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December 05, 2022, 05:04:25 PM
So just have to patience when the official news will be released, obviously it will be next year so we already have a good calendar schedule for the month of January already. Probably this will be in the first quarter of 2023.

Boxing fans can wait because we are guaranteed that this fight is gonna happen, the word "mandatory" is the one that guarantees us we will see the fight. We can't talk about Spence vs Crawford now as Spence has Thurman in front of him that could steal his belt if he will not give his best.

More time to practice for these two great boxers if it will happen on March 2023, so they'll be 100% (hopefully with no injury).

Yes, it is somehow guaranteed because the boxer don't have any much of an option when the sanctioning bodies give them mandatory fights and the only thing that will make this fight cancel if one of the boxers will reject the fight. In this case, Thurman is eager while might be thinking about it because it looks like he still holds grudge against Thurman for what he did years back. Nonetheless, this fight getting cancelled is unlikely to happen because both boxers came from the same stable and Spence, the champion, cannot afford to lose his belts.

If in terms of keeping the belt, I will agree that Spence will defend his title, it's a mandatory fight that he need to agree or else the belt will be strip and be rewarded to Thurman, who's really eager to have and regain his name, it's interesting because both fighters are good both in defense and offense they are both have the capabilities to throw solid punches, we will wait if upset may happen or Spence will be more prepared and aggressive to bring Thurman down.

All can be decided or concluded once both are inside the same ring and throwing hard combinations to win the fight.

It's not easy as that, even if Spence is stripped by his belt, it will not be simply awarded to Thurman. Maybe Thurman will have a chance to fight maybe the next rank fighter for the belt, but the organization will mandate that fight like what they ordered Spence here.

So this fight has to be made, we fans have already deprived by the best fight in this division. And I think this is the second best fight so hopefully there will be no delays or postponement since there are no stumbling block between the two fighters, except if one doesn't want to fight the other but this two are warriors so I doubt that will be the reason if ever this fight is not going to happen.
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December 05, 2022, 04:14:18 PM
So just have to patience when the official news will be released, obviously it will be next year so we already have a good calendar schedule for the month of January already. Probably this will be in the first quarter of 2023.

Boxing fans can wait because we are guaranteed that this fight is gonna happen, the word "mandatory" is the one that guarantees us we will see the fight. We can't talk about Spence vs Crawford now as Spence has Thurman in front of him that could steal his belt if he will not give his best.

More time to practice for these two great boxers if it will happen on March 2023, so they'll be 100% (hopefully with no injury).

Yes, it is somehow guaranteed because the boxer don't have any much of an option when the sanctioning bodies give them mandatory fights and the only thing that will make this fight cancel if one of the boxers will reject the fight. In this case, Thurman is eager while might be thinking about it because it looks like he still holds grudge against Thurman for what he did years back. Nonetheless, this fight getting cancelled is unlikely to happen because both boxers came from the same stable and Spence, the champion, cannot afford to lose his belts.

If in terms of keeping the belt, I will agree that Spence will defend his title, it's a mandatory fight that he need to agree or else the belt will be strip and be rewarded to Thurman, who's really eager to have and regain his name, it's interesting because both fighters are good both in defense and offense they are both have the capabilities to throw solid punches, we will wait if upset may happen or Spence will be more prepared and aggressive to bring Thurman down.

All can be decided or concluded once both are inside the same ring and throwing hard combinations to win the fight.

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December 05, 2022, 02:25:44 PM
So just have to patience when the official news will be released, obviously it will be next year so we already have a good calendar schedule for the month of January already. Probably this will be in the first quarter of 2023.

Boxing fans can wait because we are guaranteed that this fight is gonna happen, the word "mandatory" is the one that guarantees us we will see the fight. We can't talk about Spence vs Crawford now as Spence has Thurman in front of him that could steal his belt if he will not give his best.

More time to practice for these two great boxers if it will happen on March 2023, so they'll be 100% (hopefully with no injury).

