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Quote from: TravelMug on June 20, 2022, 11:21:01 PM

So this is going to be his biggest pay, if my theory is right. So probably guarantee of upward to $8 million, and Spence around $10 million.

Agree with you. Since there is no doubt, that this will be Terence Crawford's biggest fight in his career, expect that this is also the biggest paycheck he might receive regardless of the result. Errol Spence Jr. is considered as the King of PPV and will surely grab more audiences making the purse big.

If I remember it right, back then, when Crawford was offered to fight Pacquiao, a guaranteed $10 million is being offered to him, win or loss. It stated that amount will be the highest paycheck that Crawford will receive in his entire boxing career. Just correct me if I'm wrong here.

Here against Spence, he might earn more than that even the purse split will be 60/40 in favor of Spence Jr.

That's huge money for just one fight, and for sure Crawford can't refused that offer. It's guarantee and I think the PPV income is not yet included so it could really go up.

There's no surprised there, both are in their prime and no losses yet, so someone will have to take that 0 away. And currently, it's going to be a tossed up, but there are few who thinks that Crawford will be the slight favorite so he should take the 40%.

Fans are excited about this fight and hopefully we can hear some updates in the next couple of weeks or even an official statement if October will be their target fight.

Yes, we are all very excited, undisputed and for pound for pound king whoever wins this fight. If October is their target date, ample date for them to negotiation and iron things out before announcing it to the public.

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Quote from: TravelMug on June 20, 2022, 11:21:01 PM

So this is going to be his biggest pay, if my theory is right. So probably guarantee of upward to $8 million, and Spence around $10 million.

Agree with you. Since there is no doubt, that this will be Terence Crawford's biggest fight in his career, expect that this is also the biggest paycheck he might receive regardless of the result. Errol Spence Jr. is considered as the King of PPV and will surely grab more audiences making the purse big.

If I remember it right, back then, when Crawford was offered to fight Pacquiao, a guaranteed $10 million is being offered to him, win or loss. It stated that amount will be the highest paycheck that Crawford will receive in his entire boxing career. Just correct me if I'm wrong here.

Here against Spence, he might earn more than that even the purse split will be 60/40 in favor of Spence Jr.

That's huge money for just one fight, and for sure Crawford can't refused that offer. It's guarantee and I think the PPV income is not yet included so it could really go up.

Fans are excited about this fight and hopefully we can hear some updates in the next couple of weeks or even an official statement if October will be their target fight.

Exactly, that's why Crawford should accept that 40% cut of the purse because that's already big enough for him and just like @harizen is saying, maybe he can get more than Spence because Crawford is a free-agent. Also, a 40% guaranteed cut in the purse is not the only thing he'll get as the PPV revenue is not yet included.

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So this is going to be his biggest pay, if my theory is right. So probably guarantee of upward to $8 million, and Spence around $10 million.

Agree with you. Since there is no doubt, that this will be Terence Crawford's biggest fight in his career, expect that this is also the biggest paycheck he might receive regardless of the result. Errol Spence Jr. is considered as the King of PPV and will surely grab more audiences making the purse big.

If I remember it right, back then, when Crawford was offered to fight Pacquiao, a guaranteed $10 million is being offered to him, win or loss. It stated that amount will be the highest paycheck that Crawford will receive in his entire boxing career. Just correct me if I'm wrong here.

Here against Spence, he might earn more than that even the purse split will be 60/40 in favor of Spence Jr.

No doubt, Crawford will really earn good and receive a pretty handful paycheck whether he's the hailed winner or loser in this fight because the Crawford-Spence undisputed fight will surely be the biggest match of the year. Actually, he doesn't even need to try and sell the fight because Spence already got that covered for sure as the PPV King.

And yes, you're right that Pacquiao offered Crawford a guaranteed $10 Million if the fight will materialize but Bob Arum didn't approve the offer knowing that Bob always wanted wanted more and a $10M ain't making Bob interested.

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So this is going to be his biggest pay, if my theory is right. So probably guarantee of upward to $8 million, and Spence around $10 million.

Agree with you. Since there is no doubt, that this will be Terence Crawford's biggest fight in his career, expect that this is also the biggest paycheck he might receive regardless of the result. Errol Spence Jr. is considered as the King of PPV and will surely grab more audiences making the purse big.

If I remember it right, back then, when Crawford was offered to fight Pacquiao, a guaranteed $10 million is being offered to him, win or loss. It stated that amount will be the highest paycheck that Crawford will receive in his entire boxing career. Just correct me if I'm wrong here.

Here against Spence, he might earn more than that even the purse split will be 60/40 in favor of Spence Jr.

That's huge money for just one fight, and for sure Crawford can't refused that offer. It's guarantee and I think the PPV income is not yet included so it could really go up.

