Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman - page 41.

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Cemented their legacy? Nah! IMO, you can't have your legacy cemented until you fight the best of the best in your division.
When or lose, as long as you don't turn down any opponent, that for me is the true legacy.
They are just protecting their precious records. They wanna be like Mayweather. Well, if this fight between them won't happen, it will for sure hunt them for the rest of their lives. Either of them are not worthy to be called the best in their generation.

I do agree, although there could have been fights that both of them could have missed, but they really need each other at this point. Just like what Manny and Floyd did, although the fight is kinda late in their career, but at least we have seen them fight.

And they are in the premier division, and the lineage of this division goes down deep, specially in the 80's wherein we see great fights.

It looks like their camp is evading each other because they are unsure of the result. Besides, there are other boxer that can be an option that is still profitable even though the excitement won't bring the same excitement if these two boxers meet. My guess, we have to wait until these two boxers are past their prime before their camp agrees to a fight deal.

Quote from: Baofeng on November 18, 2022, 04:36:50 AM

Anyhow, Spence is on a tough fight here, specially if a different version of Thurman shows, a hungry lion like he was still the champion in this division.

I agree, Thurman is still at his prime, and he already had a warm-up fight so I guess Thurman is already back on track. It will be interesting how Spence will deal with the hungry lion, he should be hungrier to beat Thurman in their match since the fight can go either way. The one who wanted the belt more will surely win.

As per Spence this is his reason for not wanting to give Thurman a fight:

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Spence has been steadfast that he would never give Thurman a shot at his three titles because Thurman showed no interest in fighting him years ago.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/34989884/errol-spence-ordered-defend-wbc-title-keith-thurman

It could be, but I'm seeing that Spence could be in trouble here. Although Thurman is somewhat inactive, but I reckon his power is still there. And as Rolly Romero says, he can still crack and Spence might be after that he will be crack this time.

So will see, I have high regards still that Thurman will give Spence the toughest test of his career if Keith will just focus and be motivated as before.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 18, 2022, 04:36:50 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 18, 2022, 04:10:01 AM

Cemented their legacy? Nah! IMO, you can't have your legacy cemented until you fight the best of the best in your division.
When or lose, as long as you don't turn down any opponent, that for me is the true legacy.
They are just protecting their precious records. They wanna be like Mayweather. Well, if this fight between them won't happen, it will for sure hunt them for the rest of their lives. Either of them are not worthy to be called the best in their generation.

I do agree, although there could have been fights that both of them could have missed, but they really need each other at this point. Just like what Manny and Floyd did, although the fight is kinda late in their career, but at least we have seen them fight.

And they are in the premier division, and the lineage of this division goes down deep, specially in the 80's wherein we see great fights.

It looks like their camp is evading each other because they are unsure of the result. Besides, there are other boxer that can be an option that is still profitable even though the excitement won't bring the same excitement if these two boxers meet. My guess, we have to wait until these two boxers are past their prime before their camp agrees to a fight deal.

Quote from: Baofeng on November 18, 2022, 04:36:50 AM

Anyhow, Spence is on a tough fight here, specially if a different version of Thurman shows, a hungry lion like he was still the champion in this division.

I agree, Thurman is still at his prime, and he already had a warm-up fight so I guess Thurman is already back on track. It will be interesting how Spence will deal with the hungry lion, he should be hungrier to beat Thurman in their match since the fight can go either way. The one who wanted the belt more will surely win.

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Quote from: boyptc on November 17, 2022, 04:24:45 PM

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You know what I'll wait on this match? And that is the hype of Thurman and that's the same thing that he has done when he was against Pacman.

It'll bring more hype to this match if he'll do the same marketing as those words that he has said on how confident he is to beat Spence on defending his title.

And when this match is done, is there still possibility that Spence will fight Crawford?

Yes, I think Thurman has still the hype behind his name, although his performance against Barrios is a lot to be question because Barrios is not a legitimate welterweight and he chooses him as his comeback fight. Obviously, he won and then he went on another hiatus.

But this time, for sure Thurman will hype this fight like he did against Manny Pacquiao. He is also a gifted "talker". So who knows, maybe he will sell this fight through his mouth again.

Forget about Spence vs Crawford.

He's a good PR person and that's on his blood already.