Yes, it is somehow guaranteed because the boxer don't have any much of an option when the sanctioning bodies give them mandatory fights and the only thing that will make this fight cancel if one of the boxers will reject the fight. In this case, Thurman is eager while might be thinking about it because it looks like he still holds grudge against Thurman for what he did years back. Nonetheless, this fight getting cancelled is unlikely to happen because both boxers came from the same stable and Spence, the champion, cannot afford to lose his belts.
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December 05, 2022, 01:40:34 PM
So just have to patience when the official news will be released, obviously it will be next year so we already have a good calendar schedule for the month of January already. Probably this will be in the first quarter of 2023.

Boxing fans can wait because we are guaranteed that this fight is gonna happen, the word "mandatory" is the one that guarantees us we will see the fight. We can't talk about Spence vs Crawford now as Spence has Thurman in front of him that could steal his belt if he will not give his best.

More time to practice for these two great boxers if it will happen on March 2023, so they'll be 100% (hopefully with no injury).

Yes, it's a mandatory fight, therefore Spence has to accept this fight and prepared for it. We will finally see a good fight next year, no Spence vs Crawford, no problem because Thurman is just as good as Crawford, or even better. Let us not think of injury, they know how big is at stake in this fight, so they'll try their best to stay healthy and be on the ring at the scheduled date.

What you said is so arguable, Thurman is not as good as Crawford nor equal with the latter. There's a lot of people who will disagree with that line Grin

Let's just see first if Keith Thurman here can upset the current 3-belt champion, Errol Spence Jr. before we can start that discussion on who is better. Anyway, I hope there will be a final announcement regarding this fight so that people can also prepare especially the ones who would like to see the fight live.
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December 04, 2022, 10:28:50 AM
So just have to patience when the official news will be released, obviously it will be next year so we already have a good calendar schedule for the month of January already. Probably this will be in the first quarter of 2023.

Boxing fans can wait because we are guaranteed that this fight is gonna happen, the word "mandatory" is the one that guarantees us we will see the fight. We can't talk about Spence vs Crawford now as Spence has Thurman in front of him that could steal his belt if he will not give his best.

More time to practice for these two great boxers if it will happen on March 2023, so they'll be 100% (hopefully with no injury).

Yes, it's a mandatory fight, therefore Spence has to accept this fight and prepared for it. We will finally see a good fight next year, no Spence vs Crawford, no problem because Thurman is just as good as Crawford, or even better. Let us not think of injury, they know how big is at stake in this fight, so they'll try their best to stay healthy and be on the ring at the scheduled date.
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December 04, 2022, 09:41:41 AM
So just have to patience when the official news will be released, obviously it will be next year so we already have a good calendar schedule for the month of January already. Probably this will be in the first quarter of 2023.

Boxing fans can wait because we are guaranteed that this fight is gonna happen, the word "mandatory" is the one that guarantees us we will see the fight. We can't talk about Spence vs Crawford now as Spence has Thurman in front of him that could steal his belt if he will not give his best.

More time to practice for these two great boxers if it will happen on March 2023, so they'll be 100% (hopefully with no injury).
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December 04, 2022, 08:08:59 AM
So will Spence defend his belts against Thurman? So if the WBC becomes vacant, who's facing Thurman? Usually, I visit each of the boxing belts' websites in order to track their rankings but nowadays Wikipedia has a compilation of their rankings, but it seems it is not yet updated. Keith Thurman is still ranked 4. It reminds me how corrupt and money-oriented the WBC is since they are now calling Thurman the mandatory after a tough win over a bum Mario Barrios while Vergil Ortiz, David Avanesyan, and Jarron Ennis are working hard to climb the rankings. Anyways, Vergil Ortiz will kill Thurman if they are to face each other for the vacant belt.

For Spence, it is not the best way to hold 3 belts in a division. Spence doesn't have the Ring magazine belt nor recognized by the TBRB as a lineal champion. That being said, the reign of legendary Manny Pacquiao at 126 and 140 where he didn't hold any of the 4 major sanctioning belts are way way better than Spence's 3 belts. Being recognized as the lineal and awarded the Ring belt is far better than any of the 4 boxing alphabets. So technically speaking, Spence needs Crawford because the vacant Ring belt can only be awarded when the top 1 and top 2 in the same division collide.
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December 04, 2022, 04:50:44 AM
How many weeks have already passed with no new information? After being denied his chance a few years back, does Spence really not want to defend against Thurman?