Fans are excited about this fight and hopefully we can hear some updates in the next couple of weeks or even an official statement if October will be their target fight.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 20, 2022, 02:29:48 PM

So this is going to be his biggest pay, if my theory is right. So probably guarantee of upward to $8 million, and Spence around $10 million.

Agree with you. Since there is no doubt, that this will be Terence Crawford's biggest fight in his career, expect that this is also the biggest paycheck he might receive regardless of the result. Errol Spence Jr. is considered as the King of PPV and will surely grab more audiences making the purse big.

If I remember it right, back then, when Crawford was offered to fight Pacquiao, a guaranteed $10 million is being offered to him, win or loss. It stated that amount will be the highest paycheck that Crawford will receive in his entire boxing career. Just correct me if I'm wrong here.

Here against Spence, he might earn more than that even the purse split will be 60/40 in favor of Spence Jr.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 19, 2022, 09:46:42 PM

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After all, if he managed to successfully beat Spence, he will become the undisputed Welterweight champion and can demand a much higher cut in his future fight. And knowing Spence, he can bring more PPV to the fight and is known to always have a sold-out ticket in his every fight. That alone is a reason why 40% is still good money in return for Crawford.

Crawford can like it that way, if he beat Spence he will have all the belts. And as we call it, become the A-side in negotiations. If they will have the rematch, then it will be the opposite, he can demand a 60 or higher split and Spence will have to say yes as he doesn't have the bargaining power in the table.

For now, Crawford should just be patient on his current situation as he's not the one who puts the most food on the table. His only contribution is his WBO belt which Spence also needed to become the undisputed boxer in welterweight. But I think they are already done with that kind of discussion as Spence was already vocal that he's taking the bigger slice and the fact that they're having a discussion now means that they way past about that, the question is, what's their remaining agenda?

I think that's what he is doing right now, he is trying to be patient in this negotiations. And still good for him if he get the short end of the bargaining deal. 40% is not that bad as he might get 80-20 split max in his previous fight with Bob Arum as promotional manager and yet not getting it full because we all know that Top Rank will also have some percentage. So this is going to be his biggest pay, if my theory is right. So probably guarantee of upward to $8 million, and Spence around $10 million.

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After all, if he managed to successfully beat Spence, he will become the undisputed Welterweight champion and can demand a much higher cut in his future fight. And knowing Spence, he can bring more PPV to the fight and is known to always have a sold-out ticket in his every fight. That alone is a reason why 40% is still good money in return for Crawford.

Crawford can like it that way, if he beat Spence he will have all the belts. And as we call it, become the A-side in negotiations. If they will have the rematch, then it will be the opposite, he can demand a 60 or higher split and Spence will have to say yes as he doesn't have the bargaining power in the table.

For now, Crawford should just be patient on his current situation as he's not the one who puts the most food on the table. His only contribution is his WBO belt which Spence also needed to become the undisputed boxer in welterweight. But I think they are already done with that kind of discussion as Spence was already vocal that he's taking the bigger slice and the fact that they're having a discussion now means that they way past about that, the question is, what's their remaining agenda?

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So if this fight came into reality, not sure who will be the favorite, maybe just a slight on favor on Crawford. So it's really up to Spence to show up in this fight and maybe motivated if he will indeed the underdog as he has better resume and opposition and has more belt in the table that could swing the 60-40 purse split on him.

I think it's the other way around and Spence will be the slight favorite. But odds shouldn't that gap.

We still don't know the reason why the fight is still not officially announced but based on some article lurking around, we can assume that it's about the possible split. I don't know but if it's true that Crawford doesn't like the 60-40, I think he's not the Crawford before that eyes for long in facing Spence. I think regardless of the split, of course as long as it's reasonable, he will take the much smaller cut just to settle things with Spence.

After all, if he managed to successfully beat Spence, he will become the undisputed Welterweight champion and can demand a much higher cut in his future fight. And knowing Spence, he can bring more PPV to the fight and is known to always have a sold-out ticket in his every fight. That alone is a reason why 40% is still good money in return for Crawford.

Same here, I think Spence will be the slight favorite over Crawford but that will be confirmed soon enough like a few weeks after they announce the final details regarding the fight.

Regarding their split, that's shocking if indeed that's true and that Crawford is asking a fair share of the purse and not a 60/40 split. He should go with that split to make the fight happen as he needs Spence more than the other way around, if this fight won't materialize this year then he might find himself at a disadvantage as he will be older as time goes by.

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So if this fight came into reality, not sure who will be the favorite, maybe just a slight on favor on Crawford. So it's really up to Spence to show up in this fight and maybe motivated if he will indeed the underdog as he has better resume and opposition and has more belt in the table that could swing the 60-40 purse split on him.

I think it's the other way around and Spence will be the slight favorite. But odds shouldn't that gap.

