Topic: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 38. (Read 8536 times)

I mean I wouldn't just take anything if I was Crawford.  Point being Bob Arum it wasn't always pure dollars and cents, he always wanted to set up fights that would favor a fighter over another.  If Crawford loses he loses interest for ppv fights.  Bob knows that. 

As of now, the news is still the same and that they are still on the works to finish their negotiations to make the fight happen somewhere in October. People is already excited for this undisputed fight to happen and we really don't know what's the roadblock this time on why does the both camps is still not come up in terms. I surely hope that they are done talking with the cuts because I think that Crawford is indeed ready to accept that Spence will get the bigger slice of the purse.

But not all boxers loved his style, I believe there are plenty of boxing superstars that left his promotion because they are not getting the fights they like. Just like Manny Pacquiao, when he left Bob, he had the full freedom to choose the boxer that he lights to fight, and Manny had already earn more money in a fight since Bob has no more slice of the revenue.

Bob has been in the business for decades I believe, so what can you expect? He is already clever enough to ensure that the cash flow will continue, and that includes looking for a fight that his fighter will win so he can continue milking it.

^^ I guess it's how boxing is right now, or at least in the last 20 years, it is being controlled by few and very powerful men.

It's not just the promoters themselves, but we also have the network wars, like HBO and Showtime, and now DAZN and ESPN.

Al Haymon is very powerful and same as Bob Arum or before that, Don King. So it's a vicious cycle than only few men really benefited.

I guess Bob's careful match making, and that's why he made a lot of champions, and not sure about it, but perhaps it was all in-house championship fights.

I'm not a big fan of Bob especially over the last decade. But let's roll down his scroll to take a look at some of his performance over the years.

Oscar dela Hoya- A 5 division champion. Former number 1 pound for pound by the Ring Magazine.

Floyd Mayweather- Became a 3 division champion during his tenure with Top Rank. A former Ring Magazine number 1 pound for pound. He later left Top Rank and went on to became a 5 division champion.

Manny Pacquiao- He was already a 3 division champion when he joined Top Rank. Under Top Rank he became an 8 division champion and Ring Magazine pound for pound number 1.

Miguel Cotto- 4 division world champion.

Vassily Lomachenko- Was given a title fight in only his 2nd professional fight. Although he lost in a controversial fight, he did became champion in his 3rd professional fight. Currently a 3 division champion. Not sure but I think he also became a pound for pound top 1 by Ring Magazine.

Terrence Crawford- A 3 division world champion. A former number 1 pound for pound by Ring Magazine. Became undisputed champion in super lightweight.

The list can go on for a while but how about Al Haymon's PBC (Errol Spence handler)? I remember when Spence said that he would replace Mayweather jr. after its retirement. But Spence is already 30 and is yet to add another division in his resume.

Is it really Bob Arum that caused Spence and Bud failed to fight each other? Even if this fight won't happen, Bud is already a sure Hall of Famer with his achievement under Top Rank. While Spence current achievement is not enough to even get a nomination in the Hall of Fame.

Obviously, all these promoters are businessmen and perhaps greedy too. But it is a fact that Bob is also willing to a joint promotion even if its main fighters are the underdogs, just like when Pac fought Mayweather and Fury against Wilder II. So how about PBC? It seems not willing to risk its main fighters when they're the underdogs?

Delay is not good, if Floyd would use his strategy that he only fought Pacman when he is not in his prime anymore, I hope that would not happen here. Both boxers are in their prime, the fans deserve to see and witness a big fight and know how is the better between the two fighters.

So that's how powerful Floyd, a power broker in boxing. Obviously he has make a name for himself and that's where the respect is coming from, undefeated, the richest boxer in history.

But all we wanted to see is this fight happening, I mean no need to delay. And of all the boxers, Floyd should know how big the money is in the table right now so no need to delay. And if he wanted the fight happen to his home town I guess there will be no problem for both.

Could be, but it will be definitely Floyd hand has some "blessings" in this fight. Him and Crawford in public together? hmmm your guess is as good as mine. Maybe not direct manager per se, but Crawford might be asking for some advise  from him. And if everything is not settled within the time frame, then maybe next year is the schedule and it could be in Floyd's backyard of Las Vegas. And imagine the money that is going to flow on fight night, casino's, hotels everyone will be making money out of this mega fight.

