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Looks like 2021 is the year of Boxing history and we are watching some real rivalry these upcoming months. One of those is the dreamed trilogy between Fury and Wilder. Hope that they can't find any reason to cancel this fight since this one is a must-fight to stop all those doubts that Fury is the best heavyweight boxer in the current era. Coming back from a knockdown and managed to get the win, is something you don't see often in a championship match.
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The trilogy will happen, it's already in the contract, right?
The trilogy will happen but i doubt it will take place on the announced date in October as i am expecting the fight to be reschedules again due to health condition.  

Does everyone trust Fury’s camp to be telling the truth? The skeptical me thinks Tyson Fury is only trying to do what Wilder’s camp did to him when Wilder’s camp broke Fury’s unification versus Joshua.

Another skeptical thought is Tyson Fury might be doing this as to cause more anxiety on Wilder which will certainly affect him psychologically. I speculate another postponement until Fury announces he is ready on January 2022 hehehe.
It is a good conspiracy but if the camp of Tyson Fury is making this up it means they are delaying the fight which means he is not fighting any other fighters either and i do not think they will waste time like that. Grin




However, they can waste their time like that if it gives Tyson Fury a psychological advantage over Deontay Wilder. Wilder appears to be trying his best to keep Tyson Fury out of his thoughts. Did you watch the press conference? He did not want to hear anything from Fury.

In any case, I speculate that Tyson Fury’s camp might postpone again and request for a schedule on December or January. I reckon this will certainly make Fury enter Wilder’s thoughts for months before the fight hehehe.

There were also some articles mentioning that the sales for the pay per view and tickets were very low for this fight. It appears the fans wanted Fury vs. Joshua.
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The trilogy has been set for 9th October 2021

at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas


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The report is on SKY SPORTS



I'm not sure why they've pushed it that far back. Covid would definitely not require that long. Honestly, I thought there was too quick of a turn around to be happening in July when the whole Wilder in court thing was happening. One thing for sure that I do know, is my hype for this fight is pretty much as low as it can get. This division moves so slowly, and I'm not even sure I'll bother watching the fight.

How slow moving the division is really takes  any momentum, and hype out of the fights. So, I could probably see them struggling with tickets, and Eddie might well have made the right assumption.

Interest on my part is fading just as it is with others because it is moving too slow. Maybe Joshua fighting Usyk first will bring Fury vs Wilder III back to the imagination of those who looked forward to it before the problems started, there will after all be an eventual unification fight between any combination of those four fighters.

Eddie Hearn might have been right about the lack of ticket sales but it cannot be denied there is still interest in the fight albeit like you said momentum and hype are affected because of the slow process involved. Eddie Hearn will say what he needs to say to present Joshua in a positive manner while making allegations towards possible opponents therefore I am not surprised because it is expected of him.
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The trilogy will happen but i doubt it will take place on the announced date in October as i am expecting the fight to be reschedules again due to health condition. 

Does everyone trust Fury’s camp to be telling the truth? The skeptical me thinks Tyson Fury is only trying to do what Wilder’s camp did to him when Wilder’s camp broke Fury’s unification versus Joshua.

Another skeptical thought is Tyson Fury might be doing this as to cause more anxiety on Wilder which will certainly affect him psychologically. I speculate another postponement until Fury announces he is ready on January 2022 hehehe.
It is a good conspiracy but if the camp of Tyson Fury is making this up it means they are delaying the fight which means he is not fighting any other fighters either and i do not think they will waste time like that. Grin


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18th July 2020 to 9th October 2021 .. Yeah thats way too far but its understandable due to some factors which is considerable on some point but if they would continue to keep on extending this one
Is it though? I mean, Covid recovery is probably expected fairly quickly for an elite athlete if the rumours are to be believed that is. Okay, Fury is carrying quite a bit of weight, and that would probably be a risk factor, but hes probably fitter than most. Besides, you'd probably wait until he had recovered from Covid before you reschedule the fight if that was your only concern.

The only valid reason I see that this might be an issue, and therefore was set for October would be they couldn't secure a suitable venue sooner, although with the amount of events being postponed, and the amount of money they would be able to throw at the venue holders, it probably isn't that restrictive.

