[Boxing] Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul - February 20 - page 36.

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If you remember the Tenshin Nasukawa exhibition fight in Japan it looks like a scripted match, just go and watch the fight and you will understand. Yes i know the fact that Tenshin Nasukawa is not a boxer and he was really young and just weighed around 128 pounds.

It really looks scripted but they are the only people that knows what's really happening inside. Any exhibition fight is prone to getting scripted as its not really a real competition, the main purpose is just to entertain the fans, so we can consider that a fight is scripted, but who would complain if they don't know.

Most will pay and watch to be entertained.

Even they'll know that a possible script has been made before the match all they care is to see this two fighter meet inside the ring.
Some still care how the outcome will be, even gamblers will use this opportunities to place their money and gamble out.

But what kind of odds they'll get from Mayweather, I mean is it really worth to take the risk with an almost no loss for Mayweather but you'll not be getting good odds. I would be okay to bet if it's equal odds but it's not, Logan Paul has a very slim chance of winning, which makes this fight not so entertaining.

It is not entertaining not only in terms of actual performance but also in terms of gambling odds. Mayweather will definitely come out the huge favorite and Paul the huge underdog. Well, what do you expect? This is a fight between an undefeated professional boxer and a Youtuber. This is going to be around 1.01 for Mayweather and 10.00 for Logan Paul.

I used this https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html.. and based on this article, https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/logan-paul-vs-floyd-mayweather-odds-betting, the odds for these two are as follows.

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. -3500
Logan Paul +1200

So using the converter, -3500 is converted to 1.03 with 97.1% Implied Probability. At least you still have 3% of your bet if you like to risk.

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If you remember the Tenshin Nasukawa exhibition fight in Japan it looks like a scripted match, just go and watch the fight and you will understand. Yes i know the fact that Tenshin Nasukawa is not a boxer and he was really young and just weighed around 128 pounds.

It really looks scripted but they are the only people that knows what's really happening inside. Any exhibition fight is prone to getting scripted as its not really a real competition, the main purpose is just to entertain the fans, so we can consider that a fight is scripted, but who would complain if they don't know.

Most will pay and watch to be entertained.

Even they'll know that a possible script has been made before the match all they care is to see this two fighter meet inside the ring.
Some still care how the outcome will be, even gamblers will use this opportunities to place their money and gamble out.

But what kind of odds they'll get from Mayweather, I mean is it really worth to take the risk with an almost no loss for Mayweather but you'll not be getting good odds. I would be okay to bet if it's equal odds but it's not, Logan Paul has a very slim chance of winning, which makes this fight not so entertaining.

It is not entertaining not only in terms of actual performance but also in terms of gambling odds. Mayweather will definitely come out the huge favorite and Paul the huge underdog. Well, what do you expect? This is a fight between an undefeated professional boxer and a Youtuber. This is going to be around 1.01 for Mayweather and 10.00 for Logan Paul.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 24, 2020, 06:38:10 PM

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If you remember the Tenshin Nasukawa exhibition fight in Japan it looks like a scripted match, just go and watch the fight and you will understand. Yes i know the fact that Tenshin Nasukawa is not a boxer and he was really young and just weighed around 128 pounds.

It really looks scripted but they are the only people that knows what's really happening inside. Any exhibition fight is prone to getting scripted as its not really a real competition, the main purpose is just to entertain the fans, so we can consider that a fight is scripted, but who would complain if they don't know.

Most will pay and watch to be entertained.

Even they'll know that a possible script has been made before the match all they care is to see this two fighter meet inside the ring.
Some still care how the outcome will be, even gamblers will use this opportunities to place their money and gamble out.

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If you remember the Tenshin Nasukawa exhibition fight in Japan it looks like a scripted match, just go and watch the fight and you will understand. Yes i know the fact that Tenshin Nasukawa is not a boxer and he was really young and just weighed around 128 pounds.

It really looks scripted but they are the only people that knows what's really happening inside. Any exhibition fight is prone to getting scripted as its not really a real competition, the main purpose is just to entertain the fans, so we can consider that a fight is scripted, but who would complain if they don't know.