When Crawford is finished dealing with Avanesyan, Spence will also be available. Spence must therefore need to pick a fight. He doesn't give updates to his fans and media on what will happen next. Will he stay or will he advance to another division? He is starting to irritate people. 

This is to answer your question.
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The Thurman fight has materialized after negotiations between Spence and WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford (38-0) fell through. Coppinger explained what happened there.
Instead, Crawford will fight David Avanesyan on Dec. 10. Per Lance Pugmire of USA Today, February is the expected month for the Spence-Thurman fight.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10055263-errol-spence-ordered-to-defend-welterweight-title-vs-keith-thurman

There is no need for us to worry because Spence would really face Thurman as he doesn't have that much choice to deprive the latter because the consequence is heavy, especially now that the WBA has also joined the party and ordered Spence to defend his title against Keith Thurman. Moreover, both named boxers are in the same stable so it's really not that hard to make the fight happen.

Yes, it will be a shamed if they will not fight since it was ordered already. And Spence will have to find a decent boxer to face because of the fall out of his fight against Crawford who already had a schedule fight against David Avanesyan.

If this fight will not happen but Spence getting lesser name opponent, then for sure fans will see him as really avoiding Thurman just like what he said many years ago.

So the pressure on on Spence now, he has no choice but to face Thurman.

Not going to happen, Errol Spence Jr. doesn't have much of a choice here because he will be stripped of his WBA and WBC if he will not fight Keith Thurman. That sure ain't a worthy move for Spence and Al Haymon won't let that slide either. He should just forget about taking revenge on the latter because he will lose his status because of that, why not materialize the fight and just prove that he is indeed the top dog compared to Keith. That's the kind of revenge he should do, a worthy sweet revenge.

Right, and the hype has started already even if we haven't heard the official announcement of this fight. But at the back of our minds, we know that this fight is going to be made by Al Haymon to quit Spence Jr. critics because although Thurman looks like a shot boxer, still he is a good challenge because of Thurman's power and his experience.

So just have to patience when the official news will be released, obviously it will be next year so we already have a good calendar schedule for the month of January already. Probably this will be in the first quarter of 2023.
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December 04, 2022, 04:30:34 AM
How many weeks have already passed with no new information? After being denied his chance a few years back, does Spence really not want to defend against Thurman?

When Crawford is finished dealing with Avanesyan, Spence will also be available. Spence must therefore need to pick a fight. He doesn't give updates to his fans and media on what will happen next. Will he stay or will he advance to another division? He is starting to irritate people. 

If he choose that direction then Thurman will take his belt, a mandatory fight that being call by the association so Spence needs to comply with this mandaotry fight to defend and possible keeping the belt, If he will let Thurman take this belt then it will be an interesting event that possibly brings Thurman in a talk against Crawford.

I like also that possibility, I like to see how Thurman will chase Crawford's belt though it will be a tough fight as Crawford is more on defensive strategy a hard one to penetrate and land a solid combinations.

Spence would be out of his mind if he will let that happen, giving his hard-earned belts to Thurman is not gonna happen, Thurman needs to earn that by beating Spence. And yes, of course, if Thurman will be the new title holder, things will be easier for Crawford to convince Thurman as the latter is not afraid to fight anyone, that's in his DNA.

Spence was making sure that he will remain a champion and undefeated, so he will not be stupid to just lose his belt easily. Thurman is not an easy opponent, so I'm pretty sure that Spence is happy with his opponent as a win will make big news. People will always compare, if both Spence and Crawford win, people will appreciate Spence because of his tough opponent.

I don't know, but I have a feeling that this is the toughest fight of Spence.

A great challenge for Spence during his peak now, Thurman is a big threat but if Spence take these fight and win, then it will be an addition to his career, protecting your belt against a very talented challenger adds value to your greatness, and if both Spence and Crawford wins from their respective fights, the call for them to meet will be on the social medias.

Fans for sure wanted things to happen just like how Pacquiao and Mayweather, late, but still the fight happens and the rest is history.

Let's wait for the final decision on both camps, while waiting for the outcome of each matchup with their respective opponents.
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December 03, 2022, 12:44:53 PM
How many weeks have already passed with no new information? After being denied his chance a few years back, does Spence really not want to defend against Thurman?