People are annoyed by this since we were hearing rumours of Joshua & Fury basically fighting some point this year, probably in December which completely destroys that narrative.
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I'm not sure why they've pushed it that far back. Covid would definitely not require that long. Honestly, I thought there was too quick of a turn around to be happening in July when the whole Wilder in court thing was happening. One thing for sure that I do know, is my hype for this fight is pretty much as low as it can get. This division moves so slowly, and I'm not even sure I'll bother watching the fight.

How slow moving the division is really takes  any momentum, and hype out of the fights. So, I could probably see them struggling with tickets, and Eddie might well have made the right assumption.

18th July 2020 to 9th October 2021 .. Yeah thats way too far but its understandable due to some factors which is considerable on some point but if they would continue to keep on extending this one

then for sure interest for this trilogy would really be close to the floor. Trying to delay just because they are minding much about revenue? Its normal to mind of about it since this is business

but if people would find out for this to be boring then that would really be giving out some negative effect instead.
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I'm not sure why they've pushed it that far back. Covid would definitely not require that long. Honestly, I thought there was too quick of a turn around to be happening in July when the whole Wilder in court thing was happening. One thing for sure that I do know, is my hype for this fight is pretty much as low as it can get. This division moves so slowly, and I'm not even sure I'll bother watching the fight.

How slow moving the division is really takes  any momentum, and hype out of the fights. So, I could probably see them struggling with tickets, and Eddie might well have made the right assumption.
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BREAKING NEWS !!!





The trilogy has been set for 9th October 2021

at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas


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WILDER SAID: "Not only is Tyson Fury in for a shock, but the whole world is"

FURY REPLIED: "If Wilder is in front of me I will give him a good hiding. The motivation? It's what I was born to do"


The report is on SKY SPORTS


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Self isolation is only around 10 days so why they touted the month of October in the media is a mystery. I am not sure what Fury will gain from delaying the fight. Wilder seems to want it much more than Fury but I do not see it as an excuse on part of Fury for further delays. Maybe they hyped this in the media to gather more publicity and never planned for a long delay.



Eddie Hearn seems to think they've delayed it due to poor tickets sales and lack of interest in the fight, which could seem plausible but you have to take Hearn's word with a pinch of salt as he's obviously still annoyed the AJ fight didn't happen. Pushing it back as far as they have seems suspicious though.

What are the chances the Fury-Wilder trilogy will not go ahead this year? Let us say for example a week before the re-scheduled fight Wilder tests positive for COVID-19 or say Fury tests positive again, it would mean more uncertainty on the merry-go-round of misfortune of the fighters.
It depends upon how Tyson Fury is going to recover, there are some that struggle for months to regain their physical condition after getting infected and i could not find any updates regarding the condition of Tyson Fury, may be we might see the trilogy as the year end fight but it all depends upon how Tyson Fury is recovering and how soon he can attain top physical condition.

I thought it was someone in his camp not Fury himself that had it. I think he had the vaccine a while back.
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Does everyone trust Fury’s camp to be telling the truth? The skeptical me thinks Tyson Fury is only trying to do what Wilder’s camp did to him when Wilder’s camp broke Fury’s unification versus Joshua.

Another skeptical thought is Tyson Fury might be doing this as to cause more anxiety on Wilder which will certainly affect him psychologically. I speculate another postponement until Fury announces he is ready on January 2022 hehehe.

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I agree with you, if this is just a publicity stunt to generate hype then it is not going well. People are getting bored with it.

Most boxing fans want to see a unification fight between Fury and Joshua but will be happy to see any exciting fight take place including Joshua vs Usyk and Fury vs Wilder III before that. The constant negativity surrounding the Fury-Wilder trilogy has been a huge let down for most fans.

I wonder what the chances are for a heavyweight unification fight between Wilder vs Usyk taking place in 2022  Grin

Is it possible for Usyk to beat Joshua - Yes
Is it possible for Wilder to beat Fury - Yes
Is it possible for Wilder to fight Usyk in 2022 for a unification fight - Yes if they win their respective fights

Maybe there will be more twists and turns before a heavyweight unification fight takes place....


