[Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 31.

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I could go with Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. if Spence wins against Yordenis Ugas we could see a potential Errol Spence Jr. VS Terrence Crawford fight, and that is what I want to see but he can not underestimate Yordenis Ugas, because Ugas can pull an upset just like he did with Manny Pacquiao, and it could be a Yordenis Ugas VS, Terrence Crawford, Surely Ugas can pull up a feat like that, but I really think that Errol Spence Jr, Can win this, and can still continue to be undisputed,

Yes, that was the fight that anyone is waiting for. Before it was between Pacquiao-Spence-Crawford but since Ugas comes out of nowhere, he replaced Pacquiao on that and some boxers think that upset is sure to happen.

If those boxers believe that Ugas can pull an upset, it means they really know Ugas has the firepower to beat the heavily favorite Spence Jr.

I also like to see Spence vs Crawford as it already waited for a long time but I'm also like Ugas to upset Spence. This was confusing on my part lol.

Many were expecting that Spence will win this fight but Ugas is somewhat stronger that could make such an upset end. It may, not be the most awaiting fight that people must have to see but this seems to be the ticket for the biggest fight in their weight level. But I believe that Ugas will still have the bigger chance over Spencer. I don't just look at their experience and reach advantage or even the age and height, but seeing their previous fight we can see that Ugas is getting tough.

I don't think Ugas is stronger than Spence, based on the record, Spence has the advantage. But I respect your opinion because we can never guarantee who will win in this fight even if the other fighter is the heavy favorite. Anyway, let's enjoy betting and be entertain while watching the fight soon.

So that's why this fight is very exciting, because we think that Spence will win, but at the same time Ugas might have something in him that can upset Spence. So for now, maybe in odds Spence is the favorite but Ugas could have the X-factor to pull a win.

So we will see if Ugas has what it takes to derail Spence in this fight. If he wins then maybe Crawford will be next on him. So a lot is on stakes for both fighters here.

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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.

Spence is not as active as Ugas, that's another thing to consider also although Spence is very good on paper we upset happen like what happened with the games between Ugas and Pacman. If the odds of Ugas will be so undervalued, then I might change my mind and will put my bet on Ugas, I'm sure he will not go down easily if he losses in the fight.

Ugas is undoubtedly one of the best boxers out there, and if he has more activity for now, which in boxing this is very beneficial, on the other hand Spence is not a boxer to measure in terms of a statistic as such, Spence has A lot of skill and his training is very hard, I know that Ugas has proven to be a very strong boxer, but with Spence I think things could change, if the fight were already, I don't know which way to lean, I think I still have many doubts.

There's still time left to analyze where you will lean. Both are champions, this fight is the battle of champions but only one will win. Ugas is definitely the most active but we know Spence is the most talented, so you need to choose based on that criteria, if you believe hard work beats talent then most likely Ugas will be the right bet.

You're right, what happens is that boxing is somewhat complicated in that sense, it's not like in football where there are players who are more talented and almost always get the victories, but in this case Spence can come very motivated as soon as what he is looking for, he wants to have again that fame that he should never have lost, on the other hand Ugas represents the desire and courage to get ahead and the only way is with victory over Spence.

It really is a very difficult bet for me, although there is still a long way to go, it is difficult for me to decide who to go with, doing an introspective analysis, I think that Ugas pro now sees himself as having more strengths.

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I could go with Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. if Spence wins against Yordenis Ugas we could see a potential Errol Spence Jr. VS Terrence Crawford fight, and that is what I want to see but he can not underestimate Yordenis Ugas, because Ugas can pull an upset just like he did with Manny Pacquiao, and it could be a Yordenis Ugas VS, Terrence Crawford, Surely Ugas can pull up a feat like that, but I really think that Errol Spence Jr, Can win this, and can still continue to be undisputed,

Yes, that was the fight that anyone is waiting for. Before it was between Pacquiao-Spence-Crawford but since Ugas comes out of nowhere, he replaced Pacquiao on that and some boxers think that upset is sure to happen.