I guess Crawford has no reason to decline this fight to happen on October or this year (maybe). On his statement he said he is free whatever he wants and that is no relevant reason for this fight to happen anytime. Crawford is more than ready for this.
Now, if something's holding up for this fight to happen sooner, I think that should be on Spence's end.

There might be some truth in what Floyd Mayweather is speculating despite having a hidden agenda, however. He might have information of the sensitive occurrences in those negotiations. Also, I disagree that Spence vs. Crawford will be this year if October schedule is not confirmed. I speculate that it might be on 2023 or 2024.

There is no official news released that both parties are disagreeing with the cut. Maybe there are other things that it's not allowed to share in public for now about what's the current score, progress, and status of the negotiation of this fight as it might affect the pre-planned working deals. Just come to think of it, both boxers are desired to face each other and they are very vocal about their anticipated match.

Whether on what part they are still not agreeing, that will surely be settled as they progress.

If that's the case then Terence Crawford should accept without hesitation the much smaller cut. The purpose of fighting Errol Spence is his target for a long and that should be the reason why he should move forward on this fight regardless of how much he will receive as long as it's a reasonable price.

In my posted article before, the reason for the delay announcement is about the split but Crawford makes assurance that it's not that really a problem for them to finally settle a deal. I'm sure what's left to be finalized are all small things to consider.

We just have to wait patiently for the official announcement as it's still several months to go before the fight happened.

Bob aram is literally why this fight never happened before along with some of the other fights that passed.  Glad the dude is own his own to make these fights happen.  Hopefully more boxers stop combining over money and go the route Crawford is they can chose to fight a guy if they want to no matter the terms.  Was so glad when I heard Bob was off the grid.

Yes, that is why Crawford was very eager to make this fight happen because he had been calling this for years now but it was not materialized as Bob Arum was still taking the most decision for him but this time, he's a free man that is why the fight is now under negotiations.
True, the fight must happen because the time is not on Crawford's side and that 40% is already a big payout for sure.

Nah! I don't honestly think that Spence Jr. would accept a 40% cut of the purse, he's been already vocal about it that he should have the bigger slice as he has more belt in the table and I think Crawford will happily get that 40% though just to make the fight happen because if this drags again then Crawford will be on the disadvantage.

Both crowd and the belt he currently holding gives him that privilege to ask for a bigger slice of the profits.

Aside from the titles and the fame, both camps are more into the money that this fight is possibly generating. It's disappointing
to the fans who are waiting if in anyhow the negotiations will not materialize.

Both respected champs are expected to have their own demands and they need to settle it together with the promoters that
will hold the fight once both camps sign the contract.

We know Floyd, he knows how to hype and to make the attention focus on him, I believe that there's already a negotiation between him and Crawford and their team will negotiate with the team of Spence to make this big fight. The current status now maybe just a speculation, but there's really a possibiilty that this fight will be realized.

^^ Well Floyd has a obvious hidden agenda to tell us that there is negotiations, because he wanted Crawford to be his manager. And maybe if Bud Crawford will sign with him, then that is the time that this fight is going to be made, hehehe. But still the fight can still be made in October, we still have 3 months of it and many things can happen along the way to put this fight in schedule at least for this year.

According to Floyd Mayweather, those rumors that the negotiations between Spence's team and Crawford's team to organize this fight for October is only fake news. Is Mayweather also speculating that the teams of Spence and Crawford are also using a similar tactic as his team and team Pacman? The tactic is make everyone wait until the money is very big enough hehehe.



Floyd Mayweather shut down rumors about the Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford undisputed clash.

The newly inducted Hall of Famer cut off the rumored October date for Spence vs Crawford during a press conference with MMA star Mikuru Asakura, who he will face in an exhibition match in September.

Last week, ESPN’s Mike Coppinger said the negotiations are still ongoing, but the undisputed welterweight championship is targeted for October. Mayweather said otherwise.

“…I seen, if I am not mistaken, someone threw out a date or a month,” Mayweather said.

“Not true. When it is true y’all will hear it from me first or from Fighthype.”

Source https://www.fightsports.tv/floyd-mayweather-said-october-date-for-errol-spence-jr-vs-terence-crawford-is-not-true/