[Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 35.

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Quote from: Silberman on January 07, 2022, 01:15:23 PM

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There is a chance that Pacquiao will come back but how many percent is that "chance"? Less than 1%.

He isn't like Mayweather that will return to the ring after saying that he is retired just for money. I know that Manny will stand to what he said and he said that he will be retiring and he will just help younger boxers to improve. Another one is that, Pacquiao really is committed already to politics because he is helping the people for a long time already and for him he can help more people if he will be the President. Even though many are doubting about him and saying that he can't be the President for many reasons (including me), he did ran for President. Another one is if Pacquiao and Ugas will have a rematch, I don't think that Pacquiao can beat him since he past his prime already that's why he retired.

Spence is really a great boxer and I'm also thinking that he will KO Ugas in less than 10 rounds (my prediction) but it might be a hard fight I think.

Agreed, the career of Manny Pacquiao as a boxer is over, the guy does not seem like the kind of person that is going to return to boxing just to make some money, Manny loved to box and boxing gave everything it could to Manny, but his days are over and now he is concentrated in other aspects of his life like politics, and quite honestly I have no doubts that at some point in time he will become the president of Philippines, so lets hope he can do as good of a job as President of the country as he did as a boxer.

Not only he is busy but he already retired from Boxing. if Spence wins here, there's no reason for him to fight Pacman because he does not hold a belt anymore, the best thing he can do is to challenge Crawford and do a unification match, hope Crawford will also agree.

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Quote from: Jating on January 08, 2022, 09:52:25 AM

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Mikey Garcia share his thought about the fight. Clearly, he thinks Errol Spence has the advantage because of style but like Shawn Porter's own view regarding the fight, he also believes that Ugas has a chance to make an upset. That's how they looked at Ugas, unlike others that underestimated him.

These boxers know well each other and somehow I like to refer to their own view We will wait for some expert boxing analysis from popular ones then from there, let's compare their fearless forecast.

Errol Spence Jr has been warned his unification bout with Yordenis Ugas is a 'dangerous fight'.

I think everyone here thinks that Ugas has a good chance against Spence to pull an upset.

Not just because he won against Manny, but he has the physical specimen to do so, he is tall and has the reach advantage and I will say that he has a good boxing IQ as well as he is a Olympian so he is more adept on the styles. So let's see if Spence will have the tools and is 100% in this fight after his eye operation.

Losing Manny is a big break for Ugas and that’s why many started to expect big things from him which I think is fine. Most probably, Spence should be on a good health condition, he might not be able to fight Manny but be have the chance now to fight with Ugas who beat Manny for him. Well, this is more exciting any news about the final date of this Match?

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Quote from: harizen on January 08, 2022, 02:32:29 AM

Mikey Garcia share his thought about the fight. Clearly, he thinks Errol Spence has the advantage because of style but like Shawn Porter's own view regarding the fight, he also believes that Ugas has a chance to make an upset. That's how they looked at Ugas, unlike others that underestimated him.

These boxers know well each other and somehow I like to refer to their own view We will wait for some expert boxing analysis from popular ones then from there, let's compare their fearless forecast.

Errol Spence Jr has been warned his unification bout with Yordenis Ugas is a 'dangerous fight'.

I think everyone here thinks that Ugas has a good chance against Spence to pull an upset.

Not just because he won against Manny, but he has the physical specimen to do so, he is tall and has the reach advantage and I will say that he has a good boxing IQ as well as he is a Olympian so he is more adept on the styles. So let's see if Spence will have the tools and is 100% in this fight after his eye operation.

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Quote from: Masplanc on January 07, 2022, 04:01:26 PM

Spence is good fighter that has won so many fight, sometimes boxing match does not always favours the person one could think he has much experience. But I'm still sure that Spence will tough in the fight.

No, Spence will still be favored here although he rested for a while due to injury. Ugas may beat Pacman, but it was an old Pacman that he fought, Spence is different and he is also a champion that's why we have this unification fight where everything is at stake for both fighters.