If those boxers believe that Ugas can pull an upset, it means they really know Ugas has the firepower to beat the heavily favorite Spence Jr.

I also like to see Spence vs Crawford as it already waited for a long time but I'm also like Ugas to upset Spence. This was confusing on my part lol.

Many were expecting that Spence will win this fight but Ugas is somewhat stronger that could make such an upset end. It may, not be the most awaiting fight that people must have to see but this seems to be the ticket for the biggest fight in their weight level. But I believe that Ugas will still have the bigger chance over Spencer. I don't just look at their experience and reach advantage or even the age and height, but seeing their previous fight we can see that Ugas is getting tough.

I don't think Ugas is stronger than Spence, based on the record, Spence has the advantage. But I respect your opinion because we can never guarantee who will win in this fight even if the other fighter is the heavy favorite. Anyway, let's enjoy betting and be entertain while watching the fight soon.

There's only one way to find out who is the stronger fighter, and that is after this big fight. We cannot end this conversation about who si the stronger as both fighers are champion, they work hard to earn a title and they will work harder for this unification fight.

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I could go with Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. if Spence wins against Yordenis Ugas we could see a potential Errol Spence Jr. VS Terrence Crawford fight, and that is what I want to see but he can not underestimate Yordenis Ugas, because Ugas can pull an upset just like he did with Manny Pacquiao, and it could be a Yordenis Ugas VS, Terrence Crawford, Surely Ugas can pull up a feat like that, but I really think that Errol Spence Jr, Can win this, and can still continue to be undisputed,

Yes, that was the fight that anyone is waiting for. Before it was between Pacquiao-Spence-Crawford but since Ugas comes out of nowhere, he replaced Pacquiao on that and some boxers think that upset is sure to happen.

If those boxers believe that Ugas can pull an upset, it means they really know Ugas has the firepower to beat the heavily favorite Spence Jr.

I also like to see Spence vs Crawford as it already waited for a long time but I'm also like Ugas to upset Spence. This was confusing on my part lol.

Many were expecting that Spence will win this fight but Ugas is somewhat stronger that could make such an upset end. It may, not be the most awaiting fight that people must have to see but this seems to be the ticket for the biggest fight in their weight level. But I believe that Ugas will still have the bigger chance over Spencer. I don't just look at their experience and reach advantage or even the age and height, but seeing their previous fight we can see that Ugas is getting tough.

I don't think Ugas is stronger than Spence, based on the record, Spence has the advantage. But I respect your opinion because we can never guarantee who will win in this fight even if the other fighter is the heavy favorite. Anyway, let's enjoy betting and be entertain while watching the fight soon.

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I could go with Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. if Spence wins against Yordenis Ugas we could see a potential Errol Spence Jr. VS Terrence Crawford fight, and that is what I want to see but he can not underestimate Yordenis Ugas, because Ugas can pull an upset just like he did with Manny Pacquiao, and it could be a Yordenis Ugas VS, Terrence Crawford, Surely Ugas can pull up a feat like that, but I really think that Errol Spence Jr, Can win this, and can still continue to be undisputed,

Yes, that was the fight that anyone is waiting for. Before it was between Pacquiao-Spence-Crawford but since Ugas comes out of nowhere, he replaced Pacquiao on that and some boxers think that upset is sure to happen.

If those boxers believe that Ugas can pull an upset, it means they really know Ugas has the firepower to beat the heavily favorite Spence Jr.

I also like to see Spence vs Crawford as it already waited for a long time but I'm also like Ugas to upset Spence. This was confusing on my part lol.

