[Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13) - page 10.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 10, 2023, 08:31:14 AM

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

We really don't know what will happen mate, maybe it will be the opposite way? Casimero will win instead of Nghitumbwa, there are endless possibilities though the matches of Casimero's opponent is. not yet known to the public but we can erase the fact that he is also a good boxer with years of experienced. This will be very interesting fight, one will get his name in the lime light again or one will get the spotlight.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 09, 2023, 07:13:11 AM

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

If that lucky punch is strong, then it's possible to KO an opponent. If that lucky punch successfully land on the opponent but unfortunately, the opponent able to withstand that lucky punch because of lack of power, then that was all useless.

Casimero is built with a strong chin and overall, with a great sturdiness that is capable of withstanding any big blows against any boxer at the bantamweight and super bantamweight division that's why Nghitumbwa doesn't just need to find that lucky shot but also needed a big power if he's attempting to put Casimero on the canvass.

However, technically, hard to imagine for me that Casimero will kiss the canvass against Nghitumbwa.

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

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Quote from: Viscore on April 10, 2023, 03:09:48 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on April 07, 2023, 07:57:18 AM

Quote from: Jating on April 07, 2023, 06:06:22 AM

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.

We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).

I would agree to this. This fight maybe an easy win for Casimero since it’s obvious that he got all the advantage compared to his opponent. But honestly, matches like this will not improve and level up his boxing career. He should be pair with another impressive fighter so that there is more challenge and that the audience too will be more entertained watching them. I just hope after this fight, Casimero will face a challenger that is also equal with his potentials as that will determine who is really the undisputed one.

Might be a stepping stair for him to bring his name on top, with a good expectation from him to win the fight. Maybe knocking his opponent down will surely help to hype his name. He can't do nothing or demand to anything as he doesn't have anything to offer. His name is new to this division and, aside from getting the attention of good promoters, he also needs to work his way to be noticed by the organization.

We all know that this sport is also a business and if it's good for the business, it's always possible to do something to bring profits.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 07, 2023, 07:57:18 AM

Quote from: Jating on April 07, 2023, 06:06:22 AM

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.

We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).

I would agree to this. This fight maybe an easy win for Casimero since it’s obvious that he got all the advantage compared to his opponent. But honestly, matches like this will not improve and level up his boxing career. He should be pair with another impressive fighter so that there is more challenge and that the audience too will be more entertained watching them. I just hope after this fight, Casimero will face a challenger that is also equal with his potentials as that will determine who is really the undisputed one.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 09, 2023, 07:13:11 AM

Following you, before throwing trash talks, a fighter already envisioning the possibilities and how he will want the fight to end,
he's aiming to work with his words and will try to accomplish what he said.

A trashtalk by Casimero seems also his way to make himself hype at the fight.

For all the trashtalk that Casimero needs, in fairness, he is able to show that he is not just by words but can send a big statement once he fights.

Casimero just needs to throw his trash talk in not considered below the belt to make things not worst.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 09, 2023, 07:13:11 AM

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

If that lucky punch is strong, then it's possible to KO an opponent. If that lucky punch successfully land on the opponent but unfortunately, the opponent able to withstand that lucky punch because of lack of power, then that was all useless.

Casimero is built with a strong chin and overall, with a great sturdiness that is capable of withstanding any big blows against any boxer at the bantamweight and super bantamweight division that's why Nghitumbwa doesn't just need to find that lucky shot but also needed a big power if he's attempting to put Casimero on the canvass.

However, technically, hard to imagine for me that Casimero will kiss the canvass against Nghitumbwa.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 08, 2023, 04:52:32 PM

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

That make sense and discerning that he won't talk with bad mouth if he's not prepared for his opponent and match.

Before he releases some bad words to gain attention of both his and opponent's fans, he's got a vision on his mind of the result of what he might say.

This fight looks easy for us fans to say that he's got this but I'll still make boundaries that there could be some lucky punch that can be thrown and the possibility of it.

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

More on how aggressive but yet patient you are to connect that lucky punch to win the fight.