Scenarios are different and with varying degrees of detail: from "you do this and that every minute" to " baby, you're going to lie on the floor in the third round" Wink

For example, I read that in the same wrestling, fighters before a fight agree only on the outcome of the match, and then there is purely improvisation with one side playing along with the other. It is clear that even in an exhibition fight, Logan Paul has no chance against a boxer like Mayweather, the other question is when, according to the scenario, Floyd will be allowed to start acting in earnest.

I look into this fight as entertainment, it is just watching an action movie where Mayweather is a director and producer. lol
He just makes himself funny and it can't blame that people never think he is undefeated. He is a smart guy, he got into boxing as his business and we are sure that he will win this fight.

I don't know if someone will put a bet on Logan Paul because that will be ridiculous. Yeah, maybe I win because he never knockout Logan and let him survive until 12 round.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 24, 2020, 06:38:10 PM

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If you remember the Tenshin Nasukawa exhibition fight in Japan it looks like a scripted match, just go and watch the fight and you will understand. Yes i know the fact that Tenshin Nasukawa is not a boxer and he was really young and just weighed around 128 pounds.

It really looks scripted but they are the only people that knows what's really happening inside. Any exhibition fight is prone to getting scripted as its not really a real competition, the main purpose is just to entertain the fans, so we can consider that a fight is scripted, but who would complain if they don't know.

Scenarios are different and with varying degrees of detail: from "you do this and that every minute" to " baby, you're going to lie on the floor in the third round" Wink

For example, I read that in the same wrestling, fighters before a fight agree only on the outcome of the match, and then there is purely improvisation with one side playing along with the other. It is clear that even in an exhibition fight, Logan Paul has no chance against a boxer like Mayweather, the other question is when, according to the scenario, Floyd will be allowed to start acting in earnest.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 24, 2020, 06:38:10 PM

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If you remember the Tenshin Nasukawa exhibition fight in Japan it looks like a scripted match, just go and watch the fight and you will understand. Yes i know the fact that Tenshin Nasukawa is not a boxer and he was really young and just weighed around 128 pounds.

It really looks scripted but they are the only people that knows what's really happening inside. Any exhibition fight is prone to getting scripted as its not really a real competition, the main purpose is just to entertain the fans, so we can consider that a fight is scripted, but who would complain if they don't know.

It wont be scripted for sure but those punches would really be on the light side of things to avoid some serious injuries specially to Logan.They wont really be making a serious one

since its clear as sky on who would be sleeping out on the canvass if those heavy shots would be real.This is just really for entertainment purposes only and of course on making huge money or profits.

Expect that mayweather would be having more like these of fights in the future.He would definitely do these things rinse and repeat until he make himself too hell of a rich guy even more inspite
of being a hall of famer already.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on December 24, 2020, 09:06:08 AM

If you remember the Tenshin Nasukawa exhibition fight in Japan it looks like a scripted match, just go and watch the fight and you will understand. Yes i know the fact that Tenshin Nasukawa is not a boxer and he was really young and just weighed around 128 pounds.

It really looks scripted but they are the only people that knows what's really happening inside. Any exhibition fight is prone to getting scripted as its not really a real competition, the main purpose is just to entertain the fans, so we can consider that a fight is scripted, but who would complain if they don't know.

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Quote from: livingfree on December 24, 2020, 12:37:42 AM

But others think that because Floyd is already retired, Logan can get a chance to win against a professional boxer, the undefeatable "money" although I respect their opinions. The way that he can beat Floyd is through two ways.

Floyd Mayweather retired from boxing and it is a fact, even if he gets defeated in an exhibition bout that will not count in his professional record, in his amateur boxing career he has 8 losses, so having a loss is not a new aspect even if you look in that aspect.

Quote from: livingfree on December 24, 2020, 12:37:42 AM

But I don't think Floyd has ever into scripted matches.

If you remember the Tenshin Nasukawa exhibition fight in Japan it looks like a scripted match, just go and watch the fight and you will understand. Yes i know the fact that Tenshin Nasukawa is not a boxer and he was really young and just weighed around 128 pounds.

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I just saw this thread. So Logan Paul is getting into fights with pro boxers now? I think I can guess how this is going to end. Roll Eyes

Seriously, a Youtuber with no professional boxing experience hopes to win or draw against someone like Mayweather? Even though he's retired... really? I just don't see how he can do it. This almost sounds like comedy Cheesy

This is as what I'm exactly telling.

But others think that because Floyd is already retired, Logan can get a chance to win against a professional boxer, the undefeatable "money" although I respect their opinions. The way that he can beat Floyd is through two ways.