Many were expecting that Spence will win this fight but Ugas is somewhat stronger that could make such an upset end. It may, not be the most awaiting fight that people must have to see but this seems to be the ticket for the biggest fight in their weight level. But I believe that Ugas will still have the bigger chance over Spencer. I don't just look at their experience and reach advantage or even the age and height, but seeing their previous fight we can see that Ugas is getting tough.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 17, 2022, 06:56:57 PM

I could go with Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. if Spence wins against Yordenis Ugas we could see a potential Errol Spence Jr. VS Terrence Crawford fight, and that is what I want to see but he can not underestimate Yordenis Ugas, because Ugas can pull an upset just like he did with Manny Pacquiao, and it could be a Yordenis Ugas VS, Terrence Crawford, Surely Ugas can pull up a feat like that, but I really think that Errol Spence Jr, Can win this, and can still continue to be undisputed,

Yes, that was the fight that anyone is waiting for. Before it was between Pacquiao-Spence-Crawford but since Ugas comes out of nowhere, he replaced Pacquiao on that and some boxers think that upset is sure to happen.

If those boxers believe that Ugas can pull an upset, it means they really know Ugas has the firepower to beat the heavily favorite Spence Jr.

I also like to see Spence vs Crawford as it already waited for a long time but I'm also like Ugas to upset Spence. This was confusing on my part lol.

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I could go with Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. if Spence wins against Yordenis Ugas we could see a potential Errol Spence Jr. VS Terrence Crawford fight, and that is what I want to see but he can not underestimate Yordenis Ugas, because Ugas can pull an upset just like he did with Manny Pacquiao, and it could be a Yordenis Ugas VS, Terrence Crawford, Surely Ugas can pull up a feat like that, but I really think that Errol Spence Jr, Can win this, and can still continue to be undisputed,

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Quote from: agustina2 on January 17, 2022, 06:54:09 PM

Not just a shockwave but too much heavy shockwave.

Ugas named just become popular to us when beat Manny but I'm sure before that, we don't even know him.

And the best opportunity comes to him and he won't take the chances to slip away easily.

I don't know about him as well but after that fight and an upset to Manny Pacquiao, pretty much he is now well known resulting for Manny Pacquiao to retire, and from that fight, there are videos where Manny Pacquiao can not open his eyes due to the beating he sustained and needs to be spoon-fed by his wife Junky Pacquiao and from that standpoint Spence should not underestimate Ugas, because his punch sure pack the power to done such thing.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 16, 2022, 01:45:28 AM

It will send another shockwave in the boxing community and in this division as everyone is jockeying for the position as the top dog. So if Ugas wins then definitely, he should be recognized as one of the best and he only have Crawford to defeat to claim the title of being the top 1 in the division.

Although Thurman is coming back, he doesn't have any belt so no bargaining power for him. He could fight Ugas but he should be the B-side then.

Not just a shockwave but too much heavy shockwave.

Ugas named just become popular to us when beat Manny but I'm sure before that, we don't even know him.

And the best opportunity comes to him and he won't take the chances to slip away easily.

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That's still a big "IF" Spence Jr. still have those support from both fans and sport bookies. I mean, yes, he will be the favorite here
after some time of rest due to his medical condition, now he's back and ready to defend his belt, great to see this kind of collations,
both fighters are title holders inside this division, a winner takes all fight.

We don't know if upset will happen, but if we will follow the hypes, more fans and gamblers will be eyeing for spence to win this one. Wink

Since Spence will be the sure Favorite on this match, I doubt gamblers will have a good profit if he wins unless they are willing to bet big just to feel the profits. In my own observation, Spence will be at @1.4 max or even lowered. On the other hand, betting on what rounds it will be settled is difficult too.

Let's see what will be our betting options once the fight got listed on our favorite sportsbook.

1.4 is considerable and below that odds wont really be that worthy to risk on and as said if you do have that big bet to feel those profits then its your choice but we know that everything could happen.

He might be the favorite but we dont know if the tables would turn upside down yet i do see some chances that Ugas could able to handle out Spence but of course in less chances.

