Casimero will definitely be more inspired fighting in front of his kababayans. Although this isn't a championship fight, who knows? Maybe the next championship fight will be held here in the Philippines.

It's been confirmed already that this fight is going to be held in the Philippines, Okada is the venue. Not sure though how much is the tickets, but for sure, Casimero fans love to see in happening in his home soil.

Nonito Donaire will have a good chance to become a world champion again, so that is already a plus for Philippines.

Although it will be better to have another one in the likes of Casimero but it might take a while before he can get his chance.
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John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
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Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.

I'm excited about this news! It's been a while since Casimero had a fight held in the Philippines. Fans would surely love to see him fight in his home country, especially since this isn't really a big fight. The Philippines would be a great venue for it. Casimero will definitely be more inspired fighting in front of his kababayans. Although this isn't a championship fight, who knows? Maybe the next championship fight will be held here in the Philippines.
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John Riel Casimero promoter Masayuki Ito looks like he loves doing the fights in the Philippines.
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Speaking with reporters this past weekend alongside the Filipino, Treasure Boxing Promotion chief and former boxer Masayuki Ito noted that all of their future plans regarding holding events in the Philippines are based on how much love Filipino fans will show to Casimero once he fights this May.
https://www.ibtimes.com/john-riel-casimeros-promoter-hopeful-more-philippines-based-events-moving-forward-3680954
This is good news for Filipino fans as we can literally watch him live if we want to. About the support that was being asked by his promoter, I don't doubt the Filipinos who do love the sport. I mean, our government should've been funding this industry more because we are really good at it instead of wasting money on sports that don't fit our heights.

Casimero will surely give out all his best attacks here and will try a knockout as fast as possible giving the fans something to cheer on again before the title fight of Nonito Donaire this Summer of 2023 against Alexandro Santiago. Maybe we will have another title holder before this year ends.
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The stats alone are not the right basis for predicting the winner of this fight. Honestly, it's my first time hearing the name Nghitumbwa

and why are you and most people hearing his name only now? I, for example, am an amateur in this Boxing world, but there are many fighters I know, because when I go to a Boxing news site there are news about hundreds of fighters and why are these fighters in the news? they are in the news because they are competing at the highest level, so all the attention is on them and for them to compete at the highest level and because they are extremely skilled fighters, they are not competing at the highest level because they were lucky, they are not counting on luck, they have talent, a lot of training and strategies, physical strength and they had to fight with the best fighters and thanks to that they are fighting at the highest level

By that I mean that data and statistics are extremely important things in analyzing a fight and in order to determine the likely winner of a fight. in this case, for example, we have a fighter who doesn't fight at the highest level, so how can we consider him strong? he can be strong in the place where he fights but the point is that where he fights is not in a place where there are high level fighters, therefore he is not at the level of high level fighters, so when he faces a high level fighter level and of course he will have many difficulties, the first difficulty he will suffer will be having to deal with many fans of the opponent and the press and many cameras, the second will be the rhythm of a high level professional fighter... in my opinion opinion the winner of this fight is clear
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This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.
We will see. Experience in my opinion is a big plus for every boxer especially when you already reached the top of the mountain where it gets most intense.
All Casimero should do is think of this like a championship fight and he will definitely have the upper hand.

I agree that experience is a big advantage to a boxer.  Since having an experience, he is able to adjust and go think while in the ring.  Most unexperienced boxer failed to adapt during the fight making them a bit stiff and confused when things does not go as expected. One example is the fight of Rey Boom Boom Bautista against Daniel Ponce De Leon.  Bautista being unexperienced to be in a dire situation made him confused when he got caught by De Leon.  An experienced boxer will stay down until he recovered a bit but instead, Boom Boom Bautista tried to stand ASAP and did not use the ring to move around to shrug off the dizziness, instead, he just went straight to confront the advantageous opponent.

Here is the video of the said fight: https://youtu.be/WBqXIm0KhP4?t=95

Fillipus Nghitumbwa got his first loss from his first pro fight so I guess he was just shocked at that moment, but he knocked out that boxer when they met again in the boxing ring.
I don't really know much about the guy, but looking at his records, most of his fights are in their country South Africa, unlike Casimero who had experience with different fighters in different places.

That may be the case and I think Nghitumbwa is somehow comfortable in fighting now, with his record, we cannot just underestimate the guy even though it is his first time fighting outside Africa.
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Yes, but we all know that Casimero loves training, you can see it in his blog. So for sure he wouldn't take this fighter very lightly because if he lose this fight, it will be over for his dream to become a world champion in 122 lbs.

And with a new manager which is a Japanese, he might want to impressed them with a huge win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero has the experience as well, he knows how hard it is to win in the enemy's soil, so he will prevent that from happening to him. If he wins, they the doors will open up for him to even fight Inoue because of his Japanese promoters.
This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

He will definitely trained hard and maybe look for a knockout, he needs to win impressively and send a message to the rest of the super bantamweight fighters. This is an opportunity for him to show that he still got it, can knock out his opponents. And yes, usually if you have new manager you want to show them that they are correct in picking you up. And I believed that he is still chasing that big money fight against Inoue and so he pick a Japanese manager because it's going to be an advantage for him to negotiate as both are Japanese. So good move for him to get out of MP or whoever his last manager is.
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Yes, but we all know that Casimero loves training, you can see it in his blog. So for sure he wouldn't take this fighter very lightly because if he lose this fight, it will be over for his dream to become a world champion in 122 lbs.