Yes, maybe just a couple, give or take, but it will not be further by maybe .10 or something. I reckon it could be like 1.8x to 1.9x as the opening line. We will just have to wait and see who is the favorite.

We still don't know the reason why the fight is still not officially announced but based on some article lurking around, we can assume that it's about the possible split. I don't know but if it's true that Crawford doesn't like the 60-40, I think he's not the Crawford before that eyes for long in facing Spence. I think regardless of the split, of course as long as it's reasonable, he will take the much smaller cut just to settle things with Spence.

Years, ago when Crawford is still with Arum, there are articles that says Spence is calling for 80/20 or 70/30. But in the last year or two, I think Crawford has close that gap, with his win against Porter.

After all, if he managed to successfully beat Spence, he will become the undisputed Welterweight champion and can demand a much higher cut in his future fight. And knowing Spence, he can bring more PPV to the fight and is known to always have a sold-out ticket in his every fight. That alone is a reason why 40% is still good money in return for Crawford.

Crawford can like it that way, if he beat Spence he will have all the belts. And as we call it, become the A-side in negotiations. If they will have the rematch, then it will be the opposite, he can demand a 60 or higher split and Spence will have to say yes as he doesn't have the bargaining power in the table.

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So if this fight came into reality, not sure who will be the favorite, maybe just a slight on favor on Crawford. So it's really up to Spence to show up in this fight and maybe motivated if he will indeed the underdog as he has better resume and opposition and has more belt in the table that could swing the 60-40 purse split on him.

I think it's the other way around and Spence will be the slight favorite. But odds shouldn't that gap.

We still don't know the reason why the fight is still not officially announced but based on some article lurking around, we can assume that it's about the possible split. I don't know but if it's true that Crawford doesn't like the 60-40, I think he's not the Crawford before that eyes for long in facing Spence. I think regardless of the split, of course as long as it's reasonable, he will take the much smaller cut just to settle things with Spence.

After all, if he managed to successfully beat Spence, he will become the undisputed Welterweight champion and can demand a much higher cut in his future fight. And knowing Spence, he can bring more PPV to the fight and is known to always have a sold-out ticket in his every fight. That alone is a reason why 40% is still good money in return for Crawford.

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Quote from: Shamm on June 18, 2022, 03:58:16 PM

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Quote from: Shamm on June 18, 2022, 03:58:16 PM

^^ I think it will back fire on Crawford if this fight will break down just because he wants more or at least 50/50. He is a good fighter no doubt, but his PPV numbers are not that good compare to Spence and he should accept that fact.

So we can say that Spence is the A-sde and could be dictating the terms. But that should be fine with Crawford. What is foremost is that this fight is going to be made without any manager excuses on the side of Crawford. Because that has been the sticking point ever since, Bob Arum doesn't want to deal or wont allow Crawford face a PBC fighter. That is eliminate since he is managing his own career now.

Spence has nothing to lose if Crawford will choose not to make this fight happen, both are still undefeated but based on the number of belts, Spence has an edge and most of his opponents are quality opponents compared to Crawford. He should not be greedy here, be smart and take the chance even if he only gets 40% of the total purse or revenue.

Spence won't ever be considered the best if he doesn't fight Crawford. This fight needs to go off for both fighters, otherwise there will always be an asterisk next to theor name and belts. Imo Spence shoukd consider himself lucky if this fight doesn't come together. He doesn't want any part of Crawford

Crawford and Spence need to move to another step which they need to fight in order to know who is the best in their division we all know that Crawford has a lot of matches than Spence in their career but still if a player has a strategy focus and plan then he will be te champ and that's Spence in my perspective he can defeat Crawford even he can not knock down Crawford at least via split decision is enough hoping that he win .

And that's what they are doing right now isn't it? Trying to negotiate or maybe it's really done by this day. Maybe the only issue is the venue, but I heard rumors that it will be in Las Vegas.

So if this fight came into reality, not sure who will be the favorite, maybe just a slight on favor on Crawford. So it's really up to Spence to show up in this fight and maybe motivated if he will indeed the underdog as he has better resume and opposition and has more belt in the table that could swing the 60-40 purse split on him.

Maybe it's the other way around because they certainly would not want their fight date to be near with the Canelo-GGG trilogy fight, so the date is really crucial for both parties and they wanted to make sure that the dates won't conflict with each other. About the place, yes, there's a rumor that the venue will be at Las Vegas where both of them is neutral.

I bet Crawford is the one who tries hard to negotiate the fight because he knows that his numbers are getting older while Spence is still on his peak, time is his enemy. 60/40 split is still a win-win situation for Crawford as he knows that Spence has more belt on the table and the latter can maximize the PPV revenue than him.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on June 18, 2022, 11:15:14 AM

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^^ I think it will back fire on Crawford if this fight will break down just because he wants more or at least 50/50. He is a good fighter no doubt, but his PPV numbers are not that good compare to Spence and he should accept that fact.