1. Lucky punch
2. Scripted match

But I don't think Floyd has ever into scripted matches.

That's a big shame on him, if a professional fighter can't land their lucky punch on Floyd, I doubt an amateur boxer will do. A scripted fight would always favor him as he want to be the winner all the time, that's his way of increasing his value, so there's no reason for him to lose here.

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But I don't think Floyd has ever into scripted matches.

Yeah, I don't think he does those kinds of things, especially where he takes the loss. He has never done that, so the match would likely a sure win for him the only thing we don't know is what round he gonna finish off his opponent. More likely it will become like the Japanese Fighter loss. I think so because I never heard of this boxer before. Floyd will only play with him and I also doubt if he can get a clean hit.

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Quote from: NotATether on December 23, 2020, 04:44:38 AM

I just saw this thread. So Logan Paul is getting into fights with pro boxers now? I think I can guess how this is going to end. Roll Eyes

Seriously, a Youtuber with no professional boxing experience hopes to win or draw against someone like Mayweather? Even though he's retired... really? I just don't see how he can do it. This almost sounds like comedy Cheesy

This is as what I'm exactly telling.

But others think that because Floyd is already retired, Logan can get a chance to win against a professional boxer, the undefeatable "money" although I respect their opinions. The way that he can beat Floyd is through two ways.

1. Lucky punch
2. Scripted match

But I don't think Floyd has ever into scripted matches.

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Quote from: Mauser on December 23, 2020, 10:34:49 AM

I am still skeptical about this fight. Floyd is a former world champion. Logan Paul has no chance. Even though he is younger and might be fit the experience Floyd has will this make an easy fight. How are the bets looking for the fight? This would be an easy way for all of us to make some money.

If you check the previous posts, then you can see odds given by various gambling sites. For Floyd Mayweather, they are in the -3500 to -5000 range. So if you are making a bet of $200 on Floyd, you may end up with a profit of $4-$6. It is up to you to decide whether this is "an easy way to make money". IMO, as far as gambling is concerned, there is no "easy money" to be made. No outcome is 100% guaranteed, and fights such as this one will be having very low potential returns.

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Quote from: NotATether on December 23, 2020, 04:44:38 AM

I just saw this thread. So Logan Paul is getting into fights with pro boxers now? I think I can guess how this is going to end. Roll Eyes

The fight is already Judged and the winner is Literally Mayweather Grin

Quote from: NotATether on December 23, 2020, 04:44:38 AM

Seriously, a Youtuber with no professional boxing experience hopes to win or draw against someone like Mayweather? Even though he's retired... really? I just don't see how he can do it. This almost sounds like comedy Cheesy

They may not be Both professional Boxer but at least they both have one thing that Agreeable ,and that is Both of them wanted Fame and Attention Grin

anyway this is just exhibition game ,so it's given that Nothing serious expected here if in terms of Boxing.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 22, 2020, 10:42:24 PM

If Mayweather wanted a real fight, then he could have agreed to the proposal by Manny Pacquiao for a rematch. But he refused the proposal, and said that he is no longer interested in professional boxing. So for him, he is in this fight only for the money. I don't think that there is anything wrong here. He will get a few tens of millions of USD, for spending a few hours on the boxing ring. Not bad for a retired boxer who is almost 44 years old.

We the fans were not lucky enough to watch Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao fight in their prime and that is mainly because Mayweather was avoiding him for a long time and the fans were tired about the situation and when that fight happened Manny Pacquiao was injured before the fight and the commission did not allow to have painkiller shots before the fight and there is no way Mayweather wants that rematch.

Mayweather knows how to make millions without much sweat and he is doing his business Grin

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Nothing is impossible, we even thought in the past that the fight would not happen, but it did happen, so the fact that they have already fought, a rematch is not impossible, probably Mayweather is just looking for the right timing, this is big money, no one would ever resist it.

Makes sense although I hope they could start with it soon since they are already at the same agency, it would not be that hard. But with the pandemic still going around, I think it is better if they could plan this big event in 2022 in which would gather fans viewers that would also generate a lot of profits for Mayweather if he really wants it.

Both understands that a rematch could be their last fight, so if they will agree, they'll make sure there a crowd in an arena as ticket sales plays a major part of the revenue, maybe even higher than the PPV I believe.

