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November 14, 2022, 07:12:47 AM
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Thurman is a real challenge for Spence but when it comes down to skill Spence can deliver he is an A1 in his division no one can deny that claim I don't see Thurman beating Spence but I don't see Thurman getting knocked out by Spence too, Thurman's defense and stamina is still good compared to other fighters Spence fought, Spence is likely to win by unanimous decision, he is a very dominant fighter, very technical and likes to wait, expose his opponent's weakness and exploit it.
This fight is worth watching than the Crawford - Avanesyan fight which is going to be an easy fight for Crawford.

This is actually a good fight for Spence because there is no other contender in this division that is capable of beating him in his current prime I'm sure Thurman is happy to be given such kind of opportunity and I can't wait for Thurman to trash talk him once they promote this fight. This will be an exciting fight than Crawford has because he is fighting nobody while Spence right here will gonna fight a boxer that will gonna give him hard times inside the ring. It's just a matter of time before Spence can gauge well how to stop Thurman but until then he will gonna practice well because he is not sure how Thurman prepared for this fight.
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November 13, 2022, 10:13:40 PM
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Whether he is active with his training is out of our knowledge since there is no news that Thurman is still on training even though he is in idle status but I am sure that Thurman had started his training when the fight between him and Barrios was sealed.  Thurman is still sharp on his fight against Barrios, he dominates the Barrios even though Barrios is the bigger and looks more solid fighter.

So I think we shouldn't jump into a conclusion that Thurman doesn't pose a threat as other boxers.

Thurman is a real challenge for Spence but when it comes down to skill Spence can deliver he is an A1 in his division no one can deny that claim I don't see Thurman beating Spence but I don't see Thurman getting knocked out by Spence too, Thurman's defense and stamina is still good compared to other fighters Spence fought, Spence is likely to win by unanimous decision, he is a very dominant fighter, very technical and likes to wait, expose his opponent's weakness and exploit it.
This fight is worth watching than the Crawford - Avanesyan fight which is going to be an easy fight for Crawford.

Thurman though has a history of gassing out in later rounds as he usually faded. And if Spence is going to target his body which is his weakest, then for sure Spence could be the first out to knock out Thurman here.

For me, ever since that Pacquiao lost, he is a different boxer already, that mentality of him goes down. And i think his stamina will be in question here.

Spence is a different boxer, if he sense that his opponent in fading in the late round he might go and look for a knockout.
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November 13, 2022, 05:44:39 PM
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Whether he is active with his training is out of our knowledge since there is no news that Thurman is still on training even though he is in idle status but I am sure that Thurman had started his training when the fight between him and Barrios was sealed.  Thurman is still sharp on his fight against Barrios, he dominates the Barrios even though Barrios is the bigger and looks more solid fighter.

So I think we shouldn't jump into a conclusion that Thurman doesn't pose a threat as other boxers.

Thurman is a real challenge for Spence but when it comes down to skill Spence can deliver he is an A1 in his division no one can deny that claim I don't see Thurman beating Spence but I don't see Thurman getting knocked out by Spence too, Thurman's defense and stamina is still good compared to other fighters Spence fought, Spence is likely to win by unanimous decision, he is a very dominant fighter, very technical and likes to wait, expose his opponent's weakness and exploit it.
This fight is worth watching than the Crawford - Avanesyan fight which is going to be an easy fight for Crawford.
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November 13, 2022, 04:14:36 PM
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If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

Whether he is active with his training is out of our knowledge since there is no news that Thurman is still on training even though he is in idle status but I am sure that Thurman had started his training when the fight between him and Barrios was sealed.  Thurman is still sharp on his fight against Barrios, he dominates the Barrios even though Barrios is the bigger and looks more solid fighter.

So I think we shouldn't jump into a conclusion that Thurman doesn't pose a threat as other boxers.
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November 13, 2022, 04:12:18 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

Usually boxers wanted to keep themselves fit even if they are not fighting. Chances are Thurman might be very active in the background, maybe he is expecting that he might go and fight for this year again.

Nevertheless, ring rust will be a major problem for him. And he is not facing a B fighter here, or an old legendary, this is prime boxers, haven't seen a lost. So it will be a hard fight for him and I will agree that his chances might be slim against the version of Errol Spence.

He's expecting a fight so most provably he prepare his self for that and I don't think there's a ring rust for him since he really want to have a come back on big scene. This is his chance to make his name create a noise so if he win against Spence then he can get all the glory and for sure get another big fight after this.

But if he lost to Spence then maybe this is a sign that he should retire because maybe he cannot get good matches after a defeat.

It was evident in the Manny Pacquiao fight though, Thurman might be suffering from ring rust as Manny took advantage and knock him out early. He tried to rally late in the rounds though, but was not enough.

For the Barrios fight, Barrios is not a true welterweight and so the ring rust didn't show as much as in the Pacquiao fight.