Let's move on from that old Pacman that got beaten by Ugas. No reason, Ugas dominated Pacman and we can see that on the replay. It's so unfair for Ugas to be treated like that. What if Spence vs Pacquiao happened and Spence won, is old Pacman will still be the reason?

Spence will be the Favored in that match but not a sure win right away against Ugas. No one knows what will happen.

Yes, no one knows what will happen and no one even thinks that Ugas will win against Pacman but we are dead wrong. Moving on, Spence vs Ugas is a great fight because it's Ugas time to prove that he really dominated the fight when he beat Pacman, and not only because Pacman was not feeling comfortable in the fight, it's another opportunity for him now, so let's see if he can win.

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Mikey Garcia share his thought about the fight. Clearly, he thinks Errol Spence has the advantage because of style but like Shawn Porter's own view regarding the fight, he also believes that Ugas has a chance to make an upset. That's how they looked at Ugas, unlike others that underestimated him.

These boxers know well each other and somehow I like to refer to their own view We will wait for some expert boxing analysis from popular ones then from there, let's compare their fearless forecast.

Errol Spence Jr has been warned his unification bout with Yordenis Ugas is a 'dangerous fight'.

Some look at Ugas as dangerous fighter since many look at his past fight where he makes a huge win against Pacquaio and for sure he can also do the same with Spence Jr. I believe both of them will give us an exciting match so no wonder that this will be a bloody one knowing that both of them want to prove that they are strong also want to retain their current good records.

yes you are right that the last fight of Ugas against manny pacman pacquaio is a huge and he win that match. but In this fight against spence I don't think so Ugas can knockdown spence But I think he has a chance to win all he need is to develop his fighting skills and what he do to manny pacquaio. ugas must trained hard for this fight cause we all know that spence is not just easy opponent he has a standing of zero losses in his carreer so we can not predict this fight if who will win.

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Boxing fight is something different on it own, things change. Spence is a good fighter who has won many fights, their may be a tendency that ugas may be tough to him and would not give him the chance to win. Spence a strong fight and fast in body movement and ugas is a man that have been doing well too, to predict winner of this fight is hard.

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Quote from: harizen on January 08, 2022, 02:32:29 AM

Mikey Garcia share his thought about the fight. Clearly, he thinks Errol Spence has the advantage because of style but like Shawn Porter's own view regarding the fight, he also believes that Ugas has a chance to make an upset. That's how they looked at Ugas, unlike others that underestimated him.

These boxers know well each other and somehow I like to refer to their own view We will wait for some expert boxing analysis from popular ones then from there, let's compare their fearless forecast.

Errol Spence Jr has been warned his unification bout with Yordenis Ugas is a 'dangerous fight'.

Some look at Ugas as dangerous fighter since many look at his past fight where he makes a huge win against Pacquaio and for sure he can also do the same with Spence Jr. I believe both of them will give us an exciting match so no wonder that this will be a bloody one knowing that both of them want to prove that they are strong also want to retain their current good records.

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Mikey Garcia share his thought about the fight. Clearly, he thinks Errol Spence has the advantage because of style but like Shawn Porter's own view regarding the fight, he also believes that Ugas has a chance to make an upset. That's how they looked at Ugas, unlike others that underestimated him.

These boxers know well each other and somehow I like to refer to their own view We will wait for some expert boxing analysis from popular ones then from there, let's compare their fearless forecast.

Errol Spence Jr has been warned his unification bout with Yordenis Ugas is a 'dangerous fight'.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 07, 2022, 04:11:03 PM

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Spence is good fighter that has won so many fight, sometimes boxing match does not always favours the person one could think he has much experience. But I'm still sure that Spence will tough in the fight.

No, Spence will still be favored here although he rested for a while due to injury. Ugas may beat Pacman, but it was an old Pacman that he fought, Spence is different and he is also a champion that's why we have this unification fight where everything is at stake for both fighters.

Let's move on from that old Pacman that got beaten by Ugas. No reason, Ugas dominated Pacman and we can see that on the replay. It's so unfair for Ugas to be treated like that. What if Spence vs Pacquiao happened and Spence won, is old Pacman will still be the reason?

Spence will be the Favored in that match but not a sure win right away against Ugas. No one knows what will happen.