Following you, before throwing trash talks, a fighter already envisioning the possibilities and how he will want the fight to end,
he's aiming to work with his words and will try to accomplish what he said.

He wouldn't be that confident to talk trash to his opponent if he has got no big tool to show. But then, he is serious with it and that is why he can just anything he wants to say.

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 09, 2023, 07:54:34 AM

Just sharing a snap shot from the vlog of Casimero showing Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash having a serious conversation

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There are rumors that Donaire would help in the training of Casimero here in Cebu but with his coming fight with Alejandro, i don't think that it would materialize due to time constraints.

Nevertheless, it is a welcome sight for both of them training in the same gym.

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This is good to know that they are training in the same gym. Both will give each of their own opinions to their respective fights or experiences or situations.

Or just the typical casual talks that isn't really new to both of them.

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Just sharing a snap shot from the vlog of Casimero showing Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash having a serious conversation

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There are rumors that Donaire would help in the training of Casimero here in Cebu but with his coming fight with Alejandro, i don't think that it would materialize due to time constraints.

Nevertheless, it is a welcome sight for both of them training in the same gym.

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Quote from: sunsilk on April 08, 2023, 05:08:34 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on April 08, 2023, 04:52:32 PM

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

That make sense and discerning that he won't talk with bad mouth if he's not prepared for his opponent and match.

Before he releases some bad words to gain attention of both his and opponent's fans, he's got a vision on his mind of the result of what he might say.

This fight looks easy for us fans to say that he's got this but I'll still make boundaries that there could be some lucky punch that can be thrown and the possibility of it.

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

More on how aggressive but yet patient you are to connect that lucky punch to win the fight.

Following you, before throwing trash talks, a fighter already envisioning the possibilities and how he will want the fight to end,
he's aiming to work with his words and will try to accomplish what he said.

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Quote from: stadus on April 08, 2023, 04:20:42 PM

No need for him to rush things out because he might get surprised by the opponents waiting for him at the top if he won't get himself accustomed first. The likes of Inoue, Fulton and Murodjon won't get themselves attached to someone like Casimero because doesn't have any reputation yet built at 122 that's why he should make a statement on this fight so that he can aim on the interim belt holders.

Yeah Casimero is nothing at super bantamweight division, he need to fight at least 2-3 and it should be at top 10 boxers in super bantamweight division, so he can take a challenge with top 3 or 4 for interim belt.

We still don't know what's the next path Casimero will do if he win this fight, some boxers sometime tend to move to the next weight or lower his weight without any clear reason. If he think super bantamweight is too much for him, he may back to bantamweight again.

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Quote from: Silberman on April 08, 2023, 09:27:05 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 08, 2023, 04:40:24 PM

I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.

If Casimero wants to fight Inoue he needs a belt, otherwise I do not see Inoue holding any interest on fighting him, and this is because boxing is a business, as we know Inoue was supposed to fight Casimero but due to the problems Casimero had with his weight he was unable to do it, do not you think Inoue was mad about it? As not only he wasted a great deal of time studying Casimero, but he probably got even less money than what he had in mind since he was forced to fight Butler instead.

That's something relevant to what happened, I agree that each fighters are also investing time with how they will going to create a good strategy to beat their opponents.

And Yes, it almost happened if only Casimero manage to stay in his weight and secure a win with Butler,
that next fight should be against Inoue, a good money fight that might bring huge numbers of sales and sponsorship
if both are still have belts to risk during the fight.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 08, 2023, 04:40:24 PM

I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.

If Casimero wants to fight Inoue he needs a belt, otherwise I do not see Inoue holding any interest on fighting him, and this is because boxing is a business, as we know Inoue was supposed to fight Casimero but due to the problems Casimero had with his weight he was unable to do it, do not you think Inoue was mad about it? As not only he wasted a great deal of time studying Casimero, but he probably got even less money than what he had in mind since he was forced to fight Butler instead.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 08, 2023, 04:52:32 PM

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

That make sense and discerning that he won't talk with bad mouth if he's not prepared for his opponent and match.