He might keep himself active, but it's very different when it is a the actual fight, him and Spence inside the ring, there could be jitters and bugs on the two boxers. But the first one that can settle down a bit could dictate the fight.
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November 13, 2022, 03:47:50 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

Usually boxers wanted to keep themselves fit even if they are not fighting. Chances are Thurman might be very active in the background, maybe he is expecting that he might go and fight for this year again.

Nevertheless, ring rust will be a major problem for him. And he is not facing a B fighter here, or an old legendary, this is prime boxers, haven't seen a lost. So it will be a hard fight for him and I will agree that his chances might be slim against the version of Errol Spence.

He's expecting a fight so most provably he prepare his self for that and I don't think there's a ring rust for him since he really want to have a come back on big scene. This is his chance to make his name create a noise so if he win against Spence then he can get all the glory and for sure get another big fight after this.

But if he lost to Spence then maybe this is a sign that he should retire because maybe he cannot get good matches after a defeat.
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November 13, 2022, 03:36:59 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

Usually boxers wanted to keep themselves fit even if they are not fighting. Chances are Thurman might be very active in the background, maybe he is expecting that he might go and fight for this year again.

Nevertheless, ring rust will be a major problem for him. And he is not facing a B fighter here, or an old legendary, this is prime boxers, haven't seen a lost. So it will be a hard fight for him and I will agree that his chances might be slim against the version of Errol Spence.
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November 13, 2022, 03:15:41 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.
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November 13, 2022, 03:01:59 PM
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Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.

True that one loss does not make Thurman a bad boxer, but the thing is Thurman become idle for a long time, so many thinks that somehow Thurman's skill is a bit rusty even though he performed well in his last fight.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman.

I think this is a mandatory fight commissioned by the WBA council (if I am not mistaken)  So the possibility of the fight to push through is huge.

Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

Well we never know, Thurman has also that punching power to KO his opponent. besides his only loss is from the legendary boxer.
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November 13, 2022, 12:49:02 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.
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November 13, 2022, 11:25:16 AM
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Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.

Yes, we seen it from his last fight when he made his comeback, the fighting form still good and the speed he still got it. A matter on what preparation he will take and how he will take his chance from the defending champ, if the fight happened fans will see how both fighters will bring everything on the ring.

Still favoring the belt holder for sure, but for the risk takers Thurman is something that they can give a good try for much higher ML odd.
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November 13, 2022, 09:06:17 AM
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Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.
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November 12, 2022, 04:45:39 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

He is undefeated when he face Manny and was the champion, so yes there are a lot of experience under his belt. But that was his comeback fight coming from a injury. He was knock down early try to make a comeback against Manny but he fell short on the judges scorecard.

Manny just got lucky in their fight, Manny made a statement on early round by knocking down Thurman which made Thurman a bit weary and take cautious in the following round.  If the knockdown didn't happen, I think Manny will lost that fight.

However, after that defeat, he wasn't the same, he took a break, so yeah he become idle, and then chooses an easy fight in this comeback as he fought Barios who is coming up in the welterweight division. But even if Thurman has the experience, I think Errol Spence is going to beat him.

Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.
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November 12, 2022, 03:36:15 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

He is undefeated when he face Manny and was the champion, so yes there are a lot of experience under his belt. But that was his comeback fight coming from a injury. He was knock down early try to make a comeback against Manny but he fell short on the judges scorecard.

However, after that defeat, he wasn't the same, he took a break, so yeah he become idle, and then chooses an easy fight in this comeback as he fought Barios who is coming up in the welterweight division. But even if Thurman has the experience, I think Errol Spence is going to beat him.
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November 12, 2022, 01:10:24 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them.

You said it right, he almost win that fight if not for the early knock down which gave Pacquiao a good advanatage, but he manage to fight back and win the remaining rounds, just so happened that knock down really give weight when making a decision, Thurman have a good shot in giving Spence Jr a tough job if ever these fight take place.

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Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated.

Being the title holder gives him the favorite, though he also have the best credentials as he don't have any loss in his entire career.

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Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If money talks louder than the amount that both camps wanted to take, expect negotiations will take place between these two camps.
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November 12, 2022, 11:50:40 AM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.
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November 12, 2022, 11:33:14 AM
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This one is a better fight for Spence, hopefully he is not thinking that he can easily beat Thurman because I'm sure he is wrong since Thurman is a tough challenger. I like Thurman here to win, I'm sure the odds will be very attractive, though I think he will only be a slight underdog but I'm hoping bookies will put him as heavy underdog just for better odds.

I also like Thurman getting an upset win so the Crawford- Spence will push because now Spence will be the one to go after Crawford instead of the other way around, Spence right now thinks he is the A fighter between the two of them so if Thurman wins the level is even, but this is wishful thinking as we all know Spence is a superior fighter than Thurman, the reality is both Crawford and Spence will eventually win and history will repeat itself between the two and they will dare one another to sign the deal.

