Topic: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 27. (Read 8566 times)
Oscar dela Hoya of Golden Boy says or at least inserted into the picture his 147 lbs fighter in the discussion and that is Vergil Ortiz Jr, who won the WBA eliminator. That if this fight is not going to be made, then Ortiz is willing to step up as he is the mandatory for the WBA by Spence. So we shall see, it's going to be a huge setback for us boxing fans if the deal is off for now. As we will have to wait, and chances are it can't happen as either have plans as well.
Any wild forecast and news about the status of this fight?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
Yes, seems that there is no progress in their must awaited fight and we aren't that sure yet that this fight will really materialize this year. If we search for updates or progress about the Spence-Crawford fight on the internet, we can see that there are new articles that have surfaced but the bottom line is that the fight is still in the works.
Crawford must do something if he's eager to have a fight this year before he gets inactive for a year now. About that, he said that he's looking forward to fighting Jermell Charlo if this undisputed bout won't go through this year.
Yes, seems that there is no really fresh news around about the progress of the fight. I also did my own research of mine but like anyone else, I don't see such big news or even a hint from anywhere that the fight is really closed to happening. Regarding your last statement, I also read elsewhere before that the name Jermell Charlo is being linked to Terence Crawford but since there's no news or even speculation that Crawford will take Charlo instead, therefore the negotiation with Spence's Camp is still underdoing.
The speculation of this fight is set to date on September or October, right? We can now disregard the chances of the fight happening next month. October still has a chance if the negotiations will be successfully take place this month. The worst is, no news until the end of the year lol.
Any wild forecast and news about the status of this fight?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
Yes, seems that there is no progress in their must awaited fight and we aren't that sure yet that this fight will really materialize this year. If we search for updates or progress about the Spence-Crawford fight on the internet, we can see that there are new articles that have surfaced but the bottom line is that the fight is still in the works.
Crawford must do something if he's eager to have a fight this year before he gets inactive for a year now. About that, he said that he's looking forward to fighting Jermell Charlo if this undisputed bout won't go through this year.
The purse agreement? I think we are all in unison that Spence Jr, will be the A-side of this fight. He seems to be drawing more fight fans in their seat when he fight, so there is no question about it.
Actually, both boxers have the capability to attract more viewers and PPV subscribers. It's just that Errol Spence Jr. does have better and impressive PPV stats compare to Terence Crawford's overall that's why it makes sense to believe that Spence should have a bigger cut.
But even if there's no such thing as Spence being called the PPV King, these both boxers can easily be sold out tickets and PPV subscriptions in just a short period of time. The reason is that it's a mega bout that every boxing fan is waiting for.
This fight is being shaped for years now and it's just this year it become close to happening although as of now, information about the progress is really limited. We have no other options but to remain hanging for any updates regarding the fight.
That's what Crawford should agree, this is a big fight but he is not in the position to demand a split purse, getting 40% is big enough though because if he wins, sure this is not going to be his last fight and he will be having big fights in the future which could potentially bring him more money.
As far as referring to recent news, rumors, or just an analysis by anyone regarding the progress of this fight, I think the discussion about the purse split is not really the big hindrance to why the fight is not officially deal. We don't know what's happening behind the curtain but a purse split is something that doesn't really need a deep discussion from both parties. I'm sure Crawford doesn't have any problem if he will get the 40% of the split.
Not unless there will be news or rumor that Spence wants more than 60%, that's really a problem although I doubt that issue will happen for real.
For now, let's disregard that speculation about the purse split until there's official news about that.
The purse agreement? I think we are all in unison that Spence Jr, will be the A-side of this fight. He seems to be drawing more fight fans in their seat when he fight, so there is no question about it.
That's what Crawford should agree, this is a big fight but he is not in the position to demand a split purse, getting 40% is big enough though because if he wins, sure this is not going to be his last fight and he will be having big fights in the future which could potentially bring him more money.
Any wild forecast and news about the status of this fight?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
Nothing concrete yet for this fight, so I guess, what we can do is just wait and see.
And about Arum's thoughts on this -
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/07/bob-arum-doubts-terence-crawford-vs-errol-spence-fight-happens/
What I can see here, is the money that they will get here is a big factor to determine when will happen this fight.
Also, what kind of purse agreements between the two. But definitely, Spence Jr will get a bigger share of the pie.
Now, it depends on their respective promoters how they will go with this boxing match.
Yes, as of now, everything falls of pure speculation, we have our own believes as who is stalling the fight and what might have the reason behind it, (whether it is absurd, they could been some truth behind it).
The purse agreement? I think we are all in unison that Spence Jr, will be the A-side of this fight. He seems to be drawing more fight fans in their seat when he fight, so there is no question about it.
Any wild forecast and news about the status of this fight?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
Nothing concrete yet for this fight, so I guess, what we can do is just wait and see.
And about Arum's thoughts on this -
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/07/bob-arum-doubts-terence-crawford-vs-errol-spence-fight-happens/
What I can see here, is the money that they will get here is a big factor to determine when will happen this fight.