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Quote from: Masplanc on January 07, 2022, 04:01:26 PM

Spence is good fighter that has won so many fight, sometimes boxing match does not always favours the person one could think he has much experience. But I'm still sure that Spence will tough in the fight.

No, Spence will still be favored here although he rested for a while due to injury. Ugas may beat Pacman, but it was an old Pacman that he fought, Spence is different and he is also a champion that's why we have this unification fight where everything is at stake for both fighters.

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Spence is good fighter that has won so many fight, sometimes boxing match does not always favours the person one could think he has much experience. But I'm still sure that Spence will tough in the fight.

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Quote from: Silberman on January 07, 2022, 01:15:23 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 04, 2022, 02:01:57 AM

There is a chance that Pacquiao will come back but how many percent is that "chance"? Less than 1%.

He isn't like Mayweather that will return to the ring after saying that he is retired just for money. I know that Manny will stand to what he said and he said that he will be retiring and he will just help younger boxers to improve. Another one is that, Pacquiao really is committed already to politics because he is helping the people for a long time already and for him he can help more people if he will be the President. Even though many are doubting about him and saying that he can't be the President for many reasons (including me), he did ran for President. Another one is if Pacquiao and Ugas will have a rematch, I don't think that Pacquiao can beat him since he past his prime already that's why he retired.

Spence is really a great boxer and I'm also thinking that he will KO Ugas in less than 10 rounds (my prediction) but it might be a hard fight I think.

Agreed, the career of Manny Pacquiao as a boxer is over, the guy does not seem like the kind of person that is going to return to boxing just to make some money, Manny loved to box and boxing gave everything it could to Manny, but his days are over and now he is concentrated in other aspects of his life like politics, and quite honestly I have no doubts that at some point in time he will become the president of Philippines, so lets hope he can do as good of a job as President of the country as he did as a boxer.

We never know, what if he loses in the election and he spent a lot of money, I think he might try to come back to earn what he lost during the election. This is just a possibility but Manny for me is not yet done in boxing, he can still fight, he only resigned to focus his campaign on the Presidential election.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 04, 2022, 02:01:57 AM

There is a chance that Pacquiao will come back but how many percent is that "chance"? Less than 1%.

He isn't like Mayweather that will return to the ring after saying that he is retired just for money. I know that Manny will stand to what he said and he said that he will be retiring and he will just help younger boxers to improve. Another one is that, Pacquiao really is committed already to politics because he is helping the people for a long time already and for him he can help more people if he will be the President. Even though many are doubting about him and saying that he can't be the President for many reasons (including me), he did ran for President. Another one is if Pacquiao and Ugas will have a rematch, I don't think that Pacquiao can beat him since he past his prime already that's why he retired.

Spence is really a great boxer and I'm also thinking that he will KO Ugas in less than 10 rounds (my prediction) but it might be a hard fight I think.

Agreed, the career of Manny Pacquiao as a boxer is over, the guy does not seem like the kind of person that is going to return to boxing just to make some money, Manny loved to box and boxing gave everything it could to Manny, but his days are over and now he is concentrated in other aspects of his life like politics, and quite honestly I have no doubts that at some point in time he will become the president of Philippines, so lets hope he can do as good of a job as President of the country as he did as a boxer.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 04, 2022, 10:59:51 AM

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That's right, rather than thinking far into the future I'd rather he focus on the fight that will soon be fought.
Ugas is one of the boxers who in fact is now quite well known because as you said he managed to win against Many even though it was in that match that Many actually forced the fight and regardless of age Cheesy

on the other hand Ugas' current abilities were far from over and could not be compared to Spence's.
Spence is a boxer who is above Ugas in terms of strength, speed and IQ in the ring. If you really want to make a surprise, even if it's difficult, you have to be able to make the best of it, even though I feel that the possibility is almost non-existent

Everyone knows that Spence is better than Ugas.