When Crawford is finished dealing with Avanesyan, Spence will also be available. Spence must therefore need to pick a fight. He doesn't give updates to his fans and media on what will happen next. Will he stay or will he advance to another division? He is starting to irritate people. 

This is to answer your question.
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The Thurman fight has materialized after negotiations between Spence and WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford (38-0) fell through. Coppinger explained what happened there.
Instead, Crawford will fight David Avanesyan on Dec. 10. Per Lance Pugmire of USA Today, February is the expected month for the Spence-Thurman fight.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10055263-errol-spence-ordered-to-defend-welterweight-title-vs-keith-thurman

There is no need for us to worry because Spence would really face Thurman as he doesn't have that much choice to deprive the latter because the consequence is heavy, especially now that the WBA has also joined the party and ordered Spence to defend his title against Keith Thurman. Moreover, both named boxers are in the same stable so it's really not that hard to make the fight happen.

Yes, it will be a shamed if they will not fight since it was ordered already. And Spence will have to find a decent boxer to face because of the fall out of his fight against Crawford who already had a schedule fight against David Avanesyan.

If this fight will not happen but Spence getting lesser name opponent, then for sure fans will see him as really avoiding Thurman just like what he said many years ago.

So the pressure on on Spence now, he has no choice but to face Thurman.

Not going to happen, Errol Spence Jr. doesn't have much of a choice here because he will be stripped of his WBA and WBC if he will not fight Keith Thurman. That sure ain't a worthy move for Spence and Al Haymon won't let that slide either. He should just forget about taking revenge on the latter because he will lose his status because of that, why not materialize the fight and just prove that he is indeed the top dog compared to Keith. That's the kind of revenge he should do, a worthy sweet revenge.
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December 03, 2022, 11:55:31 AM
How many weeks have already passed with no new information? After being denied his chance a few years back, does Spence really not want to defend against Thurman?

When Crawford is finished dealing with Avanesyan, Spence will also be available. Spence must therefore need to pick a fight. He doesn't give updates to his fans and media on what will happen next. Will he stay or will he advance to another division? He is starting to irritate people. 

This is to answer your question.
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The Thurman fight has materialized after negotiations between Spence and WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford (38-0) fell through. Coppinger explained what happened there.
Instead, Crawford will fight David Avanesyan on Dec. 10. Per Lance Pugmire of USA Today, February is the expected month for the Spence-Thurman fight.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10055263-errol-spence-ordered-to-defend-welterweight-title-vs-keith-thurman

There is no need for us to worry because Spence would really face Thurman as he doesn't have that much choice to deprive the latter because the consequence is heavy, especially now that the WBA has also joined the party and ordered Spence to defend his title against Keith Thurman. Moreover, both named boxers are in the same stable so it's really not that hard to make the fight happen.

Yes, it will be a shamed if they will not fight since it was ordered already. And Spence will have to find a decent boxer to face because of the fall out of his fight against Crawford who already had a schedule fight against David Avanesyan.

If this fight will not happen but Spence getting lesser name opponent, then for sure fans will see him as really avoiding Thurman just like what he said many years ago.

So the pressure on on Spence now, he has no choice but to face Thurman.
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December 03, 2022, 11:52:49 AM
How many weeks have already passed with no new information? After being denied his chance a few years back, does Spence really not want to defend against Thurman?

When Crawford is finished dealing with Avanesyan, Spence will also be available. Spence must therefore need to pick a fight. He doesn't give updates to his fans and media on what will happen next. Will he stay or will he advance to another division? He is starting to irritate people. 

This is to answer your question.
Quote
The Thurman fight has materialized after negotiations between Spence and WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford (38-0) fell through. Coppinger explained what happened there.
Instead, Crawford will fight David Avanesyan on Dec. 10. Per Lance Pugmire of USA Today, February is the expected month for the Spence-Thurman fight.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10055263-errol-spence-ordered-to-defend-welterweight-title-vs-keith-thurman

There is no need for us to worry because Spence would really face Thurman as he doesn't have that much choice to deprive the latter because the consequence is heavy, especially now that the WBA has also joined the party and ordered Spence to defend his title against Keith Thurman. Moreover, both named boxers are in the same stable so it's really not that hard to make the fight happen.
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December 03, 2022, 09:56:30 AM
I don't think Spence needs to make noise anymore because he has proven a lot already.