I cant wait to see the odds though but expect it would be into those ranges.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 15, 2022, 05:56:41 PM

That's still a big "IF" Spence Jr. still have those support from both fans and sport bookies. I mean, yes, he will be the favorite here
after some time of rest due to his medical condition, now he's back and ready to defend his belt, great to see this kind of collations,
both fighters are title holders inside this division, a winner takes all fight.

We don't know if upset will happen, but if we will follow the hypes, more fans and gamblers will be eyeing for spence to win this one. Wink

Since Spence will be the sure Favorite on this match, I doubt gamblers will have a good profit if he wins unless they are willing to bet big just to feel the profits. In my own observation, Spence will be at @1.4 max or even lowered. On the other hand, betting on what rounds it will be settled is difficult too.

Let's see what will be our betting options once the fight got listed on our favorite sportsbook.

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Quote from: Viscore on January 17, 2022, 04:49:01 PM

There's no reason he will not be in the number 1 as he would be holding 2 belts that time. Crawford would surely be interested to fight Ugas as he would think he can beat Ugas since he beat the guy who beat Ugas, and that is Shawn Porter. If we see the fight of the best of the best, that would really be a big treat to the fans as we will see who will be the undisputed champion.

Honestly, whoever wins in this match will be a ticket to fight Crawford as he's the only remain who has a title at stake to unify. After the match, the negotiation to arrange the match with Crawford will surely commence right away. If there's no problem on the way, we can expect that fight to happen maybe around July-August at early.

Quote from: Silberman on January 17, 2022, 05:43:01 PM

so if you can get some decent odds for the upset then it may worth to put a small bet in favor of Ugas.

I'm really considering that based on the odds distribution. I will wait then.

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If in case, this will be another upset. That would be a terrible one for Spence Jr.
But in this fight, Spence Jr has a lot of advantages over Ugas.
This is why we are seeing that people are favoring Spence Jr over Ugas.
I believe even bookies will favor Spence here once they release the odds.
But would be interesting to watch as they fight for these unification belts.

Looking forward to that upset honestly

I mean, what will be the reaction of the boxing community if Ugas will able to upset the heavy favorite Spence Jr. It's a news that mostly won't be expected by anyone knowing Ugas is considered as a bonus round for Spence.

But the fact that Ugas defeated Pacquiao, I really considered it as a good achievement and not taking the reason that Pacquiao is already old. It's a bullsh*t reason for me that Ugas got that win because of that reason.

If Ugas were to win then he will turn the discussion around and people will think of him as one of the best if not the best of his division, after all when you have 3 belts then you have an argument to say that you are the best of your division, and however wins most likely will try to go for the undisputed so there is no doubt they are the best, but even then I think that Spence is the favorite to take the fight, so if you can get some decent odds for the upset then it may worth to put a small bet in favor of Ugas.

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Quote from: stadus on January 17, 2022, 04:34:09 PM

That will probably put Ugas at the top 1 as he will be holding multiple bet if he wins this fight. Crawford on the other hand would be happy as he only has to fight one fighter and will become a unified champion. Thurman is also willing to challenge the champion if he wins in his upcoming fight, so if Ugas will win here, he has a lot of option to fight with.

Talking about Thurman is way far, whoever win this fight will probably call for Crawford to unify all the belts from this division, it's Crawford who's waiting to whoever will win and challenge him, Though we are talking about upset but Spence Jr will surely give everything to win this fight, it so happened that there's concern with his medical condition it' s really great if that postponed fight with Pacquiao happened, lots of fans awaits but in some circumstances it was postponed.. Huh

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 15, 2022, 05:56:41 PM

If in case, this will be another upset. That would be a terrible one for Spence Jr.
But in this fight, Spence Jr has a lot of advantages over Ugas.
This is why we are seeing that people are favoring Spence Jr over Ugas.
I believe even bookies will favor Spence here once they release the odds.
But would be interesting to watch as they fight for these unification belts.