The diversion of attention of the fans are now on this match. Okay, there's no more Spence and Crawford because of this match and that's why schedules and deals won't be possible anymore.

Both has good set of records, as Thurman's performance isn't convincing against Barrios. Maybe this time, he'll retrieve himself and will show the expected Thurman that everyone wants.

I'm also expecting that it will be a different Thurman because he will be fighting a champion, who has a 3 belt right now. And Spence is not going to back down from any trash talk, but not sure why there are news that he didn't want to fight Thurman, or at least that's what Crawford is trying to say.

Yes, we no longer interested as of this time to a Spence vs Crawford.

We are now focused on this fight, as we have a lot of very intriguing and interesting fight in the calendar.

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The diversion of attention of the fans are now on this match. Okay, there's no more Spence and Crawford because of this match and that's why schedules and deals won't be possible anymore.

Both has good set of records, as Thurman's performance isn't convincing against Barrios. Maybe this time, he'll retrieve himself and will show the expected Thurman that everyone wants.

For now we will not see a mega fight between Spence and Crawford, but once they both win in their respective fights, for sure the hype will be up again as the fans would always want to witness a big fight which is the undisputed fight between them.

We will see if there's still the interest from the crowd for that fight. Because it's most likely that the match is hard to be seen when there's another fight that has got scheduled for each of them.

I've seen this with other fighters that have a noise because they're likely the ones to fight but then, it didn't happen because of each of them have to fight other fighters too and needed to defend the title.

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This one is a better fight for Spence, hopefully he is not thinking that he can easily beat Thurman because I'm sure he is wrong since Thurman is a tough challenger. I like Thurman here to win, I'm sure the odds will be very attractive, though I think he will only be a slight underdog but I'm hoping bookies will put him as heavy underdog just for better odds.

I also like Thurman getting an upset win so the Crawford- Spence will push because now Spence will be the one to go after Crawford instead of the other way around, Spence right now thinks he is the A fighter between the two of them so if Thurman wins the level is even, but this is wishful thinking as we all know Spence is a superior fighter than Thurman, the reality is both Crawford and Spence will eventually win and history will repeat itself between the two and they will dare one another to sign the deal.

The fight you are expecting is not going to happen if Spence will lose this fight. Crawford will just seek a better opponent and that is not him, maybe a Thurman fight will be witnessed if Thurman will win here, so let's hope that it will happen. At least this fight is not 100% one sided, we have boxing fans who still believe that Thurman can still be a champion.

I also doubt Thurman will win against Spence. He'd been ducking to fight Spence for years asking an incredible pay. He is in decline for years but the fight may last 12 rounds since he has a good tank. Somehow he was given a shot after defeating Barios.

Crawford vs Spence is not happening, Crawford is now on a different network, and negotiation is off.

Well, let's just see in the actual fight. I know most of us to believe that Spence will win but I would love to join the minority who believes that Thurman can win via upset here. I tried to check on the betting odds to know how the bookies sees this fight but it seems no sportsbook had an odds on this yet.

There's no odds yet and maybe it's because the Thurman-Spence fight is still under finalization like the date and place because the last update was this was an order by the WBC. Aside from that, Al Haymon and Spence are still discussing some things because it was said that Spence is not giving Thurman a chance to have his shot on Spence's 3 titles and will only offer the WBC belt. We will likely hear some final details soon.

This is a good matchup against Spence because the bleeding fight between spence and Crawford will not come for this time then it's a good option for the team since to fight against thurman as we all know how thurman good in terms of his fighting skills and technique so we can see a close fight from thesee two fighter in the final date fight. And in this fight because there's no odds I think spence will be the favorite here.

I hope this will fight will be finalized soon enough so that the waiting time will be shorter and I think it won't be that long to settle this because both of them have just got out from their fights this year, so maybe by February or March will already see this epic fight.

This is still better than nothing because just like you've said, we haven't got that Spence-Crawford fight that we are expecting for months. Let's just be optimistic that there will be a time in the future that they will meet without struggles.

Hoping too that this fight will arrange as soon as possible because I know many people are waiting for this fight. Spence is undefeated in while thurman has 1 loss so without a doubt this is a good fight because we all know that thurman want to win against spence in order to be champion once again. But since will do his best to protect his title and record because he has a record of no loss so what we want to see this fight is a most defensive skills by Spence.

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