When Pacman vs Spence fight was announced, Spence was the favorite to win, so in this fight, we already know who is the favorite to win although Ugas is more active and able to defend his title. It will be a war between Spence and we know that Spence will never beck down as he can grant his opponent's wish on the style of fight they want, just like against Porter, he also give a toe to toe fight.

the match between manny and spence now will not be possible because indeed we all know that manny is currently busy with his politics.
on the other hand in the match between ugas and spence actually because i don't really care about any statistics because i really believe in spence's current strength and maybe there won't even be a chance for ugas to win this match

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Errol Spence is undefeated while Ugas has four loses so it's understandable that people will put heavily their money on Spence.

I think that's A big advantage to Errol spence to get some bet for him cause he is undefeated and the mindset of the gamblers or people will choose him. We all know that Spence is a great boxer and very strategic fighter in terms of fighting. But I think Ugas has a plan and trained well for this in order to beat spence even if ugas has a four loss I think that's not the point that we declared he will loss this fight and for sure that they ugas will have a better moves and let's wait that day.

Obviously, Spence has the biggest advantage here but as a gambler, we don't just bet on who will win and just take the odds as obviously it's not so profitable when Spence is listed as the heavy favorite. The question here is, if the odds will be 1.20 for Spence, are you willing to risk $100 to win $20?

That's too small, right? and there's no guarantee that Spence will win so we are gambling on a small return.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 05, 2022, 03:47:53 AM

Errol Spence is undefeated while Ugas has four loses so it's understandable that people will put heavily their money on Spence.

I think that's A big advantage to Errol spence to get some bet for him cause he is undefeated and the mindset of the gamblers or people will choose him. We all know that Spence is a great boxer and very strategic fighter in terms of fighting. But I think Ugas has a plan and trained well for this in order to beat spence even if ugas has a four loss I think that's not the point that we declared he will loss this fight and for sure that they ugas will have a better moves and let's wait that day.

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Boxing analyst is more on potentials based from the characteristic of such fighter, they will give opinions based from past performance and base from the quality of skills the fighter have, with those analysis Spence gather people trust though it was Ugas who won much frequently and spence needs to rest because of his medical concern.

We can only conclude right after the fight, for now, more tough trainings in preparations on this fight.

Both Ugas and Spence need to undergo with trainings and sparrings... Roll Eyes

I agree, boxing analyst do based their predictions/speculations on upcoming fights with the history of the boxers involve and analyst do watched tons of boxing matches Grin

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With regards to Errol Spence and Yordenis Ugas, the former have the upper hand in terms of the quality of opponents faced in the square ring while Ugas have won the sweepstake of being the replacement fighter to Manny then beat the latter but that alone will not be enough to make him the favorite for this fight.

Errol Spence is undefeated while Ugas has four loses so it's understandable that people will put heavily their money on Spence.

That's expected but sometimes the favorites are overvalued because of his previous fights and people forgot who Ugas beat to become more popular. I mean, he surely has a great shot here as Spence although undefeated is not that dominant as a fighter, his last fight against Porter proved that.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 04, 2022, 08:40:04 PM

Boxing analyst is more on potentials based from the characteristic of such fighter, they will give opinions based from past performance and base from the quality of skills the fighter have, with those analysis Spence gather people trust though it was Ugas who won much frequently and spence needs to rest because of his medical concern.

We can only conclude right after the fight, for now, more tough trainings in preparations on this fight.

Both Ugas and Spence need to undergo with trainings and sparrings... Roll Eyes

I agree, boxing analyst do based their predictions/speculations on upcoming fights with the history of the boxers involve and analyst do watched tons of boxing matches Grin

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With regards to Errol Spence and Yordenis Ugas, the former have the upper hand in terms of the quality of opponents faced in the square ring while Ugas have won the sweepstake of being the replacement fighter to Manny then beat the latter but that alone will not be enough to make him the favorite for this fight.

Errol Spence is undefeated while Ugas has four loses so it's understandable that people will put heavily their money on Spence.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 04, 2022, 03:34:04 PM

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It's hard to imagine that Ugas will win here, if Spence is fully healthy, I think we are going to see a KO win from him as Ugas would only be a standing target since he cannot take advantage using his lenght like what he did on Pacquioa.