The fight you are expecting is not going to happen if Spence will lose this fight. Crawford will just seek a better opponent and that is not him, maybe a Thurman fight will be witnessed if Thurman will win here, so let's hope that it will happen. At least this fight is not 100% one sided, we have boxing fans who still believe that Thurman can still be a champion.

I also doubt Thurman will win against Spence. He'd been ducking to fight Spence for years asking an incredible pay. He is in decline for years but the fight may last 12 rounds since he has a good tank. Somehow he was given a shot after defeating Barios.

Crawford vs Spence is not happening, Crawford is now on a different network, and negotiation is off.

Well, let's just see in the actual fight. I know most of us to believe that Spence will win but I would love to join the minority who believes that Thurman can win via upset here. I tried to check on the betting odds to know how the bookies sees this fight but it seems no sportsbook had an odds on this yet.



There's no odds yet and maybe it's because the Thurman-Spence fight is still under finalization like the date and place because the last update was this was an order by the WBC. Aside from that, Al Haymon and Spence are still discussing some things because it was said that Spence is not giving Thurman a chance to have his shot on Spence's 3 titles and will only offer the WBC belt. We will likely hear some final details soon.

This is a good matchup against Spence because the bleeding fight between spence and Crawford will not come for this time then it's a good option for the team since to fight against thurman as we all know how thurman good in terms of his fighting skills and technique so we can see a close fight from thesee two fighter in the final date fight. And in this fight because there's no odds I think spence will be the favorite here.
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November 12, 2022, 11:17:57 AM
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This one is a better fight for Spence, hopefully he is not thinking that he can easily beat Thurman because I'm sure he is wrong since Thurman is a tough challenger. I like Thurman here to win, I'm sure the odds will be very attractive, though I think he will only be a slight underdog but I'm hoping bookies will put him as heavy underdog just for better odds.

I also like Thurman getting an upset win so the Crawford- Spence will push because now Spence will be the one to go after Crawford instead of the other way around, Spence right now thinks he is the A fighter between the two of them so if Thurman wins the level is even, but this is wishful thinking as we all know Spence is a superior fighter than Thurman, the reality is both Crawford and Spence will eventually win and history will repeat itself between the two and they will dare one another to sign the deal.

The fight you are expecting is not going to happen if Spence will lose this fight. Crawford will just seek a better opponent and that is not him, maybe a Thurman fight will be witnessed if Thurman will win here, so let's hope that it will happen. At least this fight is not 100% one sided, we have boxing fans who still believe that Thurman can still be a champion.

I also doubt Thurman will win against Spence. He'd been ducking to fight Spence for years asking an incredible pay. He is in decline for years but the fight may last 12 rounds since he has a good tank. Somehow he was given a shot after defeating Barios.

Crawford vs Spence is not happening, Crawford is now on a different network, and negotiation is off.

Well, let's just see in the actual fight. I know most of us to believe that Spence will win but I would love to join the minority who believes that Thurman can win via upset here. I tried to check on the betting odds to know how the bookies sees this fight but it seems no sportsbook had an odds on this yet.



There's no odds yet and maybe it's because the Thurman-Spence fight is still under finalization like the date and place because the last update was this was an order by the WBC. Aside from that, Al Haymon and Spence are still discussing some things because it was said that Spence is not giving Thurman a chance to have his shot on Spence's 3 titles and will only offer the WBC belt. We will likely hear some final details soon.
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November 12, 2022, 01:54:48 AM
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Yes, I think so too, Spence is superior to Thurman in my opinion.
But while Thurman may not be at his best due to being inactive for a long time, but he's also a smart fighter and still has strength.
We can only speculate, all that we can only see if they are really in the ring.
If Thurman prepares well I think he might still be a threat to Spence.
He have recent fight against Mario Barrios on Feb 5, 2022, which I think he's not inactive for a long time. I don't think Thurman prime is already passed, his performance is still same and he's currently still 33 years old. Well at least Spence will fight against better boxer than Crawford who will fight Avanesyan, which everyone already know Crawford will win via KO again.

Thurman wouldn't be easy to get Knocked Out, he may lose via unanimous decision, the best he may win via split decision.
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November 11, 2022, 12:34:16 PM
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It was said that Stanionis and Ennis will be among the undercard, they will definitely be watching who deserves to fight Spence when he wins against Thurman.

Terrence is to fight Avanesyan by Dec this year. You can view this as a tuneup fight but the organization may also want to confirm if Terrence still has the punching power to defeat Spence. If it's the case, we'll not see Spence vs Crawford until he's near 40.



Oh, yeah? Then that's much better because both Ennis and Spence's side will see what they're made of and considering Ennis on paper and performance, he's the type of boxer that shouldn't be messed around because I heard he's touted as the next Terence Crawford and I don't doubt that at all. As for this fight, Spence should have no problem in defeating Thurman, not underestimating him but we already saw Thurman's limit. Hopefully we could see a much more interesting fight in welterweight next.
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