Topic: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 28. (Read 8555 times)

Still, lots of time to wait if ever the fight is expected to happen this 4Q of the year.

As the early speculation stated, the fight is supposed to be in September right? Therefore since it's now August and no update yet, we can throw that expectation and begin expecting it moving on to October. If there's no update until September, then again, we can throw the speculation that October is not the month.

The worst is that by October and there's still no update, we should not expect this fight to happen this year but move forward now to next year. It's a waste of year if no fight happened between these 2 this year. They should fight other boxers now if, in October, the deal is not yet clear.

Yeah if Crawford vs Spence fight did not happen then the Plan B can take it which a fighter who have 35 wins (19kO) charlo can fight and this fight also a good fight against Crawford we all know that charlo is very tough opponent and it's a good fighter to challenge the skill of Crawford. But as I said yesterday all we can do is to stay tuned and wait for more updates if Crawford vs spence still happen or not.

This is one of the times in the history of boxing that fighters want to fight each other but have a hard time closing the deal, there are too many politics and promoters want the best deal for their promotions, gone are the days when great fighters fight each other for legacy, this deprives the boxing community, they should take the opportunity in three years time they may not be as strong as they are right now.
There are new faces coming into the welterweight division and soon these new faces will just ram these two fighters.

They let us make our own speculation so this fight will get more attention. Until now, we still have no idea if the fight would really push through this year but all of us are optimistic that it will happen. A positive update on the fight will add more on the exciting of waiting the fight, so hopefully that will come soon.

For sure both camps are aware about it, fans are trying to hype to push the fight to happen,

but likewise, there is no obligation from both camps to keep providing updates. They are just doing their job in terms
of looking for good terms for both ends, to sign the contract.

What we can do for now is to wait for further update, if there's something interesting for sure the social media world
will be polluted by news about this possible upcoming fights.

At least he has a plan B which I'm sure everyone will agree a good fight. With Crawford's plan, it only tells that he is not afraid of fighting anyone as Jermell Charlo is also a great fighter. 35 wins (19 KO), boy, that is something, he should be a good challenge for Crawford.

Let's wait further notice or announcement from the facilitator of both sides. This year is the expecting year of fight so let's wait for more announcement but if this fight will not be happen for sure their Plan B is good as we all know that jermell Charlo is not just easy opponent so this is a good match up as well. But the main purpose here is spence vs Crawford and  it's better if this fight will happen.

Yes and since there's no choice but to wait, we have to wait. They don't have to adjust for us and there's no such thing that they need to throw official information regularly for the satisfaction of the fans. Although we are now approaching the 4Q of this year, we should still say optimistically that there is good progress happening without us knowing it.

I'm sure this fight will commence this year. No excuses or no standing on their way to make it happened.

Sounds like an easy thing to do hehe.

Spence is not afraid. Come on, give it more time until there's an announcement that the fight now officially won't happen. Why not just chillax and chill while waiting for some updates? For sure, if the negotiations will be a failed one, there is PLAN B for both boxers.

And don't underestimate Jermell Charlo as he's far more dangerous to me compared with Errol Spence.

Saying easily that if Crawford will beat Charlo is something you shouldn't easily say.

Right? Why should he stay and be inactive for almost or over a year from a fight that is not yet clear to happen, this might be a big fight because the winner in this fight will be the undisputed boxer in the welterweight division but he cannot force himself if Spence is really playing another game. He should go against Charlo and I reckon that will be a better decision rather than waiting for Spence.

You got a point but let's be optimistic for now that this undisputed fight will happen this year somewhere before the month of December because it's clear that they are engaged into talks but unfortunately, it's quite longer than we expected because Spence really said that he's coming to get Crawford's belt. We waited enough for this that is why I really hope that this will happen sooner.

Better to move forward if there's nothing to negotiate, if even he tries to call for this fight and is willing to adjust and still

nothing from Spence camp, he can go and find an alternative to keep his fighting composure intact. It's a best decision from him and his
camp to look for another fighter to challenge. It will be an additional recognition in case he is able to beat Charlo, bringing him another
belt to defend and add additional hype to his name and to his fighting value.

That's a great idea, why would he wait for Spence if the champion is afraid of him, fighting Jermell Charlo and beating him will give Crawford another recognition and it will surely make him ahead of Spence in terms of ranking if he is not yet ahead now.