Well I think that many do not have very good expectations for Ugas, on the other hand with Spence I see that there are many beautiful hopes and they expect victory from him, of course waiting for him to achieve a KO would leave everyone with their mouths open, but I think that UGAS has considered this option and your preparation will be much tougher than before.

However, when reviewing some articles I see that they put Spence with more options to win over UGAS, the statistics in boxing are usually much more efficient than in any other sport, at least it is what I have seen due to my little experience.

Boxing analyst is more on potentials based from the characteristic of such fighter, they will give opinions based from past performance and base from the quality of skills the fighter have, with those analysis Spence gather people trust though it was Ugas who won much frequently and spence needs to rest because of his medical concern.

We can only conclude right after the fight, for now, more tough trainings in preparations on this fight.

Both Ugas and Spence need to undergo with trainings and sparrings... Roll Eyes

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Ugas won against Manny because he was able to maintain his distance against Manny. Of course Manny is not the old Manny anymore when they met. But credits to Ugas for the win. But in this fight against Spence Jr. I think Spence is a busy boxer. And he will probably outpoint Ugas.

Age finally caught with Pacquiao there's the news and it was confirmed that he suffered from leg cramps, making him hard to move and throw punches, Ugas is fighting a fighter who is at the prime of his career, who always dominate a fight, Ugas is a technical fighter in some ways but Spence is an all-around great boxer in the ring, like Crawford he is flawless, after the match I see Spence winning another version of the welterweight.

Yes. I remember that fight. In the second round. He was over worked, instead of the rest 3days left supposed to be his rest and conditioning, he was pushed to work for training against an orthodox fighter. If it was Spence better bcoanhis 2 mos. training was for only and just for Spence, and for sure Spence will got his 1st lost via KO if ever. Now if there will be a rematch for Ugas and Pacquiao then you will see a 100% Pacquiao knocking out Ugas compare to a 30% Pacquiao in the previous match bcos of his stiffening legs.

Forget about Manny Pacquiao beating Ugas. There will never be a 100% Pacquiao anymore. Pacquiao is old. He has retired. Of course there is still a possibility that he will come back and fight just like what he did before, but it will never be a 100% Pacquiao. For one, he has already gotten his feet deeply in politics. That must take a lot of focus and attention from him. And of course there's the age factor. Training cannot make up for them so there's no more 100% Pacquiao.

I doubt Spence will win by KO on this one.

There is a chance that Pacquiao will come back but how many percent is that "chance"? Less than 1%.

He isn't like Mayweather that will return to the ring after saying that he is retired just for money. I know that Manny will stand to what he said and he said that he will be retiring and he will just help younger boxers to improve. Another one is that, Pacquiao really is committed already to politics because he is helping the people for a long time already and for him he can help more people if he will be the President. Even though many are doubting about him and saying that he can't be the President for many reasons (including me), he did ran for President. Another one is if Pacquiao and Ugas will have a rematch, I don't think that Pacquiao can beat him since he past his prime already that's why he retired.

Spence is really a great boxer and I'm also thinking that he will KO Ugas in less than 10 rounds (my prediction) but it might be a hard fight I think.

No, you are wrong. Manny Pacquiao had made announcements of his retirement many times in the past. They didn't happen. It happened once after winning against Bradley. He retired that time. But then he ended up boxing again. He even mentioned about focusing only on politics as he got such instruction from god but even that was only hollow words as he still fought later on. So I don't think it is less than 1% that Manny will fight once more. Especially if he is spending too much money in his presidential bid now and lost.

Quote from: YOSHIE on January 04, 2022, 02:45:21 AM

When it comes to Spence vs. Ugas, I have strong belief Ugas can win boxing this year, there is a reason I can say Ugas can beat Spence, my strong reasons are: the accident that happened to Spence, it could be a good point for Ugas to take a chance in boxing this time, as far as I know Spence has an eye injury for now.

That eye injury shouldn't even be a factor in this fight anymore. I don't think it will have an effect. Spence has already gotten a clearance from his doctor. That means he is 100% fit to fight Ugas. I still think the volume puncher in Spence will outpoint the technical Ugas.

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