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Topic: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 23. (Read 3659 times)

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Is that sealed already? I mean Crawford vs Thurman fight? Never saw any articles though, so I'm thinking this could be just an speculation although chances are high since Thurman just won against Barrios.
Yeah it's still a speculations and no official agreement, Thurman also want to fight with Crawford...so it may likely happen https://box.live/fights/crawford-vs-thurman/

So there is plenty of money for this fight, so Spence should not stay away from fighting Crawford. Both of them are way over 30 years old so just about time that they should look for their future without boxing. So make the most money and this is the biggest paycheck for them for sure. They can split the purse 50-50 simply as that.
It's true there's a good prize if Spence vs Crawford happen, but it just one time huge paycheck... the one who lose will ruin his reputation and popularity. This will make they can't earn more money in the long term, so Spence is play safe here. The highest upset on previous year between Lopez vs Kambosos, Lopez lose all his belts and there's no fight until now.

we need to see first this spence jr vs ugas match first. and maybe, this spence vs crawford is up next. that is, if their respective promoters will agree with the purse split. remember, mayweather vs pacquiao before. their promoters couldnt agree the purse split for their fighters, hence, got it delayed so many times.
with spence jr vs crawford, same thing may possibly happen. if spence will beat ugas, then he should go for crawford next.

Crawford promotes himself now, Spence if I remember it right, is under Al Haymon. So that fight can be made because there's no more promotional hindrance on the side of Crawford. But there are a lot of things to settle because this is a mega-fight, specially the money between the two fighter. Most of the time this is the biggest issue, but hopefully Crawford regardless of what is he is getting, is willing to fight Spence Jr.



50-50 is a good share as they are both champions. Before, we were thinking that Top Rank does not want Crawford to fight Spence, now that Crawford is promoting himself, there's no more excuse, and if both fighters are willing to risk their undefeated record, they should give the best fight for the fans.
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Is that sealed already? I mean Crawford vs Thurman fight? Never saw any articles though, so I'm thinking this could be just an speculation although chances are high since Thurman just won against Barrios.
Yeah it's still a speculations and no official agreement, Thurman also want to fight with Crawford...so it may likely happen https://box.live/fights/crawford-vs-thurman/

So there is plenty of money for this fight, so Spence should not stay away from fighting Crawford. Both of them are way over 30 years old so just about time that they should look for their future without boxing. So make the most money and this is the biggest paycheck for them for sure. They can split the purse 50-50 simply as that.
It's true there's a good prize if Spence vs Crawford happen, but it just one time huge paycheck... the one who lose will ruin his reputation and popularity. This will make they can't earn more money in the long term, so Spence is play safe here. The highest upset on previous year between Lopez vs Kambosos, Lopez lose all his belts and there's no fight until now.

we need to see first this spence jr vs ugas match first. and maybe, this spence vs crawford is up next. that is, if their respective promoters will agree with the purse split. remember, mayweather vs pacquiao before. their promoters couldnt agree the purse split for their fighters, hence, got it delayed so many times.
with spence jr vs crawford, same thing may possibly happen. if spence will beat ugas, then he should go for crawford next.

Crawford promotes himself now, Spence if I remember it right, is under Al Haymon. So that fight can be made because there's no more promotional hindrance on the side of Crawford. But there are a lot of things to settle because this is a mega-fight, specially the money between the two fighter. Most of the time this is the biggest issue, but hopefully Crawford regardless of what is he is getting, is willing to fight Spence Jr.

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Is that sealed already? I mean Crawford vs Thurman fight? Never saw any articles though, so I'm thinking this could be just an speculation although chances are high since Thurman just won against Barrios.
Yeah it's still a speculations and no official agreement, Thurman also want to fight with Crawford...so it may likely happen https://box.live/fights/crawford-vs-thurman/

So there is plenty of money for this fight, so Spence should not stay away from fighting Crawford. Both of them are way over 30 years old so just about time that they should look for their future without boxing. So make the most money and this is the biggest paycheck for them for sure. They can split the purse 50-50 simply as that.
It's true there's a good prize if Spence vs Crawford happen, but it just one time huge paycheck... the one who lose will ruin his reputation and popularity. This will make they can't earn more money in the long term, so Spence is play safe here. The highest upset on previous year between Lopez vs Kambosos, Lopez lose all his belts and there's no fight until now.