Also, what kind of purse agreements between the two. But definitely, Spence Jr will get a bigger share of the pie.
Now, it depends on their respective promoters how they will go with this boxing match.
Any wild forecast and news about the status of this fight?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.
Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?
Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.
Regardless of their experience, there will be a different approach obviously between Crawford and Spence once they faced each other in the ring. Garcia and Porter's experience can't be applied now to the analysis as both Crawford and Spence will surely have different strategies against each other compared to when they faced Garcia and Porter.
Well, the reporters just ask about their sentiment and speculations that's why they provide their respective statements towards Crawford and Spence.
Their speculations obviously came from their own experienced and not being biased.
Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.
Yep, obviously. I'm also in favour of what Porter said.
Based on his fight for both Crawford and Spence, I can say Crawford have a better and effective plan against Porter's aggressiveness. We all knew Porter's style of play, Crawford executed very well to deliver that knock out.
While on the other hand, with his fight against Spence, i can say that was really a close one. Without that round 11 quick knock down, Porter could've won it.
Though there are differences when the actual fight between the two, we never know what adjustments and what preparations
both fighters will do before the fight takes place.
Spence might use his strength to push forward and create a good opening to throw solid punches while, with Crawford's side, he's
known for being patience and understanding how to work with adjustments that he needs with his opponent.
Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.
Yep, obviously. I'm also in favour of what Porter said.
Based on his fight for both Crawford and Spence, I can say Crawford have a better and effective plan against Porter's aggressiveness. We all knew Porter's style of play, Crawford executed very well to deliver that knock out.
The most important part is the KO by Crawford since no boxer has ever KO Porter.
While on the other hand, with his fight against Spence, i can say that was really a close one. Without that round 11 quick knock down, Porter could've won it.
They are just trading punches, it's just that Spence was the stronger fighter so he won the fight, maybe Judges also favored him a bit as he is more popular than Porter. Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.
Yep, obviously. I'm also in favour of what Porter said.
Based on his fight for both Crawford and Spence, I can say Crawford have a better and effective plan against Porter's aggressiveness. We all knew Porter's style of play, Crawford executed very well to deliver that knock out.
While on the other hand, with his fight against Spence, i can say that was really a close one. Without that round 11 quick knock down, Porter could've won it.
Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.
Yep he should know more about both Spence and Crawford rather than anyone else since he have fought them and never afraid with losses. The thing is he have a reach disadvantages, he and Spence only have difference for 6 cm while he and Crawford have difference for 11 cm. That's why on his fight against Crawford, he fall down because he move to far to hit Crawford and since his position is open, Crawford punch him. 
Danny Garcia lost to Spence by decision so that's probably the reason why he is crediting Spence a lot. It's like, he is still a force to reckon with because he lost to the best guy in the division. Though I seldom read nor hear any interviews from Danny Garcia and his twat dad, I did follow his career even before he became a world champion. He and especially his dad always feel they are the center of the boxing world.
The better way to listen to or read an analysis IMO is from Kell Brook and Shawn Porter as both fought Spence and Crawford. Timothy Bradley haven't faced Crawford and Spence but I do like his non biased analysis too. I'll bet all these 3 fighters will probably say Crawford is way way better than Spence if asked between the two.
The better way to listen to or read an analysis IMO is from Kell Brook and Shawn Porter as both fought Spence and Crawford. Timothy Bradley haven't faced Crawford and Spence but I do like his non biased analysis too. I'll bet all these 3 fighters will probably say Crawford is way way better than Spence if asked between the two.
These boxers refer to their own experience that's why their judgment is biased toward a specific boxer. It does make sense that they will have a view like that since they feel the strength of that boxer for real. About Danny Garcia's analysis that Spence is too strong for Crawford since he has experience fighting Spence, that's where his statement came from disregarding the other advantages that Crawford has.
I agree with you that a good analysis should come from a boxer that has experience fighting those who will be faced off. They can exactly determine the difference between those 2 boxers and their analysis is closed to being perfect and accurate.
Although in the end, no one knows what will be the final result.
Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.
Danny Garcia lost to Spence by decision so that's probably the reason why he is crediting Spence a lot. It's like, he is still a force to reckon with because he lost to the best guy in the division. Though I seldom read nor hear any interviews from Danny Garcia and his twat dad, I did follow his career even before he became a world champion. He and especially his dad always feel they are the center of the boxing world.
The better way to listen to or read an analysis IMO is from Kell Brook and Shawn Porter as both fought Spence and Crawford. Timothy Bradley haven't faced Crawford and Spence but I do like his non biased analysis too. I'll bet all these 3 fighters will probably say Crawford is way way better than Spence if asked between the two.
The better way to listen to or read an analysis IMO is from Kell Brook and Shawn Porter as both fought Spence and Crawford. Timothy Bradley haven't faced Crawford and Spence but I do like his non biased analysis too. I'll bet all these 3 fighters will probably say Crawford is way way better than Spence if asked between the two.