Boxers are making noise to market the fight, both boxers are popular, but they are still trying to gain more people to watch their fight to gain more money. Well, boxing is business, boxers fight not only for honor but most especially for the money, that's why there's a promoter because they are investing on a fight, and in order for the fight to be called successful, it should be entertaining.
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December 03, 2022, 09:38:01 AM
How many weeks have already passed with no new information? After being denied his chance a few years back, does Spence really not want to defend against Thurman?

When Crawford is finished dealing with Avanesyan, Spence will also be available. Spence must therefore need to pick a fight. He doesn't give updates to his fans and media on what will happen next. Will he stay or will he advance to another division? He is starting to irritate people. 

If he choose that direction then Thurman will take his belt, a mandatory fight that being call by the association so Spence needs to comply with this mandaotry fight to defend and possible keep the belt, If he will let Thurman take this belt then it will be an interesting event that possibly brings Thurman in a talk against Crawford.

I like also that possibility, I like to see how Thurman will chase Crawford's belt though it will be a tough fight as Crawford is more on defensive strategy a hard one to penetrate and land a solid combination.

Spence would be out of his mind if he will let that happen, giving his hard-earned belts to Thurman is not gonna happen, Thurman needs to earn that by beating Spence. And yes, of course, if Thurman will be the new title holder, things will be easier for Crawford to convince Thurman as the latter is not afraid to fight anyone, that's in his DNA.

Spence was making sure that he will remain a champion and undefeated, so he will not be stupid to just lose his belt easily. Thurman is not an easy opponent, so I'm pretty sure that Spence is happy with his opponent as a win will make big news. People will always compare, if both Spence and Crawford win, people will appreciate Spence because of his tough opponent.

I don't know, but I have a feeling that this is the toughest fight of Spence.
Spence will surely do everything to defend his title. Thurman isn't an easy opponent so there's a huge possibility that he could take the title from him so he must be careful. If he'll face Thurman, he better make sure that he'll hardly defend his hard-earned title, or else his hard work will be put on nothing. I don't think Spence needs to make noise anymore because he has proven a lot already.
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December 03, 2022, 09:29:36 AM
How many weeks have already passed with no new information? After being denied his chance a few years back, does Spence really not want to defend against Thurman?

When Crawford is finished dealing with Avanesyan, Spence will also be available. Spence must therefore need to pick a fight. He doesn't give updates to his fans and media on what will happen next. Will he stay or will he advance to another division? He is starting to irritate people. 

If he choose that direction then Thurman will take his belt, a mandatory fight that being call by the association so Spence needs to comply with this mandaotry fight to defend and possible keeping the belt, If he will let Thurman take this belt then it will be an interesting event that possibly brings Thurman in a talk against Crawford.

I like also that possibility, I like to see how Thurman will chase Crawford's belt though it will be a tough fight as Crawford is more on defensive strategy a hard one to penetrate and land a solid combinations.

Spence would be out of his mind if he will let that happen, giving his hard-earned belts to Thurman is not gonna happen, Thurman needs to earn that by beating Spence. And yes, of course, if Thurman will be the new title holder, things will be easier for Crawford to convince Thurman as the latter is not afraid to fight anyone, that's in his DNA.

Spence was making sure that he will remain a champion and undefeated, so he will not be stupid to just lose his belt easily. Thurman is not an easy opponent, so I'm pretty sure that Spence is happy with his opponent as a win will make big news. People will always compare, if both Spence and Crawford win, people will appreciate Spence because of his tough opponent.

I don't know, but I have a feeling that this is the toughest fight of Spence.
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December 03, 2022, 07:31:46 AM
How many weeks have already passed with no new information? After being denied his chance a few years back, does Spence really not want to defend against Thurman?

When Crawford is finished dealing with Avanesyan, Spence will also be available. Spence must therefore need to pick a fight. He doesn't give updates to his fans and media on what will happen next. Will he stay or will he advance to another division? He is starting to irritate people. 