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When you have a "win or lose" situation, like making 300 million dollars let's say, but you end up losing, versus making 15 million dollars but you win, it is not about the money it is about the reputation.

Mayweather has zero losses in his entire career, sure he fought some schmucks like Logan, he had a lot of easy fights, but at the end of the day he had some serious games as well and he fought some serious opponents as well, most importantly pacman, which was one of the biggest fights in history. Obviously he could pick to fight with someone that can pay well, but what if he losses? That means he will not have a perfect record.

This is the reason why at some point, when you have so much money, it is more about your reputation than about who you are fighting. If he fights someone famous, someone he may not win, and make a lot of money, but end up winning, that would be even better but he can't risk it at this point.

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Quote from: NotATether on December 23, 2020, 04:44:38 AM

I just saw this thread. So Logan Paul is getting into fights with pro boxers now? I think I can guess how this is going to end. Roll Eyes

Seriously, a Youtuber with no professional boxing experience hopes to win or draw against someone like Mayweather? Even though he's retired... really? I just don't see how he can do it. This almost sounds like comedy Cheesy

I personally think logan paul isn't hoping to win but is just in it for the money and so is Floyd Mayweather. that is why I think this fight is trash and is only a waste of time and money for those who are actually interested on watching a proper boxing fight.

Quote from: NotATether on December 23, 2020, 04:44:38 AM

This almost sounds like comedy Cheesy

it is a comedy it is just saddening that a great boxer is participating in it

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I am still skeptical about this fight. Floyd is a former world champion. Logan Paul has no chance. Even though he is younger and might be fit the experience Floyd has will this make an easy fight. How are the bets looking for the fight? This would be an easy way for all of us to make some money.

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He will not do it, i don't remember any rematches that he agree to play with, and Mayweather will not let his guard down, he will not let other people win the game because they might do like what he did to them, if he will make a rematch with Manny expect that it will create a tons of money again, but the thing is he will not be the winner this time and I am sure of it, and if ever I will not bet in this game, I rather bet in not so well known boxer rather than a game with Floyd.

Mayweather will really hold into that record until he dies. I think it would be a miracle if Mayweather fights again Sen. Manny Pacquiao, if that is the case I find this rematch to be impossible. Maybe another rematch to McGregor is a match he would approve, because it would be another millions in his pocket. He's amazing to achieve an unbeatable run until he hang his gloves, we can't argue about that but accepting these matches might've hit some of the boxers that wanted to face him.

I don't really see why that will not happen as there is a lot of possibility that we need to consider especially the amount that Mayweather will accumulate either he win or he lose. Anyway, it might not only on Mayweather side that the match may not be held as Manny's wife and grandmother is too worried for him in matches with well-known boxer i.e. Mayweather.
Anyway, I can this rematch to happen before any of those two hang their gloves for good for their last match and I'll be watching it.

Probably the rematch will generate a bigger money than the first one, the first one was called as the fight of the century but in essence it's really not as it turns out a boring fight, more on running as Mayweather dictated the pace, maybe in the 2nd time Manny will be lucky then people will be satisfied.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on December 23, 2020, 06:08:35 AM

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He will not do it, i don't remember any rematches that he agree to play with, and Mayweather will not let his guard down, he will not let other people win the game because they might do like what he did to them, if he will make a rematch with Manny expect that it will create a tons of money again, but the thing is he will not be the winner this time and I am sure of it, and if ever I will not bet in this game, I rather bet in not so well known boxer rather than a game with Floyd.

Mayweather will really hold into that record until he dies. I think it would be a miracle if Mayweather fights again Sen. Manny Pacquiao, if that is the case I find this rematch to be impossible. Maybe another rematch to McGregor is a match he would approve, because it would be another millions in his pocket. He's amazing to achieve an unbeatable run until he hang his gloves, we can't argue about that but accepting these matches might've hit some of the boxers that wanted to face him.

I don't really see why that will not happen as there is a lot of possibility that we need to consider especially the amount that Mayweather will accumulate either he win or he lose. Anyway, it might not only on Mayweather side that the match may not be held as Manny's wife and grandmother is too worried for him in matches with well-known boxer i.e. Mayweather.
Anyway, I can this rematch to happen before any of those two hang their gloves for good for their last match and I'll be watching it.

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