Looking forward to that upset honestly

I mean, what will be the reaction of the boxing community if Ugas will able to upset the heavy favorite Spence Jr. It's a news that mostly won't be expected by anyone knowing Ugas is considered as a bonus round for Spence.

But the fact that Ugas defeated Pacquiao, I really considered it as a good achievement and not taking the reason that Pacquiao is already old. It's a bullsh*t reason for me that Ugas got that win because of that reason.

It will send another shockwave in the boxing community and in this division as everyone is jockeying for the position as the top dog. So if Ugas wins then definitely, he should be recognized as one of the best and he only have Crawford to defeat to claim the title of being the top 1 in the division.

Although Thurman is coming back, he doesn't have any belt so no bargaining power for him. He could fight Ugas but he should be the B-side then.

That will probably put Ugas at the top 1 as he will be holding multiple bet if he wins this fight. Crawford on the other hand would be happy as he only has to fight one fighter and will become a unified champion. Thurman is also willing to challenge the champion if he wins in his upcoming fight, so if Ugas will win here, he has a lot of option to fight with.

There's no reason he will not be in the number 1 as he would be holding 2 belts that time. Crawford would surely be interested to fight Ugas as he would think he can beat Ugas since he beat the guy who beat Ugas, and that is Shawn Porter. If we see the fight of the best of the best, that would really be a big treat to the fans as we will see who will be the undisputed champion.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 16, 2022, 01:45:28 AM

Quote from: harizen on January 15, 2022, 06:45:05 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on January 15, 2022, 05:56:41 PM

If in case, this will be another upset. That would be a terrible one for Spence Jr.
But in this fight, Spence Jr has a lot of advantages over Ugas.
This is why we are seeing that people are favoring Spence Jr over Ugas.
I believe even bookies will favor Spence here once they release the odds.
But would be interesting to watch as they fight for these unification belts.

Looking forward to that upset honestly

I mean, what will be the reaction of the boxing community if Ugas will able to upset the heavy favorite Spence Jr. It's a news that mostly won't be expected by anyone knowing Ugas is considered as a bonus round for Spence.

But the fact that Ugas defeated Pacquiao, I really considered it as a good achievement and not taking the reason that Pacquiao is already old. It's a bullsh*t reason for me that Ugas got that win because of that reason.

It will send another shockwave in the boxing community and in this division as everyone is jockeying for the position as the top dog. So if Ugas wins then definitely, he should be recognized as one of the best and he only have Crawford to defeat to claim the title of being the top 1 in the division.

Although Thurman is coming back, he doesn't have any belt so no bargaining power for him. He could fight Ugas but he should be the B-side then.

That will probably put Ugas at the top 1 as he will be holding multiple bet if he wins this fight. Crawford on the other hand would be happy as he only has to fight one fighter and will become a unified champion. Thurman is also willing to challenge the champion if he wins in his upcoming fight, so if Ugas will win here, he has a lot of option to fight with.

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Quote from: harizen on January 15, 2022, 06:45:05 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on January 15, 2022, 05:56:41 PM

If in case, this will be another upset. That would be a terrible one for Spence Jr.
But in this fight, Spence Jr has a lot of advantages over Ugas.
This is why we are seeing that people are favoring Spence Jr over Ugas.
I believe even bookies will favor Spence here once they release the odds.
But would be interesting to watch as they fight for these unification belts.

Looking forward to that upset honestly

I mean, what will be the reaction of the boxing community if Ugas will able to upset the heavy favorite Spence Jr. It's a news that mostly won't be expected by anyone knowing Ugas is considered as a bonus round for Spence.

But the fact that Ugas defeated Pacquiao, I really considered it as a good achievement and not taking the reason that Pacquiao is already old. It's a bullsh*t reason for me that Ugas got that win because of that reason.