If he choose that direction then Thurman will take his belt, a mandatory fight that being call by the association so Spence needs to comply with this mandaotry fight to defend and possible keeping the belt, If he will let Thurman take this belt then it will be an interesting event that possibly brings Thurman in a talk against Crawford.

I like also that possibility, I like to see how Thurman will chase Crawford's belt though it will be a tough fight as Crawford is more on defensive strategy a hard one to penetrate and land a solid combinations.

Spence would be out of his mind if he will let that happen, giving his hard-earned belts to Thurman is not gonna happen, Thurman needs to earn that by beating Spence. And yes, of course, if Thurman will be the new title holder, things will be easier for Crawford to convince Thurman as the latter is not afraid to fight anyone, that's in his DNA.
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December 03, 2022, 06:58:41 AM
How many weeks have already passed with no new information? After being denied his chance a few years back, does Spence really not want to defend against Thurman?

When Crawford is finished dealing with Avanesyan, Spence will also be available. Spence must therefore need to pick a fight. He doesn't give updates to his fans and media on what will happen next. Will he stay or will he advance to another division? He is starting to irritate people. 

If he choose that direction then Thurman will take his belt, a mandatory fight that being call by the association so Spence needs to comply with this mandaotry fight to defend and possible keeping the belt, If he will let Thurman take this belt then it will be an interesting event that possibly brings Thurman in a talk against Crawford.

I like also that possibility, I like to see how Thurman will chase Crawford's belt though it will be a tough fight as Crawford is more on defensive strategy a hard one to penetrate and land a solid combinations.
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December 02, 2022, 07:59:25 PM
Yes, this is what I'm trying to say, they really wanted to outdo each other and even though they are not facing each one directly, but in their separate fight we can see the quality of opponents and who has the better one, and obviously in this case Spence has better opponent in Keith Thurman, although someone can argue that Thurman might not be in his prime anymore, he lost to Manny Pacquiao already. But still though, Thurman can still fight and pull the trigger and might give Spence a good fight if they meet somewhere next year.

Agree with. Keith Thurman is no doubt a much more competitive boxer compared to David Avanesyan.

In terms of everything, it is clear that Spence is fighting a considered one of the big fish and not comparable to Crawford's opponent, Avanesyan. Though we can't just underestimate Avanesyan as he even said that his fight against Crawford is not an easy fight for Bud for fans that understand boxing. I'm not sure how he ended up saying that statement lol.

Either way, I hope that both Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. will win their respective fights to open up a chance again for another possibility of their showdown that is now several years in the making and now becomes still far from being a reality even if it was almost close to happening this year.
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December 02, 2022, 06:40:56 PM

And for sure Spence doesn't want to get criticized specially on how Crawford portray them during their negotiations for a potential fight for this year.

This is Spence chance to prove that he is better than Crawford if he will win this fight, why? because he has a better opponent compared to Crawford who is not a championship caliber fighter. If this would not happen and Crawford won his fight, people will talk more about Crawford and Spence might be left behind.

Yes, this is what I'm trying to say, they really wanted to outdo each other and even though they are not facing each one directly, but in their separate fight we can see the quality of opponents and who has the better one, and obviously in this case Spence has better opponent in Keith Thurman, although someone can argue that Thurman might not be in his prime anymore, he lost to Manny Pacquiao already. But still though, Thurman can still fight and pull the trigger and might give Spence a good fight if they meet somewhere next year.
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December 02, 2022, 12:30:43 PM

And for sure Spence doesn't want to get criticized specially on how Crawford portray them during their negotiations for a potential fight for this year.

This is Spence chance to prove that he is better than Crawford if he will win this fight, why? because he has a better opponent compared to Crawford who is not a championship caliber fighter. If this would not happen and Crawford won his fight, people will talk more about Crawford and Spence might be left behind.

I think it's the other way around, people still know for a fact that Crawford is just on a different level compared to Errol Spence Jr. and it's also evident why they steer clear away from Crawford and left him hanging from that negotiation. But anyway, as I said, people will still side with Crawford even if Spence will overcome Thurman and will only believe if they will clash with each other to see who's who.
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