These boxers refer to their own experience that's why their judgment is biased toward a specific boxer. It does make sense that they will have a view like that since they feel the strength of that boxer for real. About Danny Garcia's analysis that Spence is too strong for Crawford since he has experience fighting Spence, that's where his statement came from disregarding the other advantages that Crawford has.
I agree with you that a good analysis should come from a boxer that has experience fighting those who will be faced off. They can exactly determine the difference between those 2 boxers and their analysis is closed to being perfect and accurate.
Although in the end, no one knows what will be the final result.
Let's skip for now the discussion about the issue of being "delayed" on any information or updates regarding this fight.
What's your input and feedback guys about Danny Garcia's recent statement that Errol Spence Jr. is too strong for Terence Crawford. When we say "too strong" it means he views the fight as a landslide victory in favor of Spence. I respect his view and even though I'm looking forward to Spence winning at this mega-bout, saying Spence is too much for Crawford is like underestimating the latter.
Errol Spence "too strong" for Terence Crawford says Danny Garcia
Well, I don't know, but perhaps García handles a type of information that is very different from what we normally see or handle, but he is referring to having bias because perhaps he has information on how the type of training of both boxers has been, and obviously he leans towards the one with the best preparation and the toughest type of training, but sometimes this type of statement puts the other boxer on notice, and that can change the course of things, because it is sending him a message that It's missing a bit and Garcia may be right for now, but that can all change, and now more than ever.
The better way to listen to or read an analysis IMO is from Kell Brook and Shawn Porter as both fought Spence and Crawford. Timothy Bradley haven't faced Crawford and Spence but I do like his non biased analysis too. I'll bet all these 3 fighters will probably say Crawford is way way better than Spence if asked between the two.
Let's skip for now the discussion about the issue of being "delayed" on any information or updates regarding this fight.
What's your input and feedback guys about Danny Garcia's recent statement that Errol Spence Jr. is too strong for Terence Crawford. When we say "too strong" it means he views the fight as a landslide victory in favor of Spence. I respect his view and even though I'm looking forward to Spence winning at this mega-bout, saying Spence is too much for Crawford is like underestimating the latter.
Errol Spence "too strong" for Terence Crawford says Danny Garcia
Well, I don't know, but perhaps García handles a type of information that is very different from what we normally see or handle, but he is referring to having bias because perhaps he has information on how the type of training of both boxers has been, and obviously he leans towards the one with the best preparation and the toughest type of training, but sometimes this type of statement puts the other boxer on notice, and that can change the course of things, because it is sending him a message that It's missing a bit and Garcia may be right for now, but that can all change, and now more than ever.
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Yeah if Crawford vs Spence fight did not happen then the Plan B can take it which a fighter who have 35 wins (19kO) charlo can fight and this fight also a good fight against Crawford we all know that charlo is very tough opponent and it's a good fighter to challenge the skill of Crawford. But as I said yesterday all we can do is to stay tuned and wait for more updates if Crawford vs spence still happen or not.
I think there's no PLAN B as they are focused on materializing this fight rather than considering the other options. For now, we really need to extend our patience until the very last days of this year before giving up on our expectations that this fight will not happen. As much as doing research, we can't really see anywhere, on any source, about a good status happening on the plan.
But come to think of it, since there is also no bad news or any hints that this fight will be a failed negotiation, we should hope that this fight will really happen.
Well, despite the fact that there is no Plan B or something similar, I am completely sure that things can work out in our favor and they do, I don't know, many things may happen but it is very likely that they will take the demands into account, a negotiation regarding this could be unsuccessful, everyone wants and knows that this fight must take place.
From the point of view of the boxers if they need it, in part I know they want it, but they have to work on it. Many speculate that Crawford will sweep Spence, but this is something I would not trust, both fighters know they need to win, losing is not an option for either of them.
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Yeah if Crawford vs Spence fight did not happen then the Plan B can take it which a fighter who have 35 wins (19kO) charlo can fight and this fight also a good fight against Crawford we all know that charlo is very tough opponent and it's a good fighter to challenge the skill of Crawford. But as I said yesterday all we can do is to stay tuned and wait for more updates if Crawford vs spence still happen or not.
I think there's no PLAN B as they are focused on materializing this fight rather than considering the other options. For now, we really need to extend our patience until the very last days of this year before giving up on our expectations that this fight will not happen. As much as doing research, we can't really see anywhere, on any source, about a good status happening on the plan.
But come to think of it, since there is also no bad news or any hints that this fight will be a failed negotiation, we should hope that this fight will really happen.
Even some sports-related websites are concerned if we will see Crawford and Spence bout this year, 2022.
Will we actually see Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Jr in 2022?
Boxing history is littered with fights that happened too late, but this one is now or never
They have much more legit sources and known insiders compared to all of us here obviously. If they are not also sure since they don't receive any updates then maybe there are really no actions currently taking place now and both sides are just on waiting game status.
This is alarming if we don't hear something good this month up to next month. But again, patience.
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