Self isolation is only around 10 days so why they touted the month of October in the media is a mystery. I am not sure what Fury will gain from delaying the fight. Wilder seems to want it much more than Fury but I do not see it as an excuse on part of Fury for further delays. Maybe they hyped this in the media to gather more publicity and never planned for a long delay.

If this is just another dumb marketing trick in order to warm up the interest of boxing fans in the fight, then in my opinion it works in the negative. Constant changes in dates lead to the fact that interest disappears because indifference comes like: when there is a fight, then we'll see. In fact, I do not specifically find out the news about this fight, only if by chance they catch my eye.
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What are the chances the Fury-Wilder trilogy will not go ahead this year? Let us say for example a week before the re-scheduled fight Wilder tests positive for COVID-19 or say Fury tests positive again, it would mean more uncertainty on the merry-go-round of misfortune of the fighters.
It depends upon how Tyson Fury is going to recover, there are some that struggle for months to regain their physical condition after getting infected and i could not find any updates regarding the condition of Tyson Fury, may be we might see the trilogy as the year end fight but it all depends upon how Tyson Fury is recovering and how soon he can attain top physical condition.

The trilogy will happen, it's already in the contract, right?

The news only says the fight will be postponed but they will make it happen. I have not read the news yet about Fury's condition but Fury as a boxer who has a lot of training, I'm pretty sure he can handle any disease especially covid-19 which is just like flu for one that has great stamina.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-coronavirus-deontay-wilder-24525333
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"He’s fine with it," Arum told BoxingScene.com of Fury having his second shot. "He got vaccinated in Miami. He got the first shot.

"And then he said he didn’t wanna get the second shot because he didn’t wanna get sick [from the vaccination] so close to the fight. So, he got COVID instead."

Arum claimed Fury was fully-vaccinated during a press conference in mid-June, but he admits he was mistaken due to a mix-up over the vaccine the Gypsy King received.
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What are the chances the Fury-Wilder trilogy will not go ahead this year? Let us say for example a week before the re-scheduled fight Wilder tests positive for COVID-19 or say Fury tests positive again, it would mean more uncertainty on the merry-go-round of misfortune of the fighters.
It depends upon how Tyson Fury is going to recover, there are some that struggle for months to regain their physical condition after getting infected and i could not find any updates regarding the condition of Tyson Fury, may be we might see the trilogy as the year end fight but it all depends upon how Tyson Fury is recovering and how soon he can attain top physical condition.
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Self isolation is only around 10 days so why they touted the month of October in the media is a mystery. I am not sure what Fury will gain from delaying the fight. Wilder seems to want it much more than Fury but I do not see it as an excuse on part of Fury for further delays. Maybe they hyped this in the media to gather more publicity and never planned for a long delay.

If this is just another dumb marketing trick in order to warm up the interest of boxing fans in the fight, then in my opinion it works in the negative. Constant changes in dates lead to the fact that interest disappears because indifference comes like: when there is a fight, then we'll see. In fact, I do not specifically find out the news about this fight, only if by chance they catch my eye.
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$100M personal purse for each fighter is no joke and this is why they would really be ensuring that they could reach it up, if there are some bit changes or alterations then
they might still consider it.

That's why they keep postponing it, they want this fight as the biggest and since it's a heavy weight match, it could easily gain the attention of the fans to watch the fight. Also, we have to believe that it's not on the only fight, we might see a rematch or a trilogy and both fighters if they will not get injured heavily will enjoy a good retirement fund.
Always been like that whenever there is some hype or demand or interest of people then its already expected for those kind of sequel or trilogy or even go with 4th time.

Delays or movement of dates are normal and we dont have no choice but to wait up if we are really eager to look or watch that fight.They are the ones would be dictating on when it would

happen and when the said date is approaching then hypes and other events might happen to increase more the interest which simply means that its more money or revenue to them.

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Self isolation is only around 10 days so why they touted the month of October in the media is a mystery. I am not sure what Fury will gain from delaying the fight. Wilder seems to want it much more than Fury but I do not see it as an excuse on part of Fury for further delays. Maybe they hyped this in the media to gather more publicity and never planned for a long delay.

What are the chances the Fury-Wilder trilogy will not go ahead this year? Let us say for example a week before the re-scheduled fight Wilder tests positive for COVID-19 or say Fury tests positive again, it would mean more uncertainty on the merry-go-round of misfortune of the fighters.