It will send another shockwave in the boxing community and in this division as everyone is jockeying for the position as the top dog. So if Ugas wins then definitely, he should be recognized as one of the best and he only have Crawford to defeat to claim the title of being the top 1 in the division.

Although Thurman is coming back, he doesn't have any belt so no bargaining power for him. He could fight Ugas but he should be the B-side then.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 15, 2022, 05:56:41 PM

If in case, this will be another upset. That would be a terrible one for Spence Jr.
But in this fight, Spence Jr has a lot of advantages over Ugas.
This is why we are seeing that people are favoring Spence Jr over Ugas.
I believe even bookies will favor Spence here once they release the odds.
But would be interesting to watch as they fight for these unification belts.

Looking forward to that upset honestly

I mean, what will be the reaction of the boxing community if Ugas will able to upset the heavy favorite Spence Jr. It's a news that mostly won't be expected by anyone knowing Ugas is considered as a bonus round for Spence.

But the fact that Ugas defeated Pacquiao, I really considered it as a good achievement and not taking the reason that Pacquiao is already old. It's a bullsh*t reason for me that Ugas got that win because of that reason.

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Quote from: agustina2 on January 15, 2022, 06:30:43 AM

But what if Ugas will win. It's a big upset.

Can't imagine for now that we will see a banner of Ugas vs Crawford as everybody is eyeing for Spence to win.

Ugas has to prove that, but for me, I think Ugas will lose because his style is easy to read. Since Spence is stronger and a heavy puncher than him, then I would expect that his defensive style of boxing will be broken down by the punches of Spence. Well, Spence losing the fight is also possible, but as long as it's a clean and entertaining fight, I would still be happy to see a Ugas vs Crawford duel in the future.

If in case, this will be another upset. That would be a terrible one for Spence Jr.
But in this fight, Spence Jr has a lot of advantages over Ugas.
This is why we are seeing that people are favoring Spence Jr over Ugas.
I believe even bookies will favor Spence here once they release the odds.
But would be interesting to watch as they fight for these unification belts.

That's still a big "IF" Spence Jr. still have those support from both fans and sport bookies. I mean, yes, he will be the favorite here
after some time of rest due to his medical condition, now he's back and ready to defend his belt, great to see this kind of collations,
both fighters are title holders inside this division, a winner takes all fight.

We don't know if upset will happen, but if we will follow the hypes, more fans and gamblers will be eyeing for spence to win this one. Wink

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 15, 2022, 03:22:39 PM

Quote from: agustina2 on January 15, 2022, 06:30:43 AM

But what if Ugas will win. It's a big upset.

Can't imagine for now that we will see a banner of Ugas vs Crawford as everybody is eyeing for Spence to win.

Ugas has to prove that, but for me, I think Ugas will lose because his style is easy to read. Since Spence is stronger and a heavy puncher than him, then I would expect that his defensive style of boxing will be broken down by the punches of Spence. Well, Spence losing the fight is also possible, but as long as it's a clean and entertaining fight, I would still be happy to see a Ugas vs Crawford duel in the future.

If in case, this will be another upset. That would be a terrible one for Spence Jr.
But in this fight, Spence Jr has a lot of advantages over Ugas.
This is why we are seeing that people are favoring Spence Jr over Ugas.
I believe even bookies will favor Spence here once they release the odds.
But would be interesting to watch as they fight for these unification belts.

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Quote from: agustina2 on January 15, 2022, 06:30:43 AM

But what if Ugas will win. It's a big upset.

Can't imagine for now that we will see a banner of Ugas vs Crawford as everybody is eyeing for Spence to win.

Ugas has to prove that, but for me, I think Ugas will lose because his style is easy to read. Since Spence is stronger and a heavy puncher than him, then I would expect that his defensive style of boxing will be broken down by the punches of Spence. Well, Spence losing the fight is also possible, but as long as it's a clean and entertaining fight, I would still be happy to see a Ugas vs Crawford duel in the future.

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