And with a new manager which is a Japanese, he might want to impressed them with a huge win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero has the experience as well, he knows how hard it is to win in the enemy's soil, so he will prevent that from happening to him. If he wins, they the doors will open up for him to even fight Inoue because of his Japanese promoters.
This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.
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However, I believe that if he can secure a victory in this fight, it could lead to significant opportunities for him in the future. While I do not underestimate his opponent, he is a relatively unknown boxer.

Most of us here are likely in favor of Casimero winning the fight and getting a chance to face Inoue. It doesn't seem to be generating much hype in the boxing community, but we'll see if Casimero's power can be effective against a KO puncher like Nghitumbwa.

Casimero has a wide advantage experience-wise so that will be the reason why he will be the huge favorite going into this fight plus he will be fighting in the Philippines so that alone is a huge hurdle for Nghitumbwa. Though on paper, the African fighter is a KO artist but those boxers he KOed were unknown while Casimero has fought names that were talked about in the boxing community like Rigo and Tete.

Has anyone seen the available betting odds for this fight yet?

Not yet available but definitely this will be listed a day or two before fight night.
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I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

I saw only one fight of Nghitumbwa he is a perfect fighter for Casimero, always moving forward but with a weak defense, I doubt if Nghitumbwa can last the fight Casimero will look for a knockout he better has a strong punch because if not Casimero will go forward to knock him out, this is what I like about Casimero, one he tasted his opponents punches and he can take it he'll look for the sweet spot to land his vicious punches.
Of course, upset is possible here, but Casimero is always a hungry fighter because his eyes are focused on Inoue, to meet him in the ring.

Even if Casimero has a better records than Nghitumbwa, he should still needs a good preparation, and as much as possible, he shouldn't be too confident because we'll never know what his opponent have prepared upon facing him. It's still better not to underestimate his opponent. However, I believe that Casimero will grab and embrace this opportunity to create a promising record again. He only needs to know his opponent's weaknesses so he'll know the right defense to defeat it.

Yes, but we all know that Casimero loves training, you can see it in his blog. So for sure he wouldn't take this fighter very lightly because if he lose this fight, it will be over for his dream to become a world champion in 122 lbs.

And with a new manager which is a Japanese, he might want to impressed them with a huge win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero has the experience as well, he knows how hard it is to win in the enemy's soil, so he will prevent that from happening to him. If he wins, they the doors will open up for him to even fight Inoue because of his Japanese promoters.
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I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

I saw only one fight of Nghitumbwa he is a perfect fighter for Casimero, always moving forward but with a weak defense, I doubt if Nghitumbwa can last the fight Casimero will look for a knockout he better has a strong punch because if not Casimero will go forward to knock him out, this is what I like about Casimero, one he tasted his opponents punches and he can take it he'll look for the sweet spot to land his vicious punches.
Of course, upset is possible here, but Casimero is always a hungry fighter because his eyes are focused on Inoue, to meet him in the ring.

Even if Casimero has a better records than Nghitumbwa, he should still needs a good preparation, and as much as possible, he shouldn't be too confident because we'll never know what his opponent have prepared upon facing him. It's still better not to underestimate his opponent. However, I believe that Casimero will grab and embrace this opportunity to create a promising record again. He only needs to know his opponent's weaknesses so he'll know the right defense to defeat it.
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I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

I saw only one fight of Nghitumbwa he is a perfect fighter for Casimero, always moving forward but with a weak defense, I doubt if Nghitumbwa can last the fight Casimero will look for a knockout he better has a strong punch because if not Casimero will go forward to knock him out, this is what I like about Casimero, one he tasted his opponents punches and he can take it he'll look for the sweet spot to land his vicious punches.
Of course, upset is possible here, but Casimero is always a hungry fighter because his eyes are focused on Inoue, to meet him in the ring.
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However, I believe that if he can secure a victory in this fight, it could lead to significant opportunities for him in the future. While I do not underestimate his opponent, he is a relatively unknown boxer.

Most of us here are likely in favor of Casimero winning the fight and getting a chance to face Inoue. It doesn't seem to be generating much hype in the boxing community, but we'll see if Casimero's power can be effective against a KO puncher like Nghitumbwa.

Has anyone seen the available betting odds for this fight yet?
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This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.
We will see. Experience in my opinion is a big plus for every boxer especially when you already reached the top of the mountain where it gets most intense.
All Casimero should do is think of this like a championship fight and he will definitely have the upper hand.

Fillipus Nghitumbwa got his first loss from his first pro fight so I guess he was just shocked at that moment, but he knocked out that boxer when they met again in the boxing ring.
I don't really know much about the guy, but looking at his records, most of his fights are in their country South Africa, unlike Casimero who had experience with different fighters in different places.
This situation shouldn't be a significant threat to Casimero as he would not have to start from scratch if he hadn't lost his belt. He is now attempting to reclaim the championship title in a different division and will need to work his way up from the bottom again.

However, I believe that if he can secure a victory in this fight, it could lead to significant opportunities for him in the future. While I do not underestimate his opponent, he is a relatively unknown boxer.
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This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.
We will see. Experience in my opinion is a big plus for every boxer especially when you already reached the top of the mountain where it gets most intense.
All Casimero should do is think of this like a championship fight and he will definitely have the upper hand.

Fillipus Nghitumbwa got his first loss from his first pro fight so I guess he was just shocked at that moment, but he knocked out that boxer when they met again in the boxing ring.
I don't really know much about the guy, but looking at his records, most of his fights are in their country South Africa, unlike Casimero who had experience with different fighters in different places.
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