I'm sure it will happen this year. I think it technically has to happen before September 15th due to the arbitration:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/0/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-fight-when-postponed-covid-2021/

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The fight was set to take place on Saturday, July 24. It is now expected to be postponed until October 9, although that may require an amended ruling from the arbitration judge Daniel Weinstein who had deemed that the third fight between the two heavyweights must take place before September 15.

But of course you can't do anything about illness. Covid shouldn't take more than a month to self-isolate especially when I don't think Fury has it but just people within his camp, but something tells me they might just be using it as an excuse to postpone it for whatever reasons.
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What are the chances the Fury-Wilder trilogy will not go ahead this year? Let us say for example a week before the re-scheduled fight Wilder tests positive for COVID-19 or say Fury tests positive again, it would mean more uncertainty on the merry-go-round of misfortune of the fighters.

I'm sure it will happen this year. I think it technically has to happen before September 15th due to the arbitration:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/0/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-fight-when-postponed-covid-2021/

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The fight was set to take place on Saturday, July 24. It is now expected to be postponed until October 9, although that may require an amended ruling from the arbitration judge Daniel Weinstein who had deemed that the third fight between the two heavyweights must take place before September 15.

But of course you can't do anything about illness. Covid shouldn't take more than a month to self-isolate especially when I don't think Fury has it but just people within his camp, but something tells me they might just be using it as an excuse to postpone it for whatever reasons.
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$100M personal purse for each fighter is no joke and this is why they would really be ensuring that they could reach it up, if there are some bit changes or alterations then
they might still consider it.

That's why they keep postponing it, they want this fight as the biggest and since it's a heavy weight match, it could easily gain the attention of the fans to watch the fight. Also, we have to believe that it's not on the only fight, we might see a rematch or a trilogy and both fighters if they will not get injured heavily will enjoy a good retirement fund.
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Even if it takes say 10 days of self-isolation to be clear of COVID-19 the fighter, promoters and trainers will still need time to prepare for the fight. I also thought postponing the fight to October was somewhat unnecessary.

Waiting until October seems like an excessively long time but they are doing it to avoid other big sports events. The Pacquiao vs. Spence fight is next month and in September there is a Canelo fight. I hope this is the final postponement and it won't turn out like Lopez vs. Kambosos where it seems like every week they are changing the date and moving it further into the future.

Pushing it until October might do good in the long run, more people getting vaccinated and possible to watch the fight live, and I do think that the hype is still there, whether in US or in England. Although it might be a burden for the boxer themselves as they will have to wait before they kick each other asses.

And this involves big money, so it's better that everyone not to rush things right now.

They can wait longer as long as they'll make big money, as previously reported, they will both make $100 million as individual purse and that money is not a joke so promoter has to ensure they'll make more than what they give and make this fight written in the history.
Its just dumb that they would be setting up things when they dont really get some  revenue or profits so its just normal that they would really be ensuring that they could really make some bucks

and as if the fans does have some options or choice? No, it would really be still depending on them in the end of the day fans would just wait on when for this fight to happen.

$100M personal purse for each fighter is no joke and this is why they would really be ensuring that they could reach it up, if there are some bit changes or alterations then
they might still consider it.
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Even if it takes say 10 days of self-isolation to be clear of COVID-19 the fighter, promoters and trainers will still need time to prepare for the fight. I also thought postponing the fight to October was somewhat unnecessary.

Waiting until October seems like an excessively long time but they are doing it to avoid other big sports events. The Pacquiao vs. Spence fight is next month and in September there is a Canelo fight. I hope this is the final postponement and it won't turn out like Lopez vs. Kambosos where it seems like every week they are changing the date and moving it further into the future.

Pushing it until October might do good in the long run, more people getting vaccinated and possible to watch the fight live, and I do think that the hype is still there, whether in US or in England. Although it might be a burden for the boxer themselves as they will have to wait before they kick each other asses.

And this involves big money, so it's better that everyone not to rush things right now.

They can wait longer as long as they'll make big money, as previously reported, they will both make $100 million as individual purse and that money is not a joke so promoter has to ensure they'll make more than what they give and make this fight written in the history.
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