So we can say that Spence is the A-sde and could be dictating the terms. But that should be fine with Crawford. What is foremost is that this fight is going to be made without any manager excuses on the side of Crawford. Because that has been the sticking point ever since, Bob Arum doesn't want to deal or wont allow Crawford face a PBC fighter. That is eliminate since he is managing his own career now.

Spence has nothing to lose if Crawford will choose not to make this fight happen, both are still undefeated but based on the number of belts, Spence has an edge and most of his opponents are quality opponents compared to Crawford. He should not be greedy here, be smart and take the chance even if he only gets 40% of the total purse or revenue.

Spence won't ever be considered the best if he doesn't fight Crawford. This fight needs to go off for both fighters, otherwise there will always be an asterisk next to theor name and belts. Imo Spence shoukd consider himself lucky if this fight doesn't come together. He doesn't want any part of Crawford

Crawford and Spence need to move to another step which they need to fight in order to know who is the best in their division we all know that Crawford has a lot of matches than Spence in their career but still if a player has a strategy focus and plan then he will be te champ and that's Spence in my perspective he can defeat Crawford even he can not knock down Crawford at least via split decision is enough hoping that he win .

And that's what they are doing right now isn't it? Trying to negotiate or maybe it's really done by this day. Maybe the only issue is the venue, but I heard rumors that it will be in Las Vegas.

So if this fight came into reality, not sure who will be the favorite, maybe just a slight on favor on Crawford. So it's really up to Spence to show up in this fight and maybe motivated if he will indeed the underdog as he has better resume and opposition and has more belt in the table that could swing the 60-40 purse split on him.

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Are there any updates about this fight? Hopefully, they can announce it before the end of June.

Terence Crawford gives Errol Spence Jr fight update

Terence Crawford himself gives an update recently that they are still trying to make the fight possible.

And I quote from the article:

"What makes things difficult is the 34-year-old Crawford only has one belt to Spence’s three, and he’s not a huge pay-per-view attraction or ticket seller like him. Although Crawford is ranked ahead of Spence in Ring Magazine’s pound-for-pound list at #3 to his #4, there’s not enough of a cushion to help in the negotiations."

It's clear that the main subject here is maybe the split. Spence may be demanding a much higher split above 60-40 because of his pay-per-view revenue and multi-title in possession. That seems reasonable to be demanded by Spence. If everything failed, Crawford may consider moving up weight instead and forget fighting Spence until the latter calls for him.

So what is happening in this fight? I thought this is already settled and there's already a date of the said fight. Well, 60/40 should be a good split, Spence Jr. has more belts and he deserve a higher cut of the revenue, I hope Crawford will understand that because if he wins this fight, he will be the undisputed champion.

Crawford should take the smaller financial take on this fight? Man I hope this fight goes off now. A pissed off disrespected Crawford will whoop Spence's ass. Crawford been disrespected his whole career, and all he does is completely wreck everyone in the ring. This should go off at 50/50 with the winner getting the belts. I see no other way this will go off.

Well, we have our own opinion regarding the split, but based on record they are both undefeated while Spence is holding more belts than Spence, so there's no way this fight will go 50/50 unless Spence will agree to that, but if Spence will demand a higher percentage, I think he deserves that.

This is business, it's not about the records or how good you are, it's all about your market value and Spence has been a better PPV attraction than Crawford, so he can say take it or leave it and just move up in weight.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 17, 2022, 09:41:52 AM

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^^ I think it will back fire on Crawford if this fight will break down just because he wants more or at least 50/50. He is a good fighter no doubt, but his PPV numbers are not that good compare to Spence and he should accept that fact.

So we can say that Spence is the A-sde and could be dictating the terms. But that should be fine with Crawford. What is foremost is that this fight is going to be made without any manager excuses on the side of Crawford. Because that has been the sticking point ever since, Bob Arum doesn't want to deal or wont allow Crawford face a PBC fighter. That is eliminate since he is managing his own career now.

Spence has nothing to lose if Crawford will choose not to make this fight happen, both are still undefeated but based on the number of belts, Spence has an edge and most of his opponents are quality opponents compared to Crawford. He should not be greedy here, be smart and take the chance even if he only gets 40% of the total purse or revenue.

Spence won't ever be considered the best if he doesn't fight Crawford. This fight needs to go off for both fighters, otherwise there will always be an asterisk next to theor name and belts. Imo Spence shoukd consider himself lucky if this fight doesn't come together. He doesn't want any part of Crawford

Crawford and Spence need to move to another step which they need to fight in order to know who is the best in their division we all know that Crawford has a lot of matches than Spence in their career but still if a player has a strategy focus and plan then he will be te champ and that's Spence in my perspective he can defeat Crawford even he can not knock down Crawford at least via split decision is enough hoping that he win .

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