The fight won't materialize if this keeps on happening because it's quite clear that Spence is still trying to avoid the fight or make the fight longer after he said that he is coming for Crawford's belt after he won against Ugas recently. Spence is not in a bad situation here because he had a fight recently compared to Crawford that will be inactive for a year this coming months.
Crawford also said that if this fight won't happen this year then he will go for Jermell Charlo in the super welterweight so that he will at least have one fight this year after all the waiting game of Spence.

That is a kind of question where we cannot really give some speculation as the answer only relies to the both camps because they are the ones who are in the discussions and knows the true deal about this fight. But as for profits concern, I can say that this fight is already sold out even if this fight is still under discussion meaning this will be a blockbuster fight which frankly might be on the list of the fight that generates a lot of revenue along with the likes of Pacquiao, Canelo, and Mayweather.
But to answer your question that if Crawford is the one stalling the fight, I bet he isn't because he doesn't have the time to get this fight dragged as he will be inactive this November and he is not getting any younger as he will add another number to his age this year, September.

That is right! Although we know somehow that Crawford himself knows that he doesn't have any bargaining power at the table unless his cut will be lower than 40% then I think Crawford and his camp start to reconsider that if that is the case. Apart from that, I don't really know why it takes so long in giving some updates about their fight and Spence is really silent these days.

It is so difficult to blame Crawford for stalling this fight. I'll try to remember all the stuff since the boogeyman entered the welterweight division. It's always Crawford doing the challenging.  

1. When Crawford was then the undisputed champion at super-lightweight he said he will move up and will take Spence's IBF welterweight belt. Spence told Crawford to get a belt at welterweight first.  

2. Crawford arrived in the welterweight division and became champion. He and Bob Arum were already talking openly that they wanted Spence. Did you guys heard any tweets or interviews on Spence or even with his handler PBC challenging Crawford?

3. There was a certain event wherein Crawford personally approached Spence. Who's challenging for a fight? Who's challenging for a million-dollar beat? Spence mentioned names to fight like Mikey Garcia, Porter, and Thurman. And I love how Crawford tells him he missed mentioning his name. It's clear as day that Crawford was too confident, he was laughing and was always staring at Spence. Spence on the other hand seemed uncomfortable and was like faking his smile. Spence seemed scared and was like hoping to get out of the situation.

4. Crawford and Bob Arum were trying to negotiate and were very open in the public about it. Later Bob Arum was mad because there was no response on their offers nor counter offers from PBC.

5. Spence was in the building during Crawford's last fight against Porter. People were expecting him to climb the ring after the fight and set a direct challenge to the winner. Spence already beat Porter but in a controversial split decision. On the other hand, the boogeyman demolished Porter for the first time and sent him into retirement. Spence immediately left the building after the fight was stopped and was booed by the fans. Spence probably expected Porter to win or at least made the fight close, but there is no escaping once the boogeyman starts to figure out its opponent. So basically it really seems that Spence is avoiding and is scared to even face or talk or look Bud in the eye.

6. Crawford is inactive for nearly a year already. Because PBC, Showtime, and probably including Mayweather saying it's about time to make the Spence fight.

7. Crawford is turning 35 this October.

Kell Brook and Shaw Porter were the common opponents both stars already faced. Spence struggled against both fighters while Crawford dismantled them.

Yes, it seems that Crawford is stalling the fight? Or the other way other?

Spence will have the largest slice of the pie so I don't know what keeps him or PBC from not pushing this fight. Are they still looking for more profits? Or the guarantee price is not enough? And both of them have been showing intention to fight many years ago and now that they are negotiating, it seems that there are a lot of issues. And we have heard the date of October, but to be honest, this date might not be satisfied.

And beside he really wanted to make this to happen and Spence will make it sure that he will take the big slice

from the potential profits coming from PPV, Crawford should agree and make things to happen. It's been a long waited fight between
these two champs. It's good to see them both inside the same ring and throwing solid punches at one another. It's a desire inside
them to impress the fans and make sure that the worth of their stake is something that will inspire them to win.

I'm not sure if Crawford doesn't have any power to demand more money, actually I'd think Spence is asking big money because he is the one who doesn't want to fight Crawford, instead he's asking big share, so he make Crawford to think fight with him isn't profitable.

Crawford have better statistic on pound for pound rank [1] and greater point too than Spence [2]

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_pound_for_pound_rankings
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welterweight