Before he releases some bad words to gain attention of both his and opponent's fans, he's got a vision on his mind of the result of what he might say.

This fight looks easy for us fans to say that he's got this but I'll still make boundaries that there could be some lucky punch that can be thrown and the possibility of it.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 08, 2023, 04:40:24 PM

I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

Casimero used to be a not trash talker but he find out that his career is getting dulled and boring until he discovered that showboating and trashtalking caters the interest and attention of fans. So he decided to be a trash talker just for the sake of getting the interests and curiosity of the viewers and it did make him sensational in some point of his career until he got a problem in meeting his weight limit and got stripped of the title.

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 08, 2023, 04:40:24 PM

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.

I agree, Casimero has a good heart, his trashtalking and showboating is just for an act to give fans entertainment and at the same time boost his incoming fights.

Quote from: Kemarit on April 08, 2023, 04:52:32 PM

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

No matter who his opponent is, what important is that he can give his best performance for the fight. He needs it especially when he is starting from a scratch in this division.

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^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

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And speaking about this fight, Casimero for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.

No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.

Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

I guess that's why he loves to trash talk, definitely he can back it up, but he wanted to play mind games as well. So that's how good Casimero in my opinion, just like what he did when he called Inoue and almost made the fight.

And I think up to this day, he is still looking for that big fight against Inoue.

But it had to wait for the meantime, he has a fighter in front of him and he needs to win this thru knockout and as what the majority says, because that will be a statement and sending his message to all rank fighters here that he will be a threat for the belt.

I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.

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Quote from: molsewid on April 07, 2023, 09:44:22 AM

Quote from: Fatunad on April 07, 2023, 08:28:15 AM

As a boxer then you should really be having this kind of mindset on which winning up on every match which is been thrown to you because no matter how you would be longing for a certain fighter but your performance or record doesnt really match up then its impossible that you would really be able to make that fight happen. Of course promoters or the organization would definitely going in line on the rules and match set ups
according on what division you are in and if its really that mandatory or something that been suggested or been inlined. This is why it is really better to focus
on whatever matches that would be arranged up along the way.

I agree to you mate, for it doesn't really matter if he will go against not so well-known boxer if he really wants to improve his record and also widen his experience, as what we can see Casimero's opponent has a lot of potential he has a good number of KO and doesn't have any loses. Maybe he is not yet known very well in this place but soon enough after this match whether he will win or he will lose he will get the attention of other promoters .

No need for him to rush things out because he might get surprised by the opponents waiting for him at the top if he won't get himself accustomed first. The likes of Inoue, Fulton and Murodjon won't get themselves attached to someone like Casimero because doesn't have any reputation yet built at 122 that's why he should make a statement on this fight so that he can aim on the interim belt holders.

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Quote from: Finestream on April 07, 2023, 01:45:26 PM

Quote from: PX-Z on April 02, 2023, 06:16:44 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on April 02, 2023, 05:24:57 PM

And speaking about this fight, Casimero for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.

No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.

Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

I guess that's why he loves to trash talk, definitely he can back it up, but he wanted to play mind games as well. So that's how good Casimero in my opinion, just like what he did when he called Inoue and almost made the fight.

And I think up to this day, he is still looking for that big fight against Inoue.

But it had to wait for the meantime, he has a fighter in front of him and he needs to win this thru knockout and as what the majority says, because that will be a statement and sending his message to all rank fighters here that he will be a threat for the belt.

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Quote from: Finestream on April 07, 2023, 01:45:26 PM

Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

I have to agree that even Casimero is a trash-talker, he can backed it on the actual fight. Unlike other boxers that just pure of talks.

I don't see though that this fight will be an easy win to Casimero but at least he should win by 90%.

Casimero faces already a much ranked boxer compare to his upcoming opponent. He should not have a big problem here.

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Quote from: PX-Z on April 02, 2023, 06:16:44 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on April 02, 2023, 05:24:57 PM

And speaking about this fight, Casimero for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.

No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.

Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

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