we need to see first this spence jr vs ugas match first. and maybe, this spence vs crawford is up next. that is, if their respective promoters will agree with the purse split. remember, mayweather vs pacquiao before. their promoters couldnt agree the purse split for their fighters, hence, got it delayed so many times.
with spence jr vs crawford, same thing may possibly happen. if spence will beat ugas, then he should go for crawford next.
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Is that sealed already? I mean Crawford vs Thurman fight? Never saw any articles though, so I'm thinking this could be just an speculation although chances are high since Thurman just won against Barrios.
Yeah it's still a speculations and no official agreement, Thurman also want to fight with Crawford...so it may likely happen https://box.live/fights/crawford-vs-thurman/

So there is plenty of money for this fight, so Spence should not stay away from fighting Crawford. Both of them are way over 30 years old so just about time that they should look for their future without boxing. So make the most money and this is the biggest paycheck for them for sure. They can split the purse 50-50 simply as that.
It's true there's a good prize if Spence vs Crawford happen, but it just one time huge paycheck... the one who lose will ruin his reputation and popularity. This will make they can't earn more money in the long term, so Spence is play safe here. The highest upset on previous year between Lopez vs Kambosos, Lopez lose all his belts and there's no fight until now.
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen. 

Agreed. However, Terence Crawford's next fight will be vs. Keith Thurman. According to some articles, Ugas wants to fight Crawford if he wins but it appears Errol Spence wants to avoid Crawford if he wins. I reckon the promoters might organize this when they are already not in their top shape similar to Brook versus Khan.

Is that sealed already? I mean Crawford vs Thurman fight? Never saw any articles though, so I'm thinking this could be just an speculation although chances are high since Thurman just won against Barrios.

But I somewhat agree with your point at Spence, he seems to be avoiding discussion about Crawford and even downplay that he didn't need him for his legacy.

Not sure if he is really avoiding Crawford, this could be the for the unification of the belts in this division. And it could be the first time that we will see all the belts in line if ever they face each other.

So there is plenty of money for this fight, so Spence should not stay away from fighting Crawford. Both of them are way over 30 years old so just about time that they should look for their future without boxing. So make the most money and this is the biggest paycheck for them for sure. They can split the purse 50-50 simply as that.
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen. 

Agreed. However, Terence Crawford's next fight will be vs. Keith Thurman. According to some articles, Ugas wants to fight Crawford if he wins but it appears Errol Spence wants to avoid Crawford if he wins. I reckon the promoters might organize this when they are already not in their top shape similar to Brook versus Khan.

Is that sealed already? I mean Crawford vs Thurman fight? Never saw any articles though, so I'm thinking this could be just an speculation although chances are high since Thurman just won against Barrios.

But I somewhat agree with your point at Spence, he seems to be avoiding discussion about Crawford and even downplay that he didn't need him for his legacy.
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen. 

The possibility for that to happen is high if Spence will win this fight. There's no other opponent left for Spence to unify all the belts but only Terence Crawford. They can do it in September after the April bout between Spence and Ugas.

But I don't hype anymore with Crawford vs Spence due to lots of delays that happened to make that official.

Rooting for Ugas to win the fight as it's more entertaining to see an upset.
Crawford even directly insinuated this after he defeated Porter in his fight some time ago Cheesy
He said "Who is number one in the welterweight division now?" and of course many of them were looking at Spence because it was during the fight that Spence was also there to witness.
Really hope this will happen because indeed this will be one great fight and of course there will be a lot of eyes that want to see this fight

This will happen, I mean there is no other choice for these boxers but to face each other. Spence though has 2 or 3 of the belts and then 1 for Crawford. So if Spence gets past Ugas here, it only make sense for this two to tango in the ring.

The good part is that Spence is not overlooking Ugas right now, he is focus on him and he knows that this is going to be very difficult fight for him. For sure he will talk about Crawford once he win this fight first.

Just because it lines up it all comes down to money and if it makes sense for both sides.  Crawford don't care who he fights.  His angle has always been to be the pound for pound best.  I'd love to see his go at with with Spence.  I don't buy many of the fights but I'd pony up for that one.  Boxing needs that fight to happen.  Crawford is fun to watch, always liked seeing him in the ring.
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen.  

Agreed. However, Terence Crawford's next fight will be vs. Keith Thurman. According to some articles, Ugas wants to fight Crawford if he wins but it appears Errol Spence wants to avoid Crawford if he wins. I reckon the promoters might organize this when they are already not in their top shape similar to Brook versus Khan.

Oh yeah? I think I didn't heard about that because the first rumored fight of Keith Thurman is against Donaire but again it was just also a rumored one, anyway we can only do some speculations and the promoters will have the last say if indeed it will be good for their boxer, or if the is too good. We cannot really know for sure if who's going to face Keith Thurman next.

That's all fake news, this guys are a bantamweight fighter, just 115-118 lbs, so there's no way that they are going to jump to 147 lbs and fight Thurman. Unless you are a Pacquiao or Canelo Alvarez.

We will see who is fighting who base on the result of this fight. Lots of rumors going on, of course the big fight we all wanted is Crawford vs Spence, but still Spence has go and win against Ugas first and then they can sit down and talk about the money and purse. I think that's the big obstacle here, both  wanted more money because they think they are the A-side.
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen.  

Agreed. However, Terence Crawford's next fight will be vs. Keith Thurman. According to some articles, Ugas wants to fight Crawford if he wins but it appears Errol Spence wants to avoid Crawford if he wins. I reckon the promoters might organize this when they are already not in their top shape similar to Brook versus Khan.

Oh yeah? I think I didn't heard about that because the first rumored fight of Keith Thurman is against Donaire but again it was just also a rumored one, anyway we can only do some speculations and the promoters will have the last say if indeed it will be good for their boxer, or if the is too good. We cannot really know for sure if who's going to face Keith Thurman next.
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Crawford even directly insinuated this after he defeated Porter in his fight some time ago Cheesy
He said "Who is number one in the welterweight division now?" and of course many of them were looking at Spence because it was during the fight that Spence was also there to witness.
Really hope this will happen because indeed this will be one great fight and of course there will be a lot of eyes that want to see this fight

This will happen, I mean there is no other choice for these boxers but to face each other. Spence though has 2 or 3 of the belts and then 1 for Crawford. So if Spence gets past Ugas here, it only make sense for this two to tango in the ring.

The good part is that Spence is not overlooking Ugas right now, he is focus on him and he knows that this is going to be very difficult fight for him. For sure he will talk about Crawford once he win this fight first.
I personally don't see Ugas' superiority in anything, he's known now but that's because he won against an old Pacquiao and this doesn't really make me feel like Ugas is a good fighter and the underdog.
Personally, I'm still pretty confident with Spence in this fight and it will be really exciting if the fight between them is held, hopefully this year it can still be next year or at least.
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I guess that is Ugas dream, to face a champion in this division and test himself against the best. He did win against Pacquaio and it could trigger in him that he can go and fight the best, so the stage is set for him and Spence to dance in the middle of the ring. So it's not about bravery, it's about fighting the best in your division and see if he can come up with a victory and get all the belt.

He succeeded against Pacman but people still doubt him because Pacman had some excuse after the fight, so now is his chance to fight a healthy champion, a younger one and the top 3 in the pound for pound. So it's a big challenge, hopefully we will match up well with Spence.

People doubt about him because they see Erol Spence as more stronger fighter but we know how the under dog Ugas defeat Pacquaio and he's win is so impressive knowing that many people expect him to be defeated by the champ. But since he already prove that he has a guts to defeat the Pacquaio then most provably we can see a exciting match up for their fight with Spence Jr.

That's right, in fact, Spence is the heavy favorite to win, so it's really a big challenge for Ugas to proved that he belong to the conversation and he can be as good as Spence and Crawford, so a win here is going to be big for his career, he could take down Crawford next, imagine if that will happen.

He's value will rise and popularity will burst since imagine he defeated those fighters who already left strong mark in the industry. But for now Ugas should remain focus and study how Spence move the floor since this could give them better chances to defeat him. For sure this bout will be awaited by many fans not since many are curious to know if Ugas will dominate again after he won with Pacquaio.
He would surely be recognized even more if he do able to beat up Spence on thig upcoming match yet this proves out that he could really climb up into the ladder and beating these popular starts

on the ring without needing much that fame as long he do stick out with his boxing and trying out and persevere then everything could really be possible which is something that he need

to proves out and we wont know if he would shock the world once again and we would able to see that or would still end up on getting not enough.

This is another huge break for his career after he defeat Pacquaio so I guess there's no easy thing in camp of Ugas so fans should consider this because for sure he will all he can just to defeat Spence so that he's stack will rise more and he will totally in line with greatest boxer of this time.

I don't know Ugas before but after what he show on his last fight where he totally dominate Pacquaio we can sat that he is a huge threat already for his oppenent.
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen. 

Agreed. However, Terence Crawford's next fight will be vs. Keith Thurman. According to some articles, Ugas wants to fight Crawford if he wins but it appears Errol Spence wants to avoid Crawford if he wins. I reckon the promoters might organize this when they are already not in their top shape similar to Brook versus Khan.
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen. 

The possibility for that to happen is high if Spence will win this fight. There's no other opponent left for Spence to unify all the belts but only Terence Crawford. They can do it in September after the April bout between Spence and Ugas.

But I don't hype anymore with Crawford vs Spence due to lots of delays that happened to make that official.

Rooting for Ugas to win the fight as it's more entertaining to see an upset.
Crawford even directly insinuated this after he defeated Porter in his fight some time ago Cheesy
He said "Who is number one in the welterweight division now?" and of course many of them were looking at Spence because it was during the fight that Spence was also there to witness.
Really hope this will happen because indeed this will be one great fight and of course there will be a lot of eyes that want to see this fight

This will happen, I mean there is no other choice for these boxers but to face each other. Spence though has 2 or 3 of the belts and then 1 for Crawford. So if Spence gets past Ugas here, it only make sense for this two to tango in the ring.

The good part is that Spence is not overlooking Ugas right now, he is focus on him and he knows that this is going to be very difficult fight for him. For sure he will talk about Crawford once he win this fight first.
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen. 

The possibility for that to happen is high if Spence will win this fight. There's no other opponent left for Spence to unify all the belts but only Terence Crawford. They can do it in September after the April bout between Spence and Ugas.

But I don't hype anymore with Crawford vs Spence due to lots of delays that happened to make that official.
I guess there's still a chance for a Crawford vs Spence to happen because Crawford now is not anymore working with  Bob, so he can decide on his future and he knows people will respect him if he fights the best and the winner of the Ugas vs Spence should be the best fighter he should fight with.

Rooting for Ugas to win the fight as it's more entertaining to see an upset.
Anything could happen, but I'm still rooting the favorite.  Smiley

Anyway, good luck, let's enjoy this fight, for sure there's firepower on it.
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen. 

The possibility for that to happen is high if Spence will win this fight. There's no other opponent left for Spence to unify all the belts but only Terence Crawford. They can do it in September after the April bout between Spence and Ugas.

But I don't hype anymore with Crawford vs Spence due to lots of delays that happened to make that official.

Rooting for Ugas to win the fight as it's more entertaining to see an upset.
Crawford even directly insinuated this after he defeated Porter in his fight some time ago Cheesy
He said "Who is number one in the welterweight division now?" and of course many of them were looking at Spence because it was during the fight that Spence was also there to witness.
Really hope this will happen because indeed this will be one great fight and of course there will be a lot of eyes that want to see this fight
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Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen. 

The possibility for that to happen is high if Spence will win this fight. There's no other opponent left for Spence to unify all the belts but only Terence Crawford. They can do it in September after the April bout between Spence and Ugas.

But I don't hype anymore with Crawford vs Spence due to lots of delays that happened to make that official.

Rooting for Ugas to win the fight as it's more entertaining to see an upset.
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I guess that is Ugas dream, to face a champion in this division and test himself against the best. He did win against Pacquaio and it could trigger in him that he can go and fight the best, so the stage is set for him and Spence to dance in the middle of the ring. So it's not about bravery, it's about fighting the best in your division and see if he can come up with a victory and get all the belt.

He succeeded against Pacman but people still doubt him because Pacman had some excuse after the fight, so now is his chance to fight a healthy champion, a younger one and the top 3 in the pound for pound. So it's a big challenge, hopefully we will match up well with Spence.

People doubt about him because they see Erol Spence as more stronger fighter but we know how the under dog Ugas defeat Pacquaio and he's win is so impressive knowing that many people expect him to be defeated by the champ. But since he already prove that he has a guts to defeat the Pacquaio then most provably we can see a exciting match up for their fight with Spence Jr.

That's right, in fact, Spence is the heavy favorite to win, so it's really a big challenge for Ugas to proved that he belong to the conversation and he can be as good as Spence and Crawford, so a win here is going to be big for his career, he could take down Crawford next, imagine if that will happen.

He's value will rise and popularity will burst since imagine he defeated those fighters who already left strong mark in the industry. But for now Ugas should remain focus and study how Spence move the floor since this could give them better chances to defeat him. For sure this bout will be awaited by many fans not since many are curious to know if Ugas will dominate again after he won with Pacquaio.
He would surely be recognized even more if he do able to beat up Spence on thig upcoming match yet this proves out that he could really climb up into the ladder and beating these popular starts

on the ring without needing much that fame as long he do stick out with his boxing and trying out and persevere then everything could really be possible which is something that he need

to proves out and we wont know if he would shock the world once again and we would able to see that or would still end up on getting not enough.

Really wish we can just finally see Spence fight Crawford.  That would be an epic fight.  Expecting Spence to take care of business here.  Hopefully they can work out the fight details to get the Crawford match done.  Would be one of the fights of the year if they can make it happen. 
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I guess that is Ugas dream, to face a champion in this division and test himself against the best. He did win against Pacquaio and it could trigger in him that he can go and fight the best, so the stage is set for him and Spence to dance in the middle of the ring. So it's not about bravery, it's about fighting the best in your division and see if he can come up with a victory and get all the belt.

He succeeded against Pacman but people still doubt him because Pacman had some excuse after the fight, so now is his chance to fight a healthy champion, a younger one and the top 3 in the pound for pound. So it's a big challenge, hopefully we will match up well with Spence.

People doubt about him because they see Erol Spence as more stronger fighter but we know how the under dog Ugas defeat Pacquaio and he's win is so impressive knowing that many people expect him to be defeated by the champ. But since he already prove that he has a guts to defeat the Pacquaio then most provably we can see a exciting match up for their fight with Spence Jr.

That's right, in fact, Spence is the heavy favorite to win, so it's really a big challenge for Ugas to proved that he belong to the conversation and he can be as good as Spence and Crawford, so a win here is going to be big for his career, he could take down Crawford next, imagine if that will happen.

He's value will rise and popularity will burst since imagine he defeated those fighters who already left strong mark in the industry. But for now Ugas should remain focus and study how Spence move the floor since this could give them better chances to defeat him. For sure this bout will be awaited by many fans not since many are curious to know if Ugas will dominate again after he won with Pacquaio.
He would surely be recognized even more if he do able to beat up Spence on thig upcoming match yet this proves out that he could really climb up into the ladder and beating these popular starts

on the ring without needing much that fame as long he do stick out with his boxing and trying out and persevere then everything could really be possible which is something that he need

to proves out and we wont know if he would shock the world once again and we would able to see that or would still end up on getting not enough.
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I guess that is Ugas dream, to face a champion in this division and test himself against the best. He did win against Pacquaio and it could trigger in him that he can go and fight the best, so the stage is set for him and Spence to dance in the middle of the ring. So it's not about bravery, it's about fighting the best in your division and see if he can come up with a victory and get all the belt.

He succeeded against Pacman but people still doubt him because Pacman had some excuse after the fight, so now is his chance to fight a healthy champion, a younger one and the top 3 in the pound for pound. So it's a big challenge, hopefully we will match up well with Spence.

People doubt about him because they see Erol Spence as more stronger fighter but we know how the under dog Ugas defeat Pacquaio and he's win is so impressive knowing that many people expect him to be defeated by the champ. But since he already prove that he has a guts to defeat the Pacquaio then most provably we can see a exciting match up for their fight with Spence Jr.

That's right, in fact, Spence is the heavy favorite to win, so it's really a big challenge for Ugas to proved that he belong to the conversation and he can be as good as Spence and Crawford, so a win here is going to be big for his career, he could take down Crawford next, imagine if that will happen.

He's value will rise and popularity will burst since imagine he defeated those fighters who already left strong mark in the industry. But for now Ugas should remain focus and study how Spence move the floor since this could give them better chances to defeat him. For sure this bout will be awaited by many fans not since many are curious to know if Ugas will dominate again after he won with Pacquaio.
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Winding down.
He already proved his worth as a boxer when he beats Pacquiao now he is going the extra mile buy fighting a very dangerous Spence, there are no thrash talks happening between the two they are both professional when they meet at a conference, so just over a week from now and we will see another hopefully a good fight, this is going to be a technical fight between the two as both fighters always sizing up their opponents.
Personally I like this, boxers try to hype the match by insulting each other and to me that is completely unnecessary, this is an unification fight, champion vs champion, I do not really need to know who is fighting for me to be interested in watching the fight as we are talking about the best of the best, so it is completely unnecessary to try pull some PR tricks to try to get more people interested in the fight as they will no make too much of a difference for those that truly love boxing of the highest level.
For us, it's not necessary but those who like to sell their fight and to make more money would certainly do a PR to the highest level. They are not just fighters, they are only marketing at the same time because their future depends on how they can sell fights, and if they can make a good revenue, then promoters would certainly be willing to